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    Half venitian half french

    The results of my friend, whose father is Venetian and whose mother is French, with in bonus the results of the brother of his paternal grandmother (mainly Venetian but of whom a great-grandmother has the last name "Rudolf" , who could be Austrian or "Austro-Hungarian", since her son was baptized in Hungary).

    First of all, here are the places where my friend's French and Venetians ancestors come from (having helped him in his Venetian and French genealogy, I know the places, since I have his family tree available):

    Venetian part:


    French part, in the non-basque area of SouthWestern:



    Myheritage results; i don't know his haplogroup:


    Friend
    1 North_Atlantic 38.5
    2 West_Med 24.73
    3 East_Med 16.17
    4 Baltic 12.93
    5 West_Asian 5.91
    6 Red_Sea 0.91
    7 Amerindian 0.39
    8 Siberian 0.35
    9 South_Asian 0.05
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Cataluna 4.78
    2 Portuguese 5.16
    3 Spanish_Valencia 5.45
    4 Spanish_Murcia 5.78
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 5.94
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.31
    7 Spanish_Andalucia 6.6
    8 Spanish_Galicia 6.62
    9 North_Italian 7.03
    10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.11
    11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.32
    12 French 9
    13 Spanish_Aragon 9.48
    14 Southwest_French 9.7
    15 Tuscan 13.13
    16 West_German 14.59
    17 South_Dutch 14.82
    18 Romanian 18.12
    19 Serbian 18.35
    20 Austrian 18.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
    2 82.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.31
    3 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.9% Central_Greek @ 2.32
    4 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% North_Italian @ 2.45
    5 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
    6 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Assyrian @ 2.51
    7 76.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
    8 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Armenian @ 2.56
    9 90.9% Spanish_Valencia + 9.1% Lezgin @ 2.61
    10 85.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
    11 86.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.6% South_Italian @ 2.62
    12 79% Spanish_Valencia + 21% Romanian @ 2.65
    13 92.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.66
    14 92.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.67
    15 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Cyprian @ 2.67
    16 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
    17 87.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.68
    18 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Turkish @ 2.69
    19 90.8% Spanish_Valencia + 9.2% Tabassaran @ 2.71
    20 83.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 2.72


    K15
    1 North_Atlantic 38.5
    2 West_Med 24.73
    3 East_Med 16.17
    4 Baltic 12.93
    5 West_Asian 5.91
    6 Red_Sea 0.91
    7 Amerindian 0.39
    8 Siberian 0.35
    9 South_Asian 0.05
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Cataluna 4.78
    2 Portuguese 5.16
    3 Spanish_Valencia 5.45
    4 Spanish_Murcia 5.78
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 5.94
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.31
    7 Spanish_Andalucia 6.6
    8 Spanish_Galicia 6.62
    9 North_Italian 7.03
    10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.11
    11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.32
    12 French 9
    13 Spanish_Aragon 9.48
    14 Southwest_French 9.7
    15 Tuscan 13.13
    16 West_German 14.59
    17 South_Dutch 14.82
    18 Romanian 18.12
    19 Serbian 18.35
    20 Austrian 18.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
    2 82.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.31
    3 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.9% Central_Greek @ 2.32
    4 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% North_Italian @ 2.45
    5 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
    6 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Assyrian @ 2.51
    7 76.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
    8 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Armenian @ 2.56
    9 90.9% Spanish_Valencia + 9.1% Lezgin @ 2.61
    10 85.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
    11 86.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.6% South_Italian @ 2.62
    12 79% Spanish_Valencia + 21% Romanian @ 2.65
    13 92.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.66
    14 92.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.67
    15 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Cyprian @ 2.67
    16 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
    17 87.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.68
    18 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Turkish @ 2.69
    19 90.8% Spanish_Valencia + 9.2% Tabassaran @ 2.71
    20 83.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 2.72


    Brother of his paternal grandmother
    1 North_Atlantic 31.41
    2 West_Med 23.71
    3 Baltic 18.61
    4 East_Med 18.32
    5 West_Asian 5.33
    6 Red_Sea 1.38
    7 South_Asian 0.72
    8 Oceanian 0.24
    9 East_Asian 0.22
    10 Siberian 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_Italian 6.57
    2 Portuguese 10.49
    3 Tuscan 10.82
    4 Spanish_Galicia 11.25
    5 Romanian 11.32
    6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.65
    7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.66
    8 Serbian 11.97
    9 Spanish_Valencia 12.02
    10 Spanish_Murcia 12.41
    11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.44
    12 Bulgarian 12.51
    13 French 12.59
    14 Spanish_Andalucia 13.04
    15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.83
    16 Greek_Thessaly 14.14
    17 Spanish_Cantabria 14.36
    18 Southwest_French 15.04
    19 West_German 15.91
    20 Austrian 16.43

