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    R1b-L2+ Z49- Z367- DNA Results (FGC, BigY, & Other)

    Don't know if this really needed a new thread for the dozen or so with test results arriving in the next weeks, but here are my L2+ Z49- Z367- results so far L2* not matching anyone, yet. Based on updated NGC reports and Big Y results reports.

    Many of these will just be recent Family SNPs. The ones which were tested positive in my Big Y are indicated. NGC data was able to evaluate all SNPs found in Big Y as expected.

    13820260 is under study as it did not meet the FGC criteria for reliability.

    b37 position Reference allele Sample allele Named variant status BigY Novel Samples sharing variant
    FGC SNPs shared:
    28586221 A G CTS12419+ HG01161 (E-M5347)
    9034891 C T FGC7986+ High+ HG04198 (H2*)
    6827507 G A FGC5286+ HG03432 (E-Z6013)
    14660607 T C FGC5287+ HG01840 (O-F923*)
    Private FGC SNPs:
    3088816 T G FGC5288+
    3463656 C T FGC5289+
    3915368 C T FGC5290+
    4200262 A G FGC5291+
    4608804 G A FGC5292+
    5112364 C T FGC5293+
    5547084 G T FGC5294+
    6403864 T A FGC5295+
    6985619 G A FGC5296+ High+
    7015529 C T FGC5297+
    7022935 A G FGC5298+
    7038254 C G FGC7987+
    7115859 T C FGC5299+ High+
    7681861 A G M6559+
    7832161 T C FGC5300+ Medium+
    7899592 C T FGC5301+ High+
    7969590 T C FGC5302+
    8320779 A C FGC5303+ High+
    9156208 T C FGC5304+ High+
    13329890 A G FGC5305+
    13820260 G A TBD+ High+
    14420067 T C FGC5306+ High+
    14675249 G T FGC5307+
    14865182 A C FGC5308+ High+
    15909364 T C FGC5309+
    15931829 T C FGC5310+
    16267644 C G FGC5311+ High+
    16338151 C T FGC5312+ High+
    17008323 A C FGC5313+ High+
    17557325 T G FGC5314+
    17794885 G A FGC5315+ High+
    18825164 G A FGC5316+ High+
    18964422 T C FGC5317+ High+
    21260230 T C FGC5318+
    21382958 T G FGC5319+
    21409985 G A FGC5320+
    21654553 A G FGC5321+ High+
    22294291 C T FGC5322+
    22489310 G T FGC5323+ High+
    23051944 A G FGC5324+
    Private FGC INDELs/MNPs :
    7390278 CGGG CGG FGC5325+
    9971546 CTT CT FGC5326+
    14035926 CTAAAAT CT FGC7988+
    17052814 TC T FGC5327+
    18919932 ACTCT ACTCTCT FGC5328+
    22539817 TTATA TTATATA FGC5329+

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    Hal,
    If some of the other L2* folks results don't start pouring in I'm going to have to take up another hobby. I want so badly for Rich to get his---soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwheaton View Post
    Hal,
    If some of the other L2* folks results don't start pouring in I'm going to have to take up another hobby. I want so badly for Rich to get his---soon!
    According to Leon Kull of FGC on their Facebook page "b6 ETA is 15th of April" btw. I think that is your batch. So three R1b-L2+ Z49- Z367- samples, but sadly no known others currently. It is more expensive but FGC really is a quality product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haleaton View Post
    According to Leon Kull of FGC on their Facebook page "b6 ETA is 15th of April" btw. I think that is your batch. So three R1b-L2+ Z49- Z367- samples, but sadly no known others currently. It is more expensive but FGC really is a quality product.
    Yep April 15th. I see that Tuesday is the latest ETA for Rich. Hope so!

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    I just got my big Y results. If I read it correctly, I have a total of 102 novel variants from which 99 are high confidence and 3 medium confidence . What should I do now ?
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    Assuming you are in the FTDNA U152 project, the admin will review your data and compare it with other results. Eventually you will see your kit# moved to the appropriate spot within the project pages. Took about 4 days before mine moved.

    But honestly I feel the same way....what do I do now?

    Not saying this is what you should do, but here is what I've been doing:
    1. Look at your results in google chrome with the BigY addon...it gives you more abilities to analyze your results...look at the Morley DNA experimental tree on there and the others too.
    1. Downloaded the named and novel snps from the BIGY results page.
    2. Use novel snps posted on here in some of the threads and at Britain'sDNA list http://tinyurl.com/llpuu8l to see if any of the snps showed up elsewhere; and added these snp names to my spreadsheet just so I could gain a better situational awareness of where these snps fit in to the y-tree. As I only have access to what's publically available it's all I can do on my end.

    Not sure if I'm wasting my time doing this but at least I feel like I'm doing something with my results. If nothing else I'm taking a self taught crash course in snp analysis...making many mistakes and asking lots of "dumb questions" in the process....any experts want to be my mentor?

    As mentioned in previous posts request your BAM file from the FTDNA help desk so that it can be analyzed by FGC and/or Yfull.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biloo View Post
    I just got my big Y results. If I read it correctly, I have a total of 102 novel variants from which 99 are high confidence and 3 medium confidence . What should I do now ?
    I was in the same situation (actually, 99 high and 33 medium), but couldn't do anything with them myself except wait. I requested my "BAM" file from FTDNA, and once they provided the link, forwarded it to both YFull (yfull.com) and FGC (fullgenomes.com) who were able to compare it with all the other results they have. Eventually they provided results that they will be able to use way better than I could myself, and way better than FTDNA provides. That is all that I would suggest doing.

    My 132 'novel' SNPs are now much more informative. About a hundred are not really novel, and are actually upstream of L2, 1 puts me in a select group downstream of L2* (that RR already identified) and a bunch (30+) really are unique to me. That's something that would have been nigh impossible for me to figure out without their help.

    BTW: Chris Morley and the "Morley DNA experimental tree" was designed for the Geno 2.0 results and was extremely helpful to me to identify FTDNA messing up my Geno 2.0 results. In that I think Chris has done a fantastic job, as far as it goes. However, the inclusion of his tree in the BigY addon is premature. His tree really is not designed for the BigY results and gives some really crazy results (at least for me). I would wait until he has a chance to update his tree before using it with BigY, otherwise it could be misleading. I'm sure that when he has a chance to update his tree, (and I encourage him to do so) it will reveal more than any other analysis could.

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    @MitchellSince1893 and tbartold
    Thank you very much for your posts, it helps me alot

    I have installed the big Y addon, and now I have access to the Morley DNA tree where I can see that I have a no call for L2. Do you have the same problem ?
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    In the Open Snp Trackers of the FTDNAs R1b-U152 project, it seems that I'm DF90+. A snp below L2 and parallel to Z49 and Z367. I'm not sure though. We'll see what Richard think of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biloo View Post
    In the Open Snp Trackers of the FTDNAs R1b-U152 project, it seems that I'm DF90+. A snp below L2 and parallel to Z49 and Z367. I'm not sure though. We'll see what Richard think of that.
    Interesting my Big Y did not report status on DF90 unless I missed a duplicate name. However I am DF90- in Full Genomes Data.

    Also I was a L2 No Call in Big Y. I wonder if this is a systematic error.
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