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    a recent paper recently revealed that the near east reached italy before the africans reached the near east; hence we learn that the source in italy is old near east and not modern near east

     


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    GENO2.0 51SEURO 19WCEURO 13SCANDINAVIA 5ASIAMINOR 4EEURO 4GB/IRELAND 3ARABIA myOrigins 26ITA.PENINSULA 13GREECE&BALKANS 12SARDINIA 18GREATBRITAIN 14IRELAND 10CEN.EUROPE 8SCANDINAVIA DNA.Land 49NWEURO 27SEURO 13MED.ISLANDER 11SARDINIAN myHeritage 51.8NWEURO 33.2ITALIAN 7.9GREEK/S.ITALY 7.1BALKAN gencove 29NITALY 19EMED 15NBRITISLES 12SWEURO 10NCEURO 9SCANDINAVIA 6NEEURO GenePlaza 54.4NWEURO 37.6GREEK/ALBANIAN 5.6WASIAN 2.4SWASIA LivingDNA 70.7SGERMANIC 16.3TUSCANY 9.2N.ITALY 3.8SARDINIA

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    I don't know about Gulf-Arab ancestry but the 2% Coloured or Baster you get on one kit has me scratching my head:


    Target: Jacob12086_scaled
    Distance: 1.0067% / 0.01006731 | R3P
    54.6 German
    43.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    2.0 South_African_Coloured_NC

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaYamamoto View Post
    I don't know about Gulf-Arab ancestry but the 2% Coloured or Baster you get on one kit has me scratching my head:


    Target: Jacob12086_scaled
    Distance: 1.0067% / 0.01006731 | R3P
    54.6 German
    43.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    2.0 South_African_Coloured_NC
    I don't understand it either! It is very strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexfritz View Post
    a recent paper recently revealed that the near east reached italy before the africans reached the near east; hence we learn that the source in italy is old near east and not modern near east

     


    quantified in the supp.
    That is crazy! So the modern Mid-East has a greater African component?

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    Sokoski your EV13 lineage is coming from your Italian/Sicilian part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny ola View Post
    Sokoski your EV13 lineage is coming from your Italian/Sicilian part?
    No my dad, who is Polish/Provencestral/Balkan and some other stuff. My mom is Italian (Calabria), North African/Levantine and half Swedish; my maternal line is J2 These coordinates are taken from Ancestry DNA which seems to give alot of NW European when it isn't there. Use the Unscaled if you look into it.

    Where is EV13 from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoski View Post
    My mom is Italian (Calabria), North African/Levantine and half Swedish
    Have you tested your mother on any commercial website? Your admixture run certainly doesn't indicate such ancestry, so it would be interesting to see how a commercial test estimated you VS a G25 model. Even then, relative matches are far more useful than all of these for working out your family tree & ancestry.
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    23abc_AncestryDNA_scaled,0.110408,0.151314,-0.0290383,-0.0507112,0.0018465,-0.0156179,-0.00305514,-0.00138456,-0.00899905,0.00911181,0.00243583,-0.00149867,-0.00431116,0.00344057,-0.00773606,0.00106072,0.00195576,0.00152026,0.00251396,-0.00550264,-0.00786113,-0.00197844,0.0025882,0.00168699,0.000957998

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23abc View Post
    Have you tested your mother on any commercial website? Your admixture run certainly doesn't indicate such ancestry, so it would be interesting to see how a commercial test estimated you VS a G25 model. Even then, relative matches are far more useful than all of these for working out your family tree & ancestry.
    Yeah I have that's where I got her reported dna from. I wonder if I forgot to put in the wrong kit? When I got G25 I put in my grandmothers on one of them but didn't keep track, so I may have uploaded the wrong kit. I had a run that came out like this:

    Target: Jacob12086
    Distance: 1.3429% / 0.01342944
    42.4 Shetlandic
    14.4 Maltese
    10.4 Portuguese
    8.4 Lithuanian_RA
    7.8 Turkish_Rumeli
    7.4 Cossack_Kuban
    2.6 Basque_Spanish
    1.6 Greenlander_East
    1.6 Nivkh
    1.4 Pulliyar
    0.8 Biaka
    0.6 Ju_hoan_North
    0.6 Mbuti

    Which seems much more likely if you replace the Turkish with North African/Arab

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoski View Post
    No my dad, who is Polish/Provencestral/Balkan and some other stuff. My mom is Italian (Calabria), North African/Levantine and half Swedish; my maternal line is J2 These coordinates are taken from Ancestry DNA which seems to give alot of NW European when it isn't there. Use the Unscaled if you look into it.

    Where is EV13 from?
    Dmn dude you are so mixed xDDD

    EV13 is a European marker.If its coming from your Polish ancestors then i suspect some balkan/Vlach related admixture.. not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoski View Post
    Yeah I have that's where I got her reported dna from. I wonder if I forgot to put in the wrong kit? When I got G25 I put in my grandmothers on one of them but didn't keep track, so I may have uploaded the wrong kit. I had a run that came out like this:

    Target: Jacob12086
    Distance: 1.3429% / 0.01342944
    42.4 Shetlandic
    14.4 Maltese
    10.4 Portuguese
    8.4 Lithuanian_RA
    7.8 Turkish_Rumeli
    7.4 Cossack_Kuban
    2.6 Basque_Spanish
    1.6 Greenlander_East
    1.6 Nivkh
    1.4 Pulliyar
    0.8 Biaka
    0.6 Ju_hoan_North
    0.6 Mbuti

    Which seems much more likely if you replace the Turkish with North African/Arab
    Turkish_Rumeli is not related to North African/Arabs at all, they are Turks of mostly Balkan origin...
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    23abc_AncestryDNA_scaled,0.110408,0.151314,-0.0290383,-0.0507112,0.0018465,-0.0156179,-0.00305514,-0.00138456,-0.00899905,0.00911181,0.00243583,-0.00149867,-0.00431116,0.00344057,-0.00773606,0.00106072,0.00195576,0.00152026,0.00251396,-0.00550264,-0.00786113,-0.00197844,0.0025882,0.00168699,0.000957998

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