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.1% North_Italian + 15.9% Belorussian @ 2.01
    2 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
    3 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Lithuanian @ 2.03
    4 81.3% North_Italian + 18.7% Ukrainian @ 2.15
    5 80.7% North_Italian + 19.3% South_Polish @ 2.22
    6 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.24
    7 82.6% North_Italian + 17.4% Polish @ 2.24
    8 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Estonian @ 2.25
    9 51% Spanish_Valencia + 49% Bulgarian @ 2.26
    10 83.5% North_Italian + 16.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.27
    11 76.2% North_Italian + 23.8% Croatian @ 2.46
    12 83.8% North_Italian + 16.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
    13 81% North_Italian + 19% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.5
    14 85.2% North_Italian + 14.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.66
    15 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% East_Finnish @ 2.68
    16 85.5% North_Italian + 14.5% Finnish @ 2.7
    17 51.6% Romanian + 48.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.75
    18 73.7% North_Italian + 26.3% Hungarian @ 2.77
    19 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Erzya @ 2.83
    20 57.1% Bulgarian + 42.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87


    1 Atlantic 23.2
    2 West_Med 19.41
    3 North_Sea 17.86
    4 East_Med 15.73
    5 Baltic 10.45
    6 Eastern_Euro 6.48
    7 West_Asian 5.19
    8 Red_Sea 1.33
    9 South_Asian 0.24
    10 Oceanian 0.11

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_Italian 4.91
    2 Portuguese 9.08
    3 Tuscan 9.14
    4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.29
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.64
    6 Spanish_Murcia 9.7
    7 Spanish_Galicia 9.78
    8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.11
    9 Spanish_Andalucia 10.53
    10 Spanish_Valencia 10.63
    11 Serbian 11.75
    12 Romanian 12.06
    13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.16
    14 Bulgarian 12.24
    15 French 12.67
    16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.86
    17 Southwest_French 13.24
    18 Greek_Thessaly 13.65
    19 Spanish_Aragon 13.7
    20 Greek 13.93

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.7% North_Italian + 11.3% Lithuanian @ 2.41
    2 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Belorussian @ 2.41
    3 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.47
    4 88% North_Italian + 12% Estonian @ 2.48
    5 86.2% North_Italian + 13.8% Polish @ 2.48
    6 87.4% North_Italian + 12.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.54
    7 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.55
    8 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% South_Polish @ 2.59
    9 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian @ 2.6
    10 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.66
    11 81.5% North_Italian + 18.5% Croatian @ 2.71
    12 78.5% North_Italian + 21.5% Austrian @ 2.72
    13 88.3% North_Italian + 11.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.73
    14 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.77
    15 80.6% North_Italian + 19.4% Hungarian @ 2.8
    16 89.3% North_Italian + 10.7% Erzya @ 2.83
    17 88.2% North_Italian + 11.8% East_Finnish @ 2.89
    18 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% Greek @ 2.91
    19 87.6% North_Italian + 12.4% Finnish @ 2.95
    20 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.97


    Global 25
    Veneto-French,0.126344,0.147252,0.038466,-0.002261,0.036314,0.003626,0.00141,0.004846,0.0118 62,0.027518,0.001461,0.005545,-0.015461,-0.01101,0.006515,0.000663,0.001825,0.003167,-0.000251,0.00025,0.001373,0.005317,-0.002095,0.002289,0

    Distance: 2,8842% / 0,02884229
    55,8 TUR_Barcin_N
    34,8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    9.4 WHG


    Target: Veneto-French
    Distance: 0.5451% / 0.00545060 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    32.2 French_Provence
    29.2 Italian_Veneto
    15.8 Spanish_Penedes
    13.0 French_Auvergne
    9.8 Spanish_Catalunya_Central


    Distance to: Veneto-French
    0.01878631 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP259
    0.01960634 French_Corsica:corsica11908
    0.02074217 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
    0.02094802 Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029
    0.02131071 French_Provence:S_20
    0.02153017 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
    0.02163346 Italian_Veneto:Alp100
    0.02174516 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
    0.02198616 Spanish_Girona:ROI027
    0.02203229 Italian_Veneto:Alp401
    0.02219078 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016
    0.02219082 Italian_Bergamo:HGDP01147
    0.02237647 French_Provence:provance2508
    0.02273407 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
    0.02285267 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
    0.02337597 Spanish_Penedes:GUS029
    0.02344284 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
    0.02377722 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta6
    0.02396850 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP395
    0.02413848 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
    0.02423570 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
    0.02429227 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
    0.02440781 French_Auvergne:C_3
    0.02450368 Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
    0.02463479 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625


