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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    Yep,i think the Levant among the Greco-Roman world is connected with Imperial Rome situations.But there is a second option...that of Phoenicians or Jews.Hellenistic times as well when Jews started to moving out from the Levant.

    As for Pontic Greeks.They are mostly a combination of a south caucasus population(colchian/kartvelian) and bronze age anatolian group.Bronze Age anatolia lacks steppe DNA..as south caucasians do!!!!


    Target: Greek_Trabzon
    Distance: 0.9563% / 0.00956343
    40.2 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    38.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    10.4 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    7.8 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    2.8 RUS_Catacomb



    Target: Greek_Trabzon
    Distance: 1.1125% / 0.01112519
    43.4 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    40.0 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    7.0 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    6.6 Levant_Abel_IA
    3.0 RUS_Catacomb
    But you just said that some Pontic Greeks score a good amount of BA Greek-admixture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovefex View Post
    But you just said that some Pontic Greeks score a good amount of BA Greek-admixture?
    Individually yes.These are averages!


    Target: MarcusUncle_scaled
    Distance: 2.1021% / 0.02102080
    43.2 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    22.0 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    16.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    16.2 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    2.0 RUS_Catacomb

    Target: PonticGreek:13BA60
    Distance: 1.7743% / 0.01774265
    48.8 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    18.2 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    17.4 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    15.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA


    Target: Ioannis_scaled
    Distance: 2.5697% / 0.02569715
    34.0 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    29.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    19.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    16.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    Individually yes.These are averages!


    Target: MarcusUncle_scaled
    Distance: 2.1021% / 0.02102080
    43.2 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    22.0 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    16.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    16.2 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    2.0 RUS_Catacomb

    Target: PonticGreek:13BA60
    Distance: 1.7743% / 0.01774265
    48.8 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    18.2 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    17.4 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    15.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA


    Target: Ioannis_scaled
    Distance: 2.5697% / 0.02569715
    34.0 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    29.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    19.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    16.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    But some individuals lack bronze age Greek admixture and they score mostly Anatolian like:




    Target: Theodora_scaled
    Distance: 1.9631% / 0.01963111
    58.6 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    31.8 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    9.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA

    Target: AS_scaled
    Distance: 2.1615% / 0.02161521
    58.6 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    32.0 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    8.6 RUS_Catacomb
    0.8 Levant_Megiddo_IA

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    Those G25 Greek_Trabzon are from a dubious source, not representative, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    Individually yes.These are averages!


    Target: MarcusUncle_scaled
    Distance: 2.1021% / 0.02102080
    43.2 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    22.0 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    16.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    16.2 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    2.0 RUS_Catacomb

    Target: PonticGreek:13BA60
    Distance: 1.7743% / 0.01774265
    48.8 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    18.2 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    17.4 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    15.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA


    Target: Ioannis_scaled
    Distance: 2.5697% / 0.02569715
    34.0 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
    29.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    19.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    16.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    Do those also score Steppe when you remove the Empuries2?

    EDIT: By the way, would you how to model the Balkanic impact on modern Greeks?

    Quote Originally Posted by dosas View Post
    Those G25 Greek_Trabzon are from a dubious source, not representative, in my opinion.
    I see. Are there any other samples that are not representative, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovefex View Post
    Do those also score Steppe when you remove the Empuries2?

    EDIT: By the way, would you how to model the Balkanic impact on modern Greeks?



    I see. Are there any other samples that are not representative, then?
    Empuries2 contains steppe admixture.Catacomb is to estimate something extra/adittional

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    Empuries2 contains steppe admixture.Catacomb is to estimate something extra/adittional
    Yes, but does Catacomb increase when you remove Empuries2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovefex View Post
    Yes, but does Catacomb increase when you remove Empuries2?
    In some people might do it,but in general do not expect high steppe expectations.Its western Pontus and other parts of Anatolia that steppe is higher.R1b(yamanya like clades) are somewhere 7% in Trabzon/EasternBlackSea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    In some people might do it,but in general do not expect high steppe expectations.Its western Pontus and other parts of Anatolia that steppe is higher.R1b(yamanya like clades) are somewhere 7% in Trabzon/EasternBlackSea.
    Is that high, low or average for a group that scores little Steppe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovefex View Post
    Is that high, low or average for a group that scores little Steppe?
    I don't know and i don't really care tbh.I am more focused in the Levant DNA in the blacksea area.That is the mystery and not some steppe IMO.

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