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    Here are the results of Philippine averages: I noticed that no one have averaged them so I decide to do it. Murut and Gongguan is Austronesian, Zhejiang is Chinese to represent if there is any Sinitic admixture in Pinos. (There were a lot of historic Chinese migrations to the Philippines even before the arrival of Spaniards: there used to be Chinese-influenced kingdoms or principalities in Luzon for example). Shahr_Sokhta and AASI to represent South Asian admixture, Basque to represent European ancestry (it seems a lot of Spaniards who colonized the Philippines were Basques), Yemeni to represent any Arab affinity and Mixe (an Amerindian tribe from Mexico) to represent any Latino admixture.

    Target: Filipino
    Distance: 0.9264% / 0.00926370
    46.4 Murut
    31.2 TWN_Gongguan
    12.6 Han_Zhejiang
    3.4 Basque_Spanish
    2.6 Papuan
    1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.4 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    0.8 Yemenite_Al_Jawf

    Target: Luzon
    Distance: 0.7354% / 0.00735382
    41.8 Murut
    32.4 TWN_Gongguan
    16.6 Han_Zhejiang
    2.8 Basque_Spanish
    2.8 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    1.8 Papuan
    1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.2 Mixe

    Target: Vizayan
    Distance: 1.1727% / 0.01172717
    47.8 TWN_Gongguan
    39.0 Murut
    5.2 Papuan
    3.4 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    2.4 Basque_Spanish
    1.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.8 Mixe

    Target: Igorot
    Distance: 2.5155% / 0.02515541
    73.8 TWN_Gongguan
    25.0 Murut
    0.8 Papuan
    0.2 Basque_Spanish
    0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1


    Target: Aeta
    Distance: 4.5773% / 0.04577292
    35.0 Murut
    26.8 TWN_Gongguan
    13.4 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    12.4 Papuan
    6.0 Basque_Spanish
    5.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.4 Mixe

    Target: Agta
    Distance: 5.3927% / 0.05392674
    37.0 TWN_Gongguan
    24.2 Murut
    13.6 Papuan
    13.6 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    5.0 Basque_Spanish
    5.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.2 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
    0.4 Mixe

    Target: Batak
    Distance: 3.1222% / 0.03122174
    61.6 Murut
    11.2 Papuan
    9.0 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    8.8 TWN_Gongguan
    5.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.6 Basque_Spanish
    1.2 Mixe
    1.0 Yemenite_Al_Jawf

    Replacing AASI and Iran_N with a South Asian proxy to see if Indian affinity is genuine:


    Target: Filipino
    Distance: 0.9491% / 0.00949082
    47.2 Murut
    30.4 TWN_Gongguan
    12.8 Han_Zhejiang
    3.0 Gujarati
    2.8 Basque_Spanish
    2.6 Papuan
    1.2 Yemenite_Al_Jawf

    Target: Luzon
    Distance: 0.8536% / 0.00853599
    44.2 Murut
    29.8 TWN_Gongguan
    17.6 Han_Zhejiang
    5.0 Gujarati
    1.8 Papuan
    1.6 Basque_Spanish

    Target: Vizayan
    Distance: 1.2750% / 0.01275001
    45.8 TWN_Gongguan
    41.0 Murut
    5.6 Gujarati
    5.4 Papuan
    0.8 Basque_Spanish
    0.8 Han_Zhejiang
    0.6 Mixe

    Target: Igorot
    Distance: 2.5164% / 0.02516429
    73.6 TWN_Gongguan
    25.2 Murut
    0.8 Papuan
    0.4 Basque_Spanish

    Target: Aeta
    Distance: 5.0864% / 0.05086435
    41.0 Murut
    23.4 TWN_Gongguan
    21.4 Gujarati
    13.2 Papuan
    1.0 Mixe

    Target: Agta
    Distance: 5.8222% / 0.05822222
    35.0 TWN_Gongguan
    28.6 Murut
    21.8 Gujarati
    14.6 Papuan

    Target: Batak
    Distance: 3.3491% / 0.03349095
    64.4 Murut
    15.4 Gujarati
    11.8 Papuan
    7.6 TWN_Gongguan
    0.8 Mixe

    Here are the G25 results of individual Philipinos. Interesting how many score significant Chinese ancestry. Which shows that Chinese admixture is widespread in the Phils that expected. Also it seems like all of them have some West Eurasian admixture (Iran_N+Iberian+Yemeni). I'm confused though where does the Arab admixture in Pinoys come from? Some early Islamic contact? Philippines used to be Islamic+Animist+Buddhist+Hindu before the arrival of the Spaniards. Even today, there are still notable Muslim minority in Southern Phils.






