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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntergatherer1066 View Post
    I keep forgetting to post but several SNPs from my subclade of Z2534 have been added to the new version of the FTDNA Z253 SNP Pack...
    I haven't had time to check. Is version 2 of this available now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikewww View Post
    I haven't had time to check. Is version 2 of this available now?
    Yep, here are the full details:

    Includes the following SNPs on the haplotree:
    Z253, Z2201, L226, FGC8244, A14, Z2185, Z2534, FGC17449, S15280, BY157, Z18132, S7898, A494, FGC3251, FGC3221, PF825.2, FGC3222, L554, FGC3268, BY312, FGC20561, FGC20562, Z17685, S846, S845, FGC20563, L1308, S856, S844, S847, BY279, DF73, BY325, FGC20566, Z17688, FGC3249, FGC3236, S7897, BY410, A16, FGC5618, FGC5626, FGC5641, FGC5642, FGC5655, FGC5656, CTS2646, Z2184

    Includes the following SNPs that are NOT on the haplotree:
    BY127, S933, BY4221, A1002, A1040, A1041, A1046, A1048, A1054, A17, A20, A22, A277, A4661, A4662, A4664, A495, A499, A503, BY10, BY357, BY4063, BY4064, BY4065, BY4066, BY4067, BY4068, BY4069, BY4070, BY4071, BY4072, BY4073, BY4074, BY4075, BY4076, BY4077, BY4078, BY4079, BY4080, BY4081, BY4083, BY4084, BY4085, BY4086, BY4087, BY4089, BY4090, BY4220, F3590, FGC13897, FGC17434, FGC17436, FGC17448, FGC17450, FGC20559, FGC20565, FGC20567, FGC20568, FGC20571, FGC3238, FGC3244, FGC3245, FGC3247, FGC3250, FGC3252, FGC3258, FGC3263, FGC3265, FGC41890, FGC41891, FGC41892, FGC41893, FGC41894, FGC41895, FGC41896, FGC41897, FGC41898, FGC41905, FGC8533, FGC8537, FGC8539, FGC8561, PH1119, S7879, S841, S849, S850, S853, S854, S928, S932, YP4465, Z17259, Z17692, Z18133, Z2188, Z2189, Z2190, Z2191, Z2195, Z2197, Z2204, Z252, Z29748, Z29757, ZZ5_1, ZZ6_1, BY4302, BY4303, BY4304, A1057, BY4306, BY4307, BY4308

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntergatherer1066 View Post
    Yep, here are the full details:

    Includes the following SNPs on the haplotree:
    Z253, Z2201, L226, FGC8244, A14, Z2185, Z2534, FGC17449, S15280, BY157, Z18132, S7898, A494, FGC3251, FGC3221, PF825.2, FGC3222, L554, FGC3268, BY312, FGC20561, FGC20562, Z17685, S846, S845, FGC20563, L1308, S856, S844, S847, BY279, DF73, BY325, FGC20566, Z17688, FGC3249, FGC3236, S7897, BY410, A16, FGC5618, FGC5626, FGC5641, FGC5642, FGC5655, FGC5656, CTS2646, Z2184

    Includes the following SNPs that are NOT on the haplotree:
    BY127, S933, BY4221, A1002, A1040, A1041, A1046, A1048, A1054, A17, A20, A22, A277, A4661, A4662, A4664, A495, A499, A503, BY10, BY357, BY4063, BY4064, BY4065, BY4066, BY4067, BY4068, BY4069, BY4070, BY4071, BY4072, BY4073, BY4074, BY4075, BY4076, BY4077, BY4078, BY4079, BY4080, BY4081, BY4083, BY4084, BY4085, BY4086, BY4087, BY4089, BY4090, BY4220, F3590, FGC13897, FGC17434, FGC17436, FGC17448, FGC17450, FGC20559, FGC20565, FGC20567, FGC20568, FGC20571, FGC3238, FGC3244, FGC3245, FGC3247, FGC3250, FGC3252, FGC3258, FGC3263, FGC3265, FGC41890, FGC41891, FGC41892, FGC41893, FGC41894, FGC41895, FGC41896, FGC41897, FGC41898, FGC41905, FGC8533, FGC8537, FGC8539, FGC8561, PH1119, S7879, S841, S849, S850, S853, S854, S928, S932, YP4465, Z17259, Z17692, Z18133, Z2188, Z2189, Z2190, Z2191, Z2195, Z2197, Z2204, Z252, Z29748, Z29757, ZZ5_1, ZZ6_1, BY4302, BY4303, BY4304, A1057, BY4306, BY4307, BY4308
    I need to double check this but I believe this version (2) is a different cut of he Z253 tree than the original. The original was intended to cover all of Z253 as it was known at the time.

    For version 2, I think two major pieces were pulled out for separate packs but I have to double check. FTDNA did have a plan to do this but I told them if they did they needed to have all of the packs come out at the same time or there could be confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikewww View Post
    I need to double check this but I believe this version (2) is a different cut of he Z253 tree than the original. The original was intended to cover all of Z253 as it was known at the time.

    For version 2, I think two major pieces were pulled out for separate packs but I have to double check. FTDNA did have a plan to do this but I told them if they did they needed to have all of the packs come out at the same time or there could be confusion.
    Mike is correct. There will be three new SNP Pack tests covering Z253, with the current plan being to release all three at the end of the month. SNP selection has just been finalized, subject to technical considerations. One test will cover all of Z2185 and downstream SNPs, particularly L1066 and its various branches (160 SNPs). Another will cover L226. The third will cover the rest of Z253 (also 160 SNPs). FTDNA selected most of the SNPs, but some of the Z253 Project admins have been able to nominate additional SNPs; I chose 13 for the Z2185/L1066 panel, which have been added to the final list.

    A few of the SNPs chosen by FTDNA are not present in the results of any members of the Z253 Project. Presumably FTDNA discovered them in the results of some Z253+ people who have not joined the Z253 Project. Therefore we do not have any idea of their positioning on the Y-tree. However FTDNA have already started adding the SNPs in these new SNP Pack tests to the FTDNA Y-tree. Some of the SNPs included are equivalent in position to other SNPs; presumably FTDNA expect that they might not remain equivalent, but may split existing branches once more people have tested.

    I don't know what the price of each of these tests will be, but the concept is very good and should result in more branches and more accurate positioning of those who test.

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