    Uncle-Venetian2,0.130897,0.14319,0.030547,-0.001292,0.035083,0.001952,0.00376,0.007615,0.0110 44,0.020228,-0.00065,0.006744,-0.009217,0.001789,-0.003393,-0.007027,-0.008866,0.001394,0.002514,-0.006878,-0.000374,0.002102,-0.006779,-0.002651,0.003473

    Distance: 3,5292% / 0,03529183
    38,8 TUR_Barcin_N
    33,8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    18,4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    9,0 WHG

    Target: Uncle-Venetian2
    Distance: 0.9722% / 0.00972155 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    28.8 Italian_Veneto
    20.6 Romanian
    19.6 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    12.6 Italian_Northeast
    10.8 Italian_Bergamo
    4.4 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    3.2 Spanish_Mallorca


    Distance to: Uncle-Venetian2
    0.01695571 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
    0.01991500 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070
    0.02025082 Italian_Northeast:KF2700960
    0.02034239 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
    0.02048437 Italian_Veneto:ALP322
    0.02211597 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP420
    0.02307035 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
    0.02315409 Italian_Veneto:ALP249
    0.02337447 Italian_Veneto:Alp100
    0.02388044 Italian_Veneto:Alp401
    0.02434192 Italian_Northeast:ALP506
    0.02472023 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
    0.02515015 Italian_Northeast:ALP346
    0.02527553 French_Provence:S_20
    0.02528652 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP395
    0.02556221 Italian_Northeast:ALP280
    0.02653586 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont98
    0.02655102 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
    0.02666891 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP259
    0.02676964 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta18
    0.02702105 Italian_Veneto:ALP040
    0.02735342 Spanish_Mallorca:MST073
    0.02768505 Italian_Veneto:ALP022
    0.02771463 Italian_Bergamo:HGDP01153
    0.02822700 Italian_Veneto:KF1803109

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olymp View Post
    The results of my friend, whose father is Venetian and whose mother is French, with in bonus the results of the brother of his paternal grandmother (mainly Venetian but of whom a great-grandmother has the last name "Rudolf" , who could be Austrian or "Austro-Hungarian", since her son was baptized in Hungary).

    First of all, here are the places where my friend's French and Venetians ancestors come from (having helped him in his Venetian and French genealogy, I know the places, since I have his family tree available):

    Venetian part:


    French part, in the non-basque area of SouthWestern:



    Myheritage results; i don't know his haplogroup:


    Friend
    1 North_Atlantic 38.5
    2 West_Med 24.73
    3 East_Med 16.17
    4 Baltic 12.93
    5 West_Asian 5.91
    6 Red_Sea 0.91
    7 Amerindian 0.39
    8 Siberian 0.35
    9 South_Asian 0.05
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Cataluna 4.78
    2 Portuguese 5.16
    3 Spanish_Valencia 5.45
    4 Spanish_Murcia 5.78
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 5.94
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.31
    7 Spanish_Andalucia 6.6
    8 Spanish_Galicia 6.62
    9 North_Italian 7.03
    10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.11
    11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.32
    12 French 9
    13 Spanish_Aragon 9.48
    14 Southwest_French 9.7
    15 Tuscan 13.13
    16 West_German 14.59
    17 South_Dutch 14.82
    18 Romanian 18.12
    19 Serbian 18.35
    20 Austrian 18.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
    2 82.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.31
    3 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.9% Central_Greek @ 2.32
    4 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% North_Italian @ 2.45
    5 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
    6 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Assyrian @ 2.51
    7 76.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
    8 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Armenian @ 2.56
    9 90.9% Spanish_Valencia + 9.1% Lezgin @ 2.61
    10 85.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
    11 86.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.6% South_Italian @ 2.62
    12 79% Spanish_Valencia + 21% Romanian @ 2.65
    13 92.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.66
    14 92.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.67
    15 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Cyprian @ 2.67
    16 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
    17 87.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.68
    18 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Turkish @ 2.69
    19 90.8% Spanish_Valencia + 9.2% Tabassaran @ 2.71
    20 83.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 2.72