    Individual results of Igorots (an isolated Austronesian Mountain tribe from Northern Phils) and Negritos to compare: Its so strange to see Negritos scoring so many South Asian (AASI+Iran_N) and European admixture??..



    I decided to put a South Asian population just to verify if their South Asian is genuine. Seems like they have actual Indian ancestry. Which probably comes from the Indianization period of Philippines which was before Spanish colonization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian...ppine_polities





    Note- Vizayan3 seems to be the same individual as the lone Vizayan sample in G25 spreadsheet while Luz6 seems to be the same individual as the single Luzon sample in G25
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    The Islamic sultanates were established by Malay speaking muslim elites from Borneo and ruled over an indigenous population.
    I highly doubt the Filipinos have minor Arab admixture as it seems like very rare ancestry even for muslim SE Asians.I think those Yemeni scores is just noise tbh or might represent the NA ancestry of the Spaniards that mixed with the Filipinos as you used the Basque as a representative of Iberian ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    The Islamic sultanates were established by Malay speaking muslim elites from Borneo and ruled over an indigenous population.
    I highly doubt the Filipinos have minor Arab admixture as it seems like very rare ancestry even for muslim SE Asians.I think those Yemeni scores is just noise tbh or might represent the NA ancestry of the Spaniards that mixed with the Filipinos as you used the Basque as a representative of Iberian ancestry.
    Thanks. You are right. Arab ancestry is actually very rare among SE Asians even those who are Muslims. Do you think the Indian ancestry is genuine though? What about the European and South Asian admixture in the Negritos?

    Just found out that most of the Spaniards who settled in the Philippines were from Andalucia and that Basques were actually a small minority of settlers despite being the forefathers of several prominent politician and businessmen families in the Phils. Therefore, I replaced the Basques with Andalucians for the Iberian proxy. I also included Moroccan_North and Esan_Nigeria to see if the Arab affinity will disappear or not. Here is the result:



    Compare with ethnic minorities like Igorots (remote Austronesian tribal group from the mountains of Northern Phils) and Negritos (Aeta, Agta, Batak). Just found out that there are new Igorot samples as well which I forgot to include in the previous runs.



    Btw here are the averages for each Philippine population:


    Target: Filipino
    Distance: 0.8832% / 0.00883193
    46.8 Murut
    30.8 TWN_Gongguan
    12.6 Han_Zhejiang
    3.2 Spanish_Andalucia
    2.6 Papuan
    1.4 Moroccan_North
    1.4 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1


    Target: Luzon
    Distance: 0.7631% / 0.00763094
    42.0 Murut
    32.2 TWN_Gongguan
    16.6 Han_Zhejiang
    3.0 Spanish_Andalucia
    2.8 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    1.8 Papuan
    1.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.2 Mixe


    Target: Vizayan
    Distance: 1.1378% / 0.01137789
    47.6 TWN_Gongguan
    38.6 Murut
    5.0 Papuan
    3.8 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    2.8 Spanish_Andalucia
    1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.0 Mixe

    Target: Igorot
    Distance: 2.3768% / 0.02376791
    76.0 TWN_Gongguan
    22.4 Murut
    0.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    0.8 Papuan

    Target: Aeta
    Distance: 3.6276% / 0.03627556
    46.2 Murut
    15.6 TWN_Gongguan
    12.6 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    11.8 Papuan
    5.8 Spanish_Andalucia
    3.8 Esan_Nigeria
    2.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.8 Mixe

    Target: Agta
    Distance: 4.4480% / 0.04448038
    37.0 Murut
    24.2 TWN_Gongguan
    13.0 Papuan
    12.6 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    5.2 Spanish_Andalucia
    4.4 Esan_Nigeria
    2.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.0 Mixe

    Target: Batak
    Distance: 2.6015% / 0.02601456
    67.8 Murut
    10.8 Papuan
    8.6 S_AASI_Sim(Hakkipikki)
    4.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    2.6 TWN_Gongguan
    2.4 Esan_Nigeria
    1.8 Spanish_Andalucia
    1.4 Mixe

    Something is fishy to me about the Negrito results. How do they get African, Spanish and Native American admixture from except if they also mixed with the Spanish and Latin American colonialists.

