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    Thank you, I will hide her face and I will post here later.
    Another person told me I'm unable to find who is my greatgrandpa because even my mother don't know nothing about him. I can trace all my ancestors on my fathers' branch until 1800, and more if I research on churchs in Europe. My mother's ancestors too, I don't have only her grandpa branch. It's very sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caesarsalad View Post
    Thank you, I will hide her face and I will post here later.
    Another person told me I'm unable to find who is my greatgrandpa because even my mother don't know nothing about him. I can trace all my ancestors on my fathers' branch until 1800, and more if I research on churchs in Europe. My mother's ancestors too, I don't have only her grandpa branch. It's very sad.
    It is theoretically possible with segment matching, clustering, and such tools on Gedmatch if you are lucky enough to have other relatives posted there, too. It would require some pretty good sleuthing.

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    This is something that can only be solved through segment sharing of relative matches, not ethnicity estimates. That being said, on most calcs I tried, the best fits come roughly as 75% Northern Italian + 25% Southern Italian.

    If you are really interested in working it out, you need to test your mum at the big 2 companies (AncestryDNA and 23andMe), for all their relative matches. Maybe their ethnicity estimates can offer some insight, but relative matches are the most important.
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    I worked it this week, but I don't find so much information. Thank you you all. I'm very excited with new information you provide me. I will try it late today. Ancestry and 23andMe don't ship to Brazil, but I have Italian Citzenship and my cousin lives there, so he can buy a kit to me, but I really hate to ask such things because he works alot and he hasn't much free time. I have a question: MyHeritage tell my mother she has got Portuguese from Castelo Branco ancestry, I found a relative match using 'Iberian' filter. They match a 16 cM the largest segment and a small one. He lives in Brazil and share the same city where her mom born. I asked him where were his Iberian ancestors came from, he told me his grandpatents from his mom side were from Castelo Branco! Oleiros, Minho... His father's side are all Italian from Veneto. I don't known if Myheritage can comite mistakes, because there some information that no match (I asked him, I am waiting). His grandparents registries inform they arrived in Brazil in 1940's (and my mom's mother was born in 1933). My guess is his greatgrandfather was my greatgrandpa (he is of my age) or one of his grandparents had a brother that was my great-grandfather (I asked him if they arrived in Brazil before 1933 (when my grandma was born) I was waiting). I also think 16 cM is too much small to share an common grandpa/great-grandpa/ granduncle/ great-granduncle. But I don't known . And there is another problem: MyHeritage traces a timeline of this genetic group from Castelo Branco starting from 1600's and around 1800's this group appeared in Veneto! and them around 1900's disapeared from Italy and grew up in Brazil. Confuse, no? Also he is my mom's distant 3rd cousin.
    WOW 75% North Italian and 25% south Italian fits very well because were she lived (Fernandopolis-Brazil) there were lots of Italians. I am very interested in work it. I fell like I lost a piece of mime. It's very sad don't known my greatgrandpa. I only can imagine how my grandma suffered living without know her own father.
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    His portuguese family arrived in Brazil in 1950's. So, maybe another unknown common ancestor.

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    I contacted a 3rd-5th cousin (the first French ome above)of her and she said he is Native French. I don't know if it can help me...

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    According to my aunt, my greatgrandpa was son of a French woman and a Turksh/Syrian man. So, he was mixed race. He was described as a blonde/light brown haired man with blue eyes. Here a problem: his 'wife' had mediun brown hair and green eyes, but my grandma had mediun brown hair and brown eyes. I think it's is very rare. I don't know if 1/8 Syrian/Turkish can escape Gedmatch's 'eyes'.

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    I'm seeking a company that works with hair roots. I have my grandma hair roots, but I don't known if they can extract a raw data from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caesarsalad View Post
    I'm seeking a company that works with hair roots. I have my grandma hair roots, but I don't known if they can extract a raw data from it.
    Sorry a bit of a side note, from what I was reading one time, Brazilians used to call any immigrant coming from the Ottoman Empire "Syrians, Lebanese" - 'Turcos'.

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