    K15
    1 North_Atlantic 38.5
    2 West_Med 24.73
    3 East_Med 16.17
    4 Baltic 12.93
    5 West_Asian 5.91
    6 Red_Sea 0.91
    7 Amerindian 0.39
    8 Siberian 0.35
    9 South_Asian 0.05
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Cataluna 4.78
    2 Portuguese 5.16
    3 Spanish_Valencia 5.45
    4 Spanish_Murcia 5.78
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 5.94
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.31
    7 Spanish_Andalucia 6.6
    8 Spanish_Galicia 6.62
    9 North_Italian 7.03
    10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.11
    11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.32
    12 French 9
    13 Spanish_Aragon 9.48
    14 Southwest_French 9.7
    15 Tuscan 13.13
    16 West_German 14.59
    17 South_Dutch 14.82
    18 Romanian 18.12
    19 Serbian 18.35
    20 Austrian 18.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
    2 82.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.31
    3 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.9% Central_Greek @ 2.32
    4 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% North_Italian @ 2.45
    5 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
    6 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Assyrian @ 2.51
    7 76.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
    8 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Armenian @ 2.56
    9 90.9% Spanish_Valencia + 9.1% Lezgin @ 2.61
    10 85.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
    11 86.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.6% South_Italian @ 2.62
    12 79% Spanish_Valencia + 21% Romanian @ 2.65
    13 92.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.66
    14 92.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.67
    15 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Cyprian @ 2.67
    16 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
    17 87.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.68
    18 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Turkish @ 2.69
    19 90.8% Spanish_Valencia + 9.2% Tabassaran @ 2.71
    20 83.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 2.72


    Brother of his paternal grandmother
    1 North_Atlantic 31.41
    2 West_Med 23.71
    3 Baltic 18.61
    4 East_Med 18.32
    5 West_Asian 5.33
    6 Red_Sea 1.38
    7 South_Asian 0.72
    8 Oceanian 0.24
    9 East_Asian 0.22
    10 Siberian 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_Italian 6.57
    2 Portuguese 10.49
    3 Tuscan 10.82
    4 Spanish_Galicia 11.25
    5 Romanian 11.32
    6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.65
    7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.66
    8 Serbian 11.97
    9 Spanish_Valencia 12.02
    10 Spanish_Murcia 12.41
    11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.44
    12 Bulgarian 12.51
    13 French 12.59
    14 Spanish_Andalucia 13.04
    15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.83
    16 Greek_Thessaly 14.14
    17 Spanish_Cantabria 14.36
    18 Southwest_French 15.04
    19 West_German 15.91
    20 Austrian 16.43

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.1% North_Italian + 15.9% Belorussian @ 2.01
    2 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
    3 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Lithuanian @ 2.03
    4 81.3% North_Italian + 18.7% Ukrainian @ 2.15
    5 80.7% North_Italian + 19.3% South_Polish @ 2.22
    6 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.24
    7 82.6% North_Italian + 17.4% Polish @ 2.24
    8 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Estonian @ 2.25
    9 51% Spanish_Valencia + 49% Bulgarian @ 2.26
    10 83.5% North_Italian + 16.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.27
    11 76.2% North_Italian + 23.8% Croatian @ 2.46
    12 83.8% North_Italian + 16.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
    13 81% North_Italian + 19% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.5
    14 85.2% North_Italian + 14.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.66
    15 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% East_Finnish @ 2.68
    16 85.5% North_Italian + 14.5% Finnish @ 2.7
    17 51.6% Romanian + 48.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.75
    18 73.7% North_Italian + 26.3% Hungarian @ 2.77
    19 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Erzya @ 2.83
    20 57.1% Bulgarian + 42.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87


    1 Atlantic 23.2
    2 West_Med 19.41
    3 North_Sea 17.86
    4 East_Med 15.73
    5 Baltic 10.45
    6 Eastern_Euro 6.48
    7 West_Asian 5.19
    8 Red_Sea 1.33
    9 South_Asian 0.24
    10 Oceanian 0.11

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_Italian 4.91
    2 Portuguese 9.08
    3 Tuscan 9.14
    4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.29
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.64
    6 Spanish_Murcia 9.7
    7 Spanish_Galicia 9.78
    8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.11
    9 Spanish_Andalucia 10.53
    10 Spanish_Valencia 10.63
    11 Serbian 11.75
    12 Romanian 12.06
    13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.16
    14 Bulgarian 12.24
    15 French 12.67
    16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.86
    17 Southwest_French 13.24
    18 Greek_Thessaly 13.65
    19 Spanish_Aragon 13.7
    20 Greek 13.93