    Btw the AASI utilized here is simulated from the Hakkipikki, a tribal group from Southern India while Mixe is an Amerindian tribe from Mexico that is used as a proxy to see if there is any Latin American ancestry in the Philippines.
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    The "Gujarati" in Aeta/Agta definitely isn't genuine South Asian ancestry. It's most likely picking up the "Basal Eurasian" (which I assume is Onge-like) in Philippine Negrito DNA that isn't captured by Papuan or AASI_Sim. Why aren't you also using Onge/Hoabinhian?

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    Where did they find these Filipino samples? They seem to have legit Arab admixture unlike the Javanese and the vast majority of the muslims of the region besides the outliers,but only one of the samples has Iberian ancestry.

     
    Target: Vizayan
    Distance: 2.7395% / 0.02739548 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.8 TON_2500BP
    8.0 Han
    7.6 Onge
    4.2 LAO_BA
    2.4 Papuan

    Target: Luzon
    Distance: 2.2069% / 0.02206889 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    81.6 TON_2500BP
    15.6 Han
    2.8 LAO_BA

    Target: Filipino:GRC11053499
    Distance: 3.1218% / 0.03121816 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    86.8 TON_2500BP
    9.0 Han
    1.8 Papuan
    1.2 Onge
    1.2 Yemeni

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041276
    Distance: 2.3222% / 0.02322211 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.8 TON_2500BP
    25.2 Han
    15.2 LAO_BA
    2.2 Yemeni
    1.6 Papuan

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041275
    Distance: 1.8956% / 0.01895560 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    70.4 TON_2500BP
    13.8 Han
    12.8 LAO_BA
    1.8 Yemeni
    0.6 Papuan
    0.6 Velamas

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041274
    Distance: 2.5440% / 0.02544035 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    61.8 TON_2500BP
    32.4 Han
    2.8 Velamas
    1.6 Onge
    1.4 Papuan

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041273
    Distance: 1.7529% / 0.01752851 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.0 TON_2500BP
    15.0 Han
    5.4 LAO_BA
    1.4 Papuan
    1.2 Onge

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041272
    Distance: 2.1956% / 0.02195575 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    69.6 TON_2500BP
    13.2 LAO_BA
    9.6 Han
    3.6 Spanish_Andalucia
    3.2 Yemeni

    0.8 Papuan



    The other populations:
     
    Target: Igorot
    Distance: 4.3283% / 0.04328304 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    91.2 TON_2500BP
    8.8 Han

    Target: Aeta
    Distance: 3.3371% / 0.03337113 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 TON_2500BP
    37.6 Onge
    7.4 Papuan

    Target: Agta
    Distance: 4.1704% / 0.04170381 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 TON_2500BP
    36.2 Onge
    8.8 Papuan

    Target: Batak
    Distance: 2.7459% / 0.02745948 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    65.6 TON_2500BP
    26.8 Onge
    7.6 Papuan
    Target: Mother_scaled
    Distance: 2.7347% / 0.02734703 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    92.2 Somali
    7.8 Yemenite_Jew

    Target: Drobbah_scaled
    Distance: 2.9400% / 0.02939982 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    94.0 Somali
    5.4 Yemenite_Jew
    0.6 Levant_Natufian

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Where did they find these Filipino samples? They seem to have legit Arab admixture unlike the Javanese and the vast majority of the muslims of the region besides the outliers,but only one of the samples has Iberian ancestry.

     
    Target: Vizayan
    Distance: 2.7395% / 0.02739548 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.8 TON_2500BP
    8.0 Han
    7.6 Onge
    4.2 LAO_BA
    2.4 Papuan

    Target: Luzon
    Distance: 2.2069% / 0.02206889 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    81.6 TON_2500BP
    15.6 Han
    2.8 LAO_BA

    Target: Filipino:GRC11053499
    Distance: 3.1218% / 0.03121816 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    86.8 TON_2500BP
    9.0 Han
    1.8 Papuan
    1.2 Onge
    1.2 Yemeni

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041276
    Distance: 2.3222% / 0.02322211 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.8 TON_2500BP
    25.2 Han
    15.2 LAO_BA
    2.2 Yemeni
    1.6 Papuan

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041275
    Distance: 1.8956% / 0.01895560 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    70.4 TON_2500BP
    13.8 Han
    12.8 LAO_BA
    1.8 Yemeni
    0.6 Papuan
    0.6 Velamas

