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Thread: Scaled G25 Model with 4 PCA "extremes" European references +1 central reference.

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    Scaled G25 Model with 4 PCA "extremes" European references +1 central reference.

    Just for curiosity, I take the 4 most "extreme" average references (PCA are individuals but I prefer to use averages) and the central reference just in the intersection of these 4 references.

    Just 5 references so I think results would be ok without penalization.

    Lithuanian reference is the average made with the 6 Lithuanian references from the official datasheet (without the 7th Lithuanian reference "Lithuanian Askenazi"), the others are also from the official datasheet (modern pop averages).

    The PCA to see more graphically all that I have commented before:
     


    Scaled

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    Karelian,0.1273094,0.0768108,0.093286,0.0808381,0.0275575,0.0224719,0.0102478,0.0152161,0.0017601,-0.0294117,0.0052308,-0.0110312,0.0189294,0.0089496,-0.00445,0.0013259,-0.0023746,-0.0014089,-0.0018435,0.0037822,0.0064659,-0.0009743,0.001154,0.0006975,0.0038138
    Sardinian,0.1216872,0.1672855,0.0284897,-0.0506523,0.060151,-0.0221337,-0.0039523,0.0024964,0.0415743,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.0166487,-0.0286645,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.0030013,0.0114027,-0.0013475,0.0016798,-0.0129947,-0.0021212,-0.0011018,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.0003375
    Lithuanian,0.13516963,0.12524867,0.08417018,0.08123988,0.04374018,0.03101262,0.010828,0.01589157,-0.00314197,-0.0316931,-0.00396702,-0.01180452,0.0215508,0.02931878,-0.01136437,0.0003735,0.00307597,-0.00042763,0.00288953,0.00288108,-0.00413288,-0.00542007,0.00841787,-0.0077303,0.00010223
    Greek_Kos,0.1076261,0.1464618,-0.0220407,-0.0538692,0.0041031,-0.018252,0.0008617,-0.0036921,-0.0059994,0.0167861,0.0026524,0.0031472,-0.0039148,0.0009634,-0.0106012,0.0029906,0.0100107,0.0009432,0.0037151,-0.0036407,-0.0038128,0.0016762,-0.0001778,-0.0014059,-0.0021157
    French_Nord,0.1282752,0.1405432,0.0513571,0.0256051,0.0382728,0.0088906,0.0010967,0.0044194,0.008373,0.0120166,-0.003484,0.0040328,-0.0108613,-0.0081823,0.0111991,0.0025432,-0.0046069,0.0022266,0.0040947,0.0010308,0.0021327,0.0015249,-0.0015724,0.0074707,1.45e-05

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    United States of America Canada Quebec Acadia Denmark Switzerland England
    Target: b
    Distance: 2.9382% / 0.02938247
    88.6 French_Nord
    11.4 Lithuanian


    Distance to: b
    0.03172550 French_Nord
    0.09723719 Lithuanian
    0.10956344 Karelian
    0.14242461 Greek_Kos
    0.14365567 Sardinian

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    United States of America Germany England France Scotland Ireland
    Me:

    Distance: 2.084%

    French_Nord: 90.8%
    Sardinian: 4.7%
    Karelian: 4.5%

    Dad:

    Distance: 3.360%

    French_Nord: 73.3%
    Karelian: 16.8%
    Sardinian: 5.6%
    Greek_Kos: 4.3%

    Mom:

    Distance: 2.179%

    French_Nord: 91.8%
    Lithuanian: 8.2%

    Wife:

    Distance: 1.652%

    French_Nord: 94.9%
    Karelian: 5.1%

    Father in law:

    Distance: 3.515%

    French_Nord: 86.5%
    Karelian: 13.5%

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    Distance to: pelop_scaled
    0.05570607 Greek_Kos
    0.08214672 French_Nord
    0.10867562 Sardinian
    0.15518622 Lithuanian
    0.16400342 Karelian

    Target: pelop_scaled
    Distance: 2.5662% / 0.02566156
    63.8 Greek_Kos
    12.4 Sardinian
    11.4 Lithuanian
    9.2 Karelian
    3.2 French_Nord

    I got all 5

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    Target: JMcB_scaled
    Distance: 2.2453% / 0.02245313

    88.0 French_Nord
    8.6 Karelian
    3.4 Lithuanian
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Another neat one
    Target: cvolt_scaled
    Distance: 2.7623% / 0.02762295
    80.4 French_Nord
    19.6 Karelian

    Target: cvoltsdad_scaled
    Distance: 1.8598% / 0.01859822
    73.2 French_Nord
    15.8 Lithuanian
    11.0 Karelian

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    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.1971% / 0.03197121
    76.8 French_Nord
    22.8 Karelian
    0.4 Sardinian
    Wife:
    Target: Swedish1_scaled
    Distance: 3.6226% / 0.03622619
    58.8 French_Nord
    25.2 Karelian
    16.0 Lithuanian
    Mother:
    Target:Swedish2_scaled
    Distance: 3.7291% / 0.03729144
    51.0 French_Nord
    25.6 Lithuanian
    23.4 Karelian
    Father : Italo-Saami/Swede Mix:
    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.6070% / 0.02606977
    34.2 French_Nord
    33.8 Karelian
    19.2 Greek_Kos
    12.8 Sardinian
    Hidden Content

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 1.7288% / 0.01728791 | R3P
    51.6 VK2020_IRL_Eyrephort_VA = Germanic
    37.4 Levant_LBN_MA_o6 = South Euro
    11.0 RUS_Chalmny-Varre = Saami

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    I like this model for its PCA-like quality. If you take Kos as the reference point, my family plots north and west of that average, just like this calculator shows.

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.2811% / 0.02281077
    82.8 Greek_Kos
    9.0 Lithuanian
    8.2 Sardinian

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):GS_Dad(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos)
    Distance: 2.3614% / 0.02361365
    81.0 Greek_Kos
    10.6 Lithuanian
    8.4 Sardinian

    Target: GS_family(Fourni/Ikaria/Samos):YiaYia(Fourni/Ikaria)
    Distance: 2.0360% / 0.02035959
    79.8 Greek_Kos
    11.4 Sardinian
    8.0 Lithuanian
    0.8 Karelian

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    Distance: 4.0280% / 0.04027982
    81.8 French_Nord
    18.2 Karelian

    Target: OwenDad_scaled
    Distance: 4.6332% / 0.04633180
    84.2 French_Nord
    15.8 Karelian

    Target: OwenMom_scaled
    Distance: 4.0677% / 0.04067713
    83.4 French_Nord
    16.6 Karelian

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    My Greek friend and his family

    Up to this post, my friend has the tightest fit in the thread
    Target: Chris_scaled
    Distance: 1.6355% / 0.01635511
    77.8 Greek_Kos
    9.2 French_Nord
    9.2 Lithuanian
    3.8 Sardinian


    Target: ChrisMom_scaled
    Distance: 2.8336% / 0.02833558
    88.4 Greek_Kos
    4.6 Lithuanian
    3.6 Karelian
    3.4 French_Nord

    Target: Chris_nonbio_grandpa_scaled
    Distance: 3.0682% / 0.03068217
    55.2 Greek_Kos
    15.2 Sardinian
    15.0 Lithuanian
    14.6 French_Nord

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