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.7% North_Italian + 11.3% Lithuanian @ 2.41
    2 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Belorussian @ 2.41
    3 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.47
    4 88% North_Italian + 12% Estonian @ 2.48
    5 86.2% North_Italian + 13.8% Polish @ 2.48
    6 87.4% North_Italian + 12.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.54
    7 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.55
    8 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% South_Polish @ 2.59
    9 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian @ 2.6
    10 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.66
    11 81.5% North_Italian + 18.5% Croatian @ 2.71
    12 78.5% North_Italian + 21.5% Austrian @ 2.72
    13 88.3% North_Italian + 11.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.73
    14 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.77
    15 80.6% North_Italian + 19.4% Hungarian @ 2.8
    16 89.3% North_Italian + 10.7% Erzya @ 2.83
    17 88.2% North_Italian + 11.8% East_Finnish @ 2.89
    18 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% Greek @ 2.91
    19 87.6% North_Italian + 12.4% Finnish @ 2.95
    20 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.97


    Global 25
    Veneto-French,0.126344,0.147252,0.038466,-0.002261,0.036314,0.003626,0.00141,0.004846,0.0118 62,0.027518,0.001461,0.005545,-0.015461,-0.01101,0.006515,0.000663,0.001825,0.003167,-0.000251,0.00025,0.001373,0.005317,-0.002095,0.002289,0

    Distance: 2,8842% / 0,02884229
    55,8 TUR_Barcin_N
    34,8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    9.4 WHG


    Target: Veneto-French
    Distance: 0.5451% / 0.00545060 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    32.2 French_Provence
    29.2 Italian_Veneto
    15.8 Spanish_Penedes
    13.0 French_Auvergne
    9.8 Spanish_Catalunya_Central


    Distance to: Veneto-French
    0.01878631 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP259
    0.01960634 French_Corsica:corsica11908
    0.02074217 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
    0.02094802 Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029
    0.02131071 French_Provence:S_20
    0.02153017 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
    0.02163346 Italian_Veneto:Alp100
    0.02174516 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
    0.02198616 Spanish_Girona:ROI027
    0.02203229 Italian_Veneto:Alp401
    0.02219078 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016
    0.02219082 Italian_Bergamo:HGDP01147
    0.02237647 French_Provence:provance2508
    0.02273407 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
    0.02285267 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
    0.02337597 Spanish_Penedes:GUS029
    0.02344284 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
    0.02377722 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta6
    0.02396850 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP395
    0.02413848 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
    0.02423570 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
    0.02429227 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
    0.02440781 French_Auvergne:C_3
    0.02450368 Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
    0.02463479 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625


    Uncle-Venetian2,0.130897,0.14319,0.030547,-0.001292,0.035083,0.001952,0.00376,0.007615,0.0110 44,0.020228,-0.00065,0.006744,-0.009217,0.001789,-0.003393,-0.007027,-0.008866,0.001394,0.002514,-0.006878,-0.000374,0.002102,-0.006779,-0.002651,0.003473

    Distance: 3,5292% / 0,03529183
    38,8 TUR_Barcin_N
    33,8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    18,4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    9,0 WHG

    Target: Uncle-Venetian2
    Distance: 0.9722% / 0.00972155 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    28.8 Italian_Veneto
    20.6 Romanian
    19.6 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    12.6 Italian_Northeast
    10.8 Italian_Bergamo
    4.4 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    3.2 Spanish_Mallorca


    Distance to: Uncle-Venetian2
    0.01695571 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
    0.01991500 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070
    0.02025082 Italian_Northeast:KF2700960
    0.02034239 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
    0.02048437 Italian_Veneto:ALP322
    0.02211597 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP420
    0.02307035 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
    0.02315409 Italian_Veneto:ALP249
    0.02337447 Italian_Veneto:Alp100
    0.02388044 Italian_Veneto:Alp401
    0.02434192 Italian_Northeast:ALP506
    0.02472023 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
    0.02515015 Italian_Northeast:ALP346
    0.02527553 French_Provence:S_20
    0.02528652 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP395
    0.02556221 Italian_Northeast:ALP280
    0.02653586 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont98
    0.02655102 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
    0.02666891 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP259
    0.02676964 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta18
    0.02702105 Italian_Veneto:ALP040
    0.02735342 Spanish_Mallorca:MST073
    0.02768505 Italian_Veneto:ALP022
    0.02771463 Italian_Bergamo:HGDP01153
    0.02822700 Italian_Veneto:KF1803109
    Ther eis currently 7 households in North-Italy with the surname Rudolf .................do you mean Rodolfo ?.....there are 80 households with that surname , the bulk in Lombardy, majority in Pavia province of Lombardy