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041274
    Distance: 2.5440% / 0.02544035 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    61.8 TON_2500BP
    32.4 Han
    2.8 Velamas
    1.6 Onge
    1.4 Papuan

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041273
    Distance: 1.7529% / 0.01752851 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.0 TON_2500BP
    15.0 Han
    5.4 LAO_BA
    1.4 Papuan
    1.2 Onge

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041272
    Distance: 2.1956% / 0.02195575 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    69.6 TON_2500BP
    13.2 LAO_BA
    9.6 Han
    3.6 Spanish_Andalucia
    3.2 Yemeni

    0.8 Papuan



    The other populations:
     
    Target: Igorot
    Distance: 4.3283% / 0.04328304 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    91.2 TON_2500BP
    8.8 Han

    Target: Aeta
    Distance: 3.3371% / 0.03337113 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 TON_2500BP
    37.6 Onge
    7.4 Papuan

    Target: Agta
    Distance: 4.1704% / 0.04170381 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 TON_2500BP
    36.2 Onge
    8.8 Papuan

    Target: Batak
    Distance: 2.7459% / 0.02745948 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    65.6 TON_2500BP
    26.8 Onge
    7.6 Papuan
    I'm not sure where in the Phils they are from. All I know is that they are non-Kankanaey aka non-tribal which means mainstream ethnic groups like Tagalog, Ilocano, Kapampangan, Cebuano, etc. In this case since they have actual Arab admixture, maybe they are indeed Muslims from Mindanao which is in the South close to Indonesia and Malaysia? Actually there are other Philippine samples as well but looks like they haven't been included into the G25 spreadsheet yet. Here they are if you also wanted to run them:

