J-L26 in South Asia

[Kirtan24]

So I have been digging a bit into my paternal haplogroup and a few months ago, I found out through Morley DNA-Predictor that it is J-L26 (I shall be eternally grateful to aaronbee2010 for his help, as I myself was completely and embarrassingly clueless about the whole thing).

I put the matter to rest assuming that it was passed down by an IVC-ancestor, as it is found in many South Asians with Iran_N rich ancestry. I have read that it originated in the fertile crescent and was most probably brought to SA by Iranian agriculturists. (Users midichlorian and MuslimPatel123 also belong to this haplogroup, if I am correctly informed.)

So far so good. However, I uploaded my raw data to the Yseq clade finder today and my subclade came out to be J-Y8344.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y8344/

There are not many people under this branch on the YTree and most of them seem to be Europeans.

I would be very thankful for any ideas/inputs. How reliable is the clade finder? Could it be that this particular clade is related to the Indo-Aryans, considering the lack of West Asian samples under J-Y8344? Or is it just undersampling?

I am really a novice when it comes to haplogroups, so any help would be appreciated.

[subzero85]

I’m J-L26 but in a different clade than you.

I’m under J-PF5169.

J2 haplogroups can have complex distributions geographically relating to men migrating from the Iranian plateau to Europe, India, and the Middle East.

[Jatt1]

So I have been digging a bit into my paternal haplogroup and a few months ago, I found out through Morley DNA-Predictor that it is J-L26 (I shall be eternally grateful to aaronbee2010 for his help, as I myself was completely and embarrassingly clueless about the whole thing).

I put the matter to rest assuming that it was passed down by an IVC-ancestor, as it is found in many South Asians with Iran_N rich ancestry. I have read that it originated in the fertile crescent and was most probably brought to SA by Iranian agriculturists. (Users midichlorian and MuslimPatel123 also belong to this haplogroup, if I am correctly informed.)

So far so good. However, I uploaded my raw data to the Yseq clade finder today and my subclade came out to be J-Y8344.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y8344/

There are not many people under this branch on the YTree and most of them seem to be Europeans.

I would be very thankful for any ideas/inputs. How reliable is the clade finder? Could it be that this particular clade is related to the Indo-Aryans, considering the lack of West Asian samples under J-Y8344? Or is it just undersampling?

I am really a novice when it comes to haplogroups, so any help would be appreciated.

What test did you take? IA or not it certainly looks like a European branch.

[AlluGobi]

If I were you, I'd order J-Y8344, J-Y130538 and J-Y8362 from YSEQ, and see which one you fall in to. You can also contact them before you do and see if they can give you a batch discount, as they did with me. But yeah, this looks a IA branch at the very least.

I am more novice than you so if this doesn't make sense, ignore!

[Biharguy]

The clade finder is reliable. I have had multiple users test on it and it has been consistant after they fully analyzed their Y-Haplogroup.

Yes try one of YSEQ SNP J2 packs. Or the J2 Superclade Panel.

[MuslimPatel123]

I'm under J-PF5197 according to Yseq clade finder.

[Reza]

My father in law is also J-L26 on 23andme.

On the clade finder, he comes up as J-PF5197 which is the same as MuslimPatel123 and 3 clades upstream of subzero85's J-PF5197> PF5172 > Z7314 > PF5169. There seems to be a downstream branch for all the above J-Z7429 which has alot of South Asians on it.

All the above are downstream of J-PF5160 whereas Kirtan24, yours is downstream of a sister branch J-PF5116

[Kirtan24]

What test did you take? IA or not it certainly looks like a European branch.

I used the the Yseq clade finder.

[Kirtan24]

The clade finder is reliable. I have had multiple users test on it and it has been consistant after they fully analyzed their Y-Haplogroup.

Yes try one of YSEQ SNP J2 packs. Or the J2 Superclade Panel.

Yes, I'll most probably go for the J2 superclade panel as soon as I am back in Germany. Quite intrigued, to be honest.

[Kirtan24]

My father in law is also J-L26 on 23andme.

On the clade finder, he comes up as J-PF5197 which is the same as MuslimPatel123 and 3 clades upstream of subzero85's J-PF5197> PF5172 > Z7314 > PF5169. There seems to be a downstream branch for all the above J-Z7429 which has alot of South Asians on it.

All the above are downstream of J-PF5160 whereas Kirtan24, yours is downstream of a sister branch J-PF5116

Indeed, the sister branch J-PF5116 seems to be quite diverse with samples ranging from Arabian, West Asian, Mediterranean, European and even a few South Asian ones.
But J-Y8344 looks exclusively European.