    Your Veneto map , the places south of Castelfranco is usually under the frazione ( district ) of Vedelago

    A lot of Venetians would link to Iberia only via Catalan ( via times of the kingdom of Aragon ) or Portugal ( as many Venetians captained Portuguese ships down the coast of Africa ( up to Senegal ))......Equally many would have Austrian and/or Provenzal french lines
    Last edited by vettor; 03-03-2021 at 02:03 AM.


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    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Ther eis currently 7 households in North-Italy with the surname Rudolf .................do you mean Rodolfo ?.....there are 80 households with that surname , the bulk in Lombardy, majority in Pavia province of Lombardy


    Your Veneto map , the places south of Castelfranco is usually under the frazione ( district ) of Vedelago

    A lot of Venetians would link to Iberia only via Catalan ( via times of the kingdom of Aragon ) or Portugal ( as many Venetians captained Portuguese ships down the coast of Africa ( up to Senegal ))......Equally many would have Austrian and/or Provenzal french lines
    Rudolf, not "Rudolfo".

    Catharina Rudolf, by her full name; she would have been born before 1850. Her son was baptized in Hungary.

    I only have her son's baptismal certificate. He was baptized in catholic church from Krisztinavárosi ; Budapest ; Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kis-Kun, in 1862.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olymp View Post
    Rudolf, not "Rudolfo".

    Catharina Rudolf, by her full name; she would have been born before 1850. Her son was baptized in Hungary.

    I only have her son's baptismal certificate. He was baptized in catholic church from Krisztinavárosi ; Budapest ; Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kis-Kun, in 1862.
    My friend told me that some Venetians could have been recruited by Spanish and Portuguese but he does not see the connection with a mixture (it does not seem that there was any, otherwise a Spanish and Portuguese contribution would be detectable, especially with extra-European contribution).

    Also "Iberian" on Myheritage does not literally mean "Spanish" (not that).

    In addition, his results are very little in relation to his genealogical origins, when we see his results we have the impression that he is mainly "northern Italian", but this must be due to the fact that some French (without other origin) sometimes obtain "Italian" on Myheritage, so he could have inherited an "Italian" percentage via his French mother who was able to increase the global percentage.

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    Distance: 1.510% : 50.0 German , 50.0 Spanish Castilla .... Distance: 1.453% : 50.4 Swiss German , 49.6 Spanish Barcelona
    Distance: 1.659% : 50.2 Scottish , 49.8 French Corsica...... Distance: 1.714% : 50.8 Italian Lombardy , 49.2 French Brittany
    Distance: 1.959% : 50.8 Irish , 49.2 Italian Tuscany ......... Distance: 2.189% : 50.8 Dutch , 49.2 Basque French

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andour View Post
    (Olymp : I tried to answer your PM. Your inbox is full. Please clear some space and let me know when done. Thanks)
    Trying again. Its ok now.

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    Code:
    Irish/Scottish/Welsh,0.13228260,0.13575633,0.06116163,0.04610647,0.03934567,0.01760073,0.00328790,0.00544713,0.00432753,0.00329560,-0.00566140,0.00552183,-0.01298923,-0.01229210,0.02298907,0.00455140,-0.01034353,0.00244507,0.00212870,0.00159910,0.00479467,0.00279477,-0.00034153,0.01318237,0.00036833
    French:Center,0.12629375,0.14304605,0.04892535,0.01849095,0.04218765,0.00665110,0.00122955,0.00398360,0.01350490,0.02017300,-0.00508600,0.00708335,-0.01343755,-0.01002685,0.01103420,0.00377305,-0.00130630,0.00308060,0.00289040,-0.00059540,0.00202930,0.00365585,-0.00175740,0.00647840,-0.00099690
    German,0.12967560,0.13619240,0.05618755,0.03572190,0.03738955,0.01410635,0.00564820,0.00601530,0.00317670,0.00231755,-0.00414570,0.00157895,-0.00333240,0.00012160,0.00450770,0.00349405,-0.00152525,0.00122655,0.00327310,0.00127880,0.00107455,-0.00032490,0.00086965,0.00563395,-0.00037550
    Greek,0.11140840,0.14591180,-0.00812253,-0.04104343,0.00871315,-0.01319430,0.00090083,-0.00172838,-0.00075845,0.01704973,0.00310060,0.00279748,-0.00398438,0.00354085,-0.00934730,-0.00112803,0.00415830,0.00021075,0.00356465,-0.00389083,-0.00505928,0.00134385,0.00106483,0.00079573,-0.00272183
    Italian:Center,0.11701408,0.14925148,0.00917310,-0.02814708,0.02221933,-0.01003865,0.00044550,-0.00159775,0.00642820,0.02364700,0.00002603,0.00452040,-0.00955638,-0.00467495,-0.00375115,0.00052440,0.00259400,0.00045623,0.00235623,-0.00327855,-0.00208228,0.00226180,-0.00011475,0.00257140,-0.00120693
    Italian:Italian_North,0.124193556,0.147327,0.030756259,-0.007572556,0.034239963,-0.002706185,0.002367407,0.001623963,0.00988537,0.024122556,-0.002610222,0.00650537,-0.011452333,-0.002701444,-0.00214137,-0.003216519,-0.001719222,0.001736185,0.004162037,-0.003862926,-0.001626741,0.000746481,-0.001821222,0.004123593,0.000328222