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    Luzon:Luz1,0.014797,-0.426522,-0.051288,-0.052649,0.12987,0.047411,-0.003055,-0.014307,-0.019634,-0.017312,0.039136,0.005995,-0.007433,-0.005643,0.00855,0.01127,0.000261,0.003041,0.00993,-0.016258,0.001996,-0.026462,-0.0053,-0.007832,-0.05257
    Luzon:Luz3,0.018212,-0.42246,-0.048271,-0.055233,0.119099,0.046296,-0.005875,-0.012923,-0.016362,-0.014943,0.026307,0.004796,-0.000297,-0.00523,0.008958,0.004508,-0.000913,0.003674,0.001006,-0.005002,0.00262,-0.020526,-0.00037,-0.001446,-0.034009
    Luzon:Luz4,0.013659,-0.409258,-0.04714,-0.04199,0.116637,0.043228,-0.000705,-0.008077,-0.014317,-0.013668,0.027119,0.005995,-0.006987,-0.007432,0.002986,0.00053,-0.006389,0.005574,0.006034,-0.005127,0.004617,-0.019413,-0.006039,-0.002892,-0.0382
    Luzon:Luz5,0.017073,-0.370668,-0.049403,-0.036822,0.118791,0.045738,-0.00705,-0.014999,-0.011249,-0.010205,0.030367,0.001049,-0.000446,-0.004129,0.007057,0.011005,0.000782,0.006081,0.006034,-0.004127,0.002121,-0.018424,-0.009613,-0.003735,-0.037841
    Luzon:Luz6,0.010244,-0.4316,-0.055814,-0.053295,0.137256,0.061077,-0.004465,-0.009461,-0.018407,-0.014032,0.042871,0.004046,-0.004014,-0.00578,0.012486,0.010077,-0.005607,0.004941,0.007416,-0.008629,0.004617,-0.029182,-0.000739,-0.006989,-0.051253
    Luzon:Luz7,0.017073,-0.416367,-0.056191,-0.053295,0.126177,0.048248,0.002585,-0.008077,-0.015748,-0.015672,0.041247,0.003597,-0.002527,-0.007294,0.004886,0.007425,-0.003129,0.009122,0.007416,-0.008629,0.00262,-0.026709,-0.00493,-0.00735,-0.049097
    Luzon:Luz8,0.017073,-0.40215,-0.048271,-0.048127,0.115098,0.052989,-0.00658,-0.011999,-0.016975,-0.013668,0.025495,0.000599,0.001338,-0.003853,0.000543,0.005304,-0.006519,0.003547,0.010684,-0.007253,0.00262,-0.013478,-0.000246,-0.003494,-0.034368
    Luzon:Luz9,0.014797,-0.42246,-0.044877,-0.046189,0.11356,0.059125,-0.004465,-0.010846,-0.017998,-0.01221,0.014128,0.002248,0.003568,-0.003028,0.002986,0.007955,-0.002608,0.003041,0.005405,-0.009505,0.007237,-0.00507,0.003697,-0.007109,-0.034847
    Luzon:Luz10,0.009106,-0.406212,-0.052043,-0.05168,0.119407,0.047411,-0.003055,-0.007615,-0.015953,-0.012757,0.034589,0.004196,0.000595,-0.001514,0.004886,0.010209,0.005607,0.000127,0.007416,-0.004502,-0.002121,-0.020403,-0.003697,-0.003735,-0.044667
    Luzon:Luz11,0.011382,-0.416367,-0.053551,-0.042959,0.122177,0.049643,-0.00611,-0.014307,-0.014726,-0.010752,0.026469,0.005395,-0.007136,0.001101,0.014251,-0.001458,-0.007562,0.004814,0.003142,-0.006878,0.002995,-0.013849,-0.005176,-0.006989,-0.034727
    Luzon:Luz12,0.018212,-0.427538,-0.056568,-0.052972,0.137872,0.056057,-0.0047,-0.005307,-0.014521,-0.019499,0.050503,0.005245,-0.006987,0.001789,0.010179,0.005171,-0.001695,0.008235,0.000628,-0.007128,0.007736,-0.027327,-0.007148,-0.009037,-0.048379
    Vizayan:Vizaya2,0.004553,-0.415352,-0.064865,-0.031008,0.143719,0.037092,-0.004935,-0.017999,-0.019225,-0.024602,0.049853,-0.001948,-0.004162,0.000275,0.010179,0.00716,-0.004303,0.004941,0.006913,-0.01013,-0.000998,-0.025472,-0.013311,-0.005302,-0.055085
    Vizayan:Vizaya3,0.013659,-0.405196,-0.062225,-0.033592,0.126177,0.036535,-0.00611,-0.011307,-0.011658,-0.018406,0.048554,0.005245,-0.002379,0.001651,0.008143,0.001724,-0.008345,0.004814,0.005908,-0.01063,-0.003743,-0.027327,-0.005916,-0.001566,-0.050175
    Vizayan:Vizaya4,0.013659,-0.406212,-0.058454,-0.039729,0.133256,0.036256,-0.003995,-0.012923,-0.016157,-0.017495,0.048879,0.001349,-0.001635,0.005092,0.006243,0.007823,-0.002086,0.002914,0.005405,-0.011881,0.003369,-0.028564,-0.007518,-0.005422,-0.049217
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    Igorot19:Igorot19,0.020488,-0.44074,-0.040729,-0.07106,0.140949,0.07279,-0.0047,-0.012461,-0.033951,-0.017312,0.049204,0.007194,-0.009366,-0.006193,0.012215,0.010209,-0.003129,0.009755,0.014707,-0.020885,0.007986,-0.035983,-0.001109,-0.01217,-0.079873
    Igorot20:Igorot20,0.014797,-0.441755,-0.047894,-0.062662,0.139411,0.061635,-0.004465,-0.012923,-0.023111,-0.016766,0.0544,0.004946,-0.008771,-0.008533,0.014658,0.004906,-0.007302,0.008488,0.012947,-0.015132,0.010482,-0.03116,-0.006039,-0.005543,-0.078795
    Igorot21:Igorot21,0.01935,-0.450895,-0.046386,-0.068153,0.145258,0.065539,-0.000235,-0.020307,-0.02802,-0.027518,0.053588,0.002548,-0.004162,-0.002202,0.014522,0.006895,-0.005867,0.008361,0.011439,-0.02001,0.003494,-0.035736,-0.001602,-0.010242,-0.065503
    Igorot22:Igorot22,0.01935,-0.451911,-0.047517,-0.070737,0.141257,0.067492,-0.003055,-0.014076,-0.028633,-0.024237,0.052614,0.003747,-0.005054,-0.00578,0.012351,0.006232,-0.006389,0.012922,0.019986,-0.022261,0.003993,-0.037961,0.002218,-0.009037,-0.069814
    Igorot23:Igorot23,0.020488,-0.448864,-0.048649,-0.066215,0.142488,0.061914,-0.001645,-0.014076,-0.031088,-0.026971,0.046118,0.004046,-0.009217,-0.000826,0.013029,0.009944,-0.000652,0.000887,0.011564,-0.013381,0.001747,-0.03487,-0.007888,-0.003976,-0.068856

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsakhur View Post
    I'm not sure where in the Phils they are from. All I know is that they are non-Kankanaey aka non-tribal which means mainstream ethnic groups like Tagalog, Ilocano, Kapampangan, Cebuano, etc. In this case since they have actual Arab admixture, maybe they are indeed Muslims from Mindanao which is in the South close to Indonesia and Malaysia? Actually there are other Philippine samples as well but looks like they haven't been included into the G25 spreadsheet yet. Here they are if you also wanted to run them
    Filipinos are basically Austronesian + Han Chinese. How did this Chinese ancestry become such a significant component among the Filipinos?
     