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Code:
    Irish/Scottish/Welsh,0.13228260,0.13575633,0.06116163,0.04610647,0.03934567,0.01760073,0.00328790,0.00544713,0.00432753,0.00329560,-0.00566140,0.00552183,-0.01298923,-0.01229210,0.02298907,0.00455140,-0.01034353,0.00244507,0.00212870,0.00159910,0.00479467,0.00279477,-0.00034153,0.01318237,0.00036833
    French:Center,0.12629375,0.14304605,0.04892535,0.01849095,0.04218765,0.00665110,0.00122955,0.00398360,0.01350490,0.02017300,-0.00508600,0.00708335,-0.01343755,-0.01002685,0.01103420,0.00377305,-0.00130630,0.00308060,0.00289040,-0.00059540,0.00202930,0.00365585,-0.00175740,0.00647840,-0.00099690
    German,0.12967560,0.13619240,0.05618755,0.03572190,0.03738955,0.01410635,0.00564820,0.00601530,0.00317670,0.00231755,-0.00414570,0.00157895,-0.00333240,0.00012160,0.00450770,0.00349405,-0.00152525,0.00122655,0.00327310,0.00127880,0.00107455,-0.00032490,0.00086965,0.00563395,-0.00037550
    Greek,0.11140840,0.14591180,-0.00812253,-0.04104343,0.00871315,-0.01319430,0.00090083,-0.00172838,-0.00075845,0.01704973,0.00310060,0.00279748,-0.00398438,0.00354085,-0.00934730,-0.00112803,0.00415830,0.00021075,0.00356465,-0.00389083,-0.00505928,0.00134385,0.00106483,0.00079573,-0.00272183
    Italian:Center,0.11701408,0.14925148,0.00917310,-0.02814708,0.02221933,-0.01003865,0.00044550,-0.00159775,0.00642820,0.02364700,0.00002603,0.00452040,-0.00955638,-0.00467495,-0.00375115,0.00052440,0.00259400,0.00045623,0.00235623,-0.00327855,-0.00208228,0.00226180,-0.00011475,0.00257140,-0.00120693
    Italian:Italian_North,0.124193556,0.147327,0.030756259,-0.007572556,0.034239963,-0.002706185,0.002367407,0.001623963,0.00988537,0.024122556,-0.002610222,0.00650537,-0.011452333,-0.002701444,-0.00214137,-0.003216519,-0.001719222,0.001736185,0.004162037,-0.003862926,-0.001626741,0.000746481,-0.001821222,0.004123593,0.000328222
    Target: Veneto-French
    Distance: 1.4320% / 0.01432023 | ADC: 2x RC
    61.0 Italian
    39.0 French

    Target: Veneto-French
    Distance: 1.4320% / 0.01432023 | ADC: 1x RC
    61.0 Italian
    39.0 French

    Target: Veneto-French
    Distance: 1.4320% / 0.01432023 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    61.0 Italian
    39.0 French

    Target: Veneto-French
    Distance: 1.3287% / 0.01328738 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    57.4 French
    42.6 Italian

    Target: Veneto-French
    Distance: 1.3287% / 0.01328738
    57.4 French
    42.6 Italian

    Distance to: Veneto-French
    0.02098651 Italian:Italian_North
    0.02795425 French:Center
    0.04825963 Italian:Center
    0.05605105 German
    0.06719231 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
    0.07738009 Greek


    Target: Brotherpaternalgrandmother-Venetian2
    Distance: 1.9241% / 0.01924082 | ADC: 2x RC
    100.0 Italian

    Target: Brotherpaternalgrandmother-Venetian2
    Distance: 1.9241% / 0.01924082 | ADC: 1x RC
    100.0 Italian

    Target: Brotherpaternalgrandmother-Venetian2
    Distance: 1.7485% / 0.01748484 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    86.8 Italian
    13.2 German

    Target: Brotherpaternalgrandmother-Venetian2
    Distance: 1.7485% / 0.01748484 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    86.8 Italian
    13.2 German

    Target: Brotherpaternalgrandmother-Venetian2
    Distance: 1.7485% / 0.01748484
    86.8 Italian
    13.2 German


    Distance to: Brotherpaternalgrandmother-Venetian2
    0.01924082 Italian:Italian_North
    0.03983580 French:Center
    0.04681662 Italian:Center
    0.05603715 German
    0.07126069 Greek
    0.07289924 Irish/Scottish/Welsh

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Code:
    Irish/Scottish/Welsh,0.13228260,0.13575633,0.06116163,0.04610647,0.03934567,0.01760073,0.00328790,0.00544713,0.00432753,0.00329560,-0.00566140,0.00552183,-0.01298923,-0.01229210,0.02298907,0.00455140,-0.01034353,0.00244507,0.00212870,0.00159910,0.00479467,0.00279477,-0.00034153,0.01318237,0.00036833
    French:Center,0.12629375,0.14304605,0.04892535,0.01849095,0.04218765,0.00665110,0.00122955,0.00398360,0.01350490,0.02017300,-0.00508600,0.00708335,-0.01343755,-0.01002685,0.01103420,0.00377305,-0.00130630,0.00308060,0.00289040,-0.00059540,0.00202930,0.00365585,-0.00175740,0.00647840,-0.00099690
    German,0.12967560,0.13619240,0.05618755,0.03572190,0.03738955,0.01410635,0.00564820,0.00601530,0.00317670,0.00231755,-0.00414570,0.00157895,-0.00333240,0.00012160,0.00450770,0.00349405,-0.00152525,0.00122655,0.00327310,0.00127880,0.00107455,-0.00032490,0.00086965,0.00563395,-0.00037550
    Greek,0.11140840,0.14591180,-0.00812253,-0.04104343,0.00871315,-0.01319430,0.00090083,-0.00172838,-0.00075845,0.01704973,0.00310060,0.00279748,-0.00398438,0.00354085,-0.00934730,-0.00112803,0.00415830,0.00021075,0.00356465,-0.00389083,-0.00505928,0.00134385,0.00106483,0.00079573,-0.00272183
    Italian:Center,0.11701408,0.14925148,0.00917310,-0.02814708,0.02221933,-0.01003865,0.00044550,-0.00159775,0.00642820,0.02364700,0.00002603,0.00452040,-0.00955638,-0.00467495,-0.00375115,0.00052440,0.00259400,0.00045623,0.00235623,-0.00327855,-0.00208228,0.00226180,-0.00011475,0.00257140,-0.00120693
    Italian:Italian_North,0.124193556,0.147327,0.030756259,-0.007572556,0.034239963,-0.002706185,0.002367407,0.001623963,0.00988537,0.024122556,-0.002610222,0.00650537,-0.011452333,-0.002701444,-0.00214137,-0.003216519,-0.001719222,0.001736185,0.004162037,-0.003862926,-0.001626741,0.000746481,-0.001821222,0.004123593,0.000328222
    Distance to: Vettor_scaled
    0.02111616 Italian:Italian_North
    0.04477128 French:Center
    0.04529634 Italian:Center
    0.05979718 German
    0.06802128 Greek
    0.07608847 Irish/Scottish/Welsh



    Target: Vettor_scaled
    Distance: 2.1186% / 0.02118593
    79.8 Italian
    13.4 German
    6.8 Greek


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olymp View Post
    Rudolf, not "Rudolfo".

    Catharina Rudolf, by her full name; she would have been born before 1850. Her son was baptized in Hungary.

    I only have her son's baptismal certificate. He was baptized in catholic church from Krisztinavárosi ; Budapest ; Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kis-Kun, in 1862.
    Only one I found is a Catharina Rudolf...born in Galicia Poland ( Galicia under Austria at the time )....moved to North-East Italy ( also under Austria at the time )and married a venetian man surnamed Sartori

    Sartori or more historically correct.. Sartor ( meaning a Tailor )


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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