    Target: Mother_scaled
    Distance: 2.7347% / 0.02734703 | ADC: 0.25x RC
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    Target: Drobbah_scaled
    Distance: 2.9400% / 0.02939982 | ADC: 0.25x RC
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    I find this thread rather interesting since I work with a number of Filipinos now. Quite a few have moved here within the last few years to work in Healthcare. Most of them seem to be from Mindanao so far....Very nice and hardworking people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Where did they find these Filipino samples? They seem to have legit Arab admixture unlike the Javanese and the vast majority of the muslims of the region besides the outliers,but only one of the samples has Iberian ancestry.

     
    Target: Vizayan
    Distance: 2.7395% / 0.02739548 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.8 TON_2500BP
    8.0 Han
    7.6 Onge
    4.2 LAO_BA
    2.4 Papuan

    Target: Luzon
    Distance: 2.2069% / 0.02206889 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    81.6 TON_2500BP
    15.6 Han
    2.8 LAO_BA

    Target: Filipino:GRC11053499
    Distance: 3.1218% / 0.03121816 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    86.8 TON_2500BP
    9.0 Han
    1.8 Papuan
    1.2 Onge
    1.2 Yemeni

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041276
    Distance: 2.3222% / 0.02322211 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.8 TON_2500BP
    25.2 Han
    15.2 LAO_BA
    2.2 Yemeni
    1.6 Papuan

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041275
    Distance: 1.8956% / 0.01895560 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    70.4 TON_2500BP
    13.8 Han
    12.8 LAO_BA
    1.8 Yemeni
    0.6 Papuan
    0.6 Velamas

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041274
    Distance: 2.5440% / 0.02544035 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    61.8 TON_2500BP
    32.4 Han
    2.8 Velamas
    1.6 Onge
    1.4 Papuan

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041273
    Distance: 1.7529% / 0.01752851 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.0 TON_2500BP
    15.0 Han
    5.4 LAO_BA
    1.4 Papuan
    1.2 Onge

    Target: Filipino:GRC10041272
    Distance: 2.1956% / 0.02195575 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    69.6 TON_2500BP
    13.2 LAO_BA
    9.6 Han
    3.6 Spanish_Andalucia
    3.2 Yemeni

    0.8 Papuan



    The other populations:
     
    Target: Igorot
    Distance: 4.3283% / 0.04328304 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    91.2 TON_2500BP
    8.8 Han

    Target: Aeta
    Distance: 3.3371% / 0.03337113 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 TON_2500BP
    37.6 Onge
    7.4 Papuan

    Target: Agta
    Distance: 4.1704% / 0.04170381 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 TON_2500BP
    36.2 Onge
    8.8 Papuan

    Target: Batak
    Distance: 2.7459% / 0.02745948 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    65.6 TON_2500BP
    26.8 Onge
    7.6 Papuan
    I was wondering myself a bit about Arab admixture among Filipinos since some of them are Muslim with Arabic sounding surnames. I work with one woman who is originally from Mindanao and she has both an Arabic sounding first name and surname. When I asked her about her origins she told me that her family has a tradition that they have some ancestors who moved to the Phillipines from the Middle East a long time ago. She looks no different than any of the other Filipinos at my work though. If she does have any Arab ancestors they must have moved there many generations ago...Pretty interesting stuff anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Filipinos are basically Austronesian + Han Chinese. How did this Chinese ancestry become such a significant component among the Filipinos?
    Are you sure that is real Han Chinese ancestry? (What Han population are you using?) I put in Taiwan Hanben IA or Fujian LN for Island Southeast Asia to represent Austronesian ancestry without Lapita-specific drift, and then I don't see any Yellow River ancestry. OTOH there could be later Han-related ancestry in those samples that Lapita doesn't have, so maybe using Hanben IA or Fujian LN is misleading.

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