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    Does anyone else find secondary sites more accurate than commercial tests?

    For example I find sequencing.com, geneplaza, YourDNAPortal and DNAGenics a lot more accurate than commercial tests. From my own experience. I tested with ancestry back in 2018/17 and initial report was great but with each update it got worse and worse and I eventually deleted the account. 23andme was okay but gave me a lot of unassigned European which was annoying. LivingDNA greatly over estimated my British ancestry, Iím around 30-40% British and they gave me 60%. MyHeritage I have no words for except wtf.

    However DNAGenics, Geneplaza, YourDNAPortal and Sequencing were almost perfect with what I know and they are also consistent with each other. Anybody experience this as well?

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    No. I think secondary sites dangle just enough of a carrot in front of you to lead you down a rabbit hole. Add misinformed G25 usage and suddenly people are chasing ghosts. It’s absurd. I won’t say they are all bad but I don’t think they can magically uncover some deep mystery

    While not the cheapest, get 2-3 commercial tests under your belt, look at the big picture and build a solid tree. Research > anything.

    Let me also add I thinking is importing understand how commercial tests work, and temper your expectations to match what they can deliver. Nothing is going to be as clean it as you think, dna doesn’t follow modern day borders etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    No. I think secondary sites dangle just enough of a carrot in front of you to lead you down a rabbit hole. Add misinformed G25 usage and suddenly people are chasing ghosts. It’s absurd. I won’t say they are all bad but I don’t think they can magically uncover some deep mystery

    While not the cheapest, get 2-3 commercial tests under your belt, look at the big picture and build a solid tree. Research > anything.
    I’ve taken all of the commercial tests and they all differ a lot from each other. I just got my TellMeGen results back and suddenly I’m 55% German and 0% Irish & Balkan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBA39 View Post
    I’ve taken all of the commercial tests and they all differ a lot from each other. I just got my TellMeGen results back and suddenly I’m 55% German and 0% Irish & Balkan.
    I saw a French guy scoring 99.99% German and 0% France with TellMeGen.

    BTW what exactly makes sequencing.com, geneplaza, YourDNAPortal and DNAGenics "non-commercial"? They are just as commercial as anyone else.

    Or do you perhaps mean:

    1) Commercial = company with its own lab and its own saliva test kits
    2) Non-commercial = doesn't have a lab, rely 100% on raw data transfers

    ???

    But it doesn't make sense, 2) are still commercial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I saw a French guy scoring 99.99% German and 0% France with TellMeGen.

    BTW what exactly makes sequencing.com, geneplaza, YourDNAPortal and DNAGenics "non-commercial"? They are just as commercial as anyone else.

    Or do you perhaps mean:

    1) Commercial = company with its own lab and its own saliva test kits
    2) Non-commercial = doesn't have a lab, rely 100% on raw data transfers

    ???

    But it doesn't make sense, 2) are still commercial.

    I’m not good with wording things sorry but I mean anything that’s not the most common ones that are advertised on TV.

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    G25 and Gedmatch are the best for me better then any commercial test

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    Searching for long lost ancestors in London and Ireland is like looking for needles in haystacks. London was one of the largest cities in the world and there were a gazillion ĎMarysí, ĎWilliamsí and ĎJohnsí. Ireland has a different problem because the records become patchy towards the beginning of the 19th century.

    So I canít really pin down all my ancestors, but short of shelling out thousands for a professional genealogist, I can say that my ancestry is all British and Irish over the last 150 years. Iím probably not 11% Greek, 23.3% Scandinavian or 7% Slavic. Even 5% Greek would be unlikely, since I have no matches from Greece!

    This means that MyHeritage and FTDNA must be at least somewhat inaccurate with the biggest WTF going to MyHeritage.

    G25 and Eurogenes seem to similarly place me up in the North West European cluster, but itís difficult to pinpoint minor things with them. Iím not 8.8% Basque and I donít have a Cossack great great grandfather (as far as I know).

    Which leaves AncestryDNA and 23andme, which I think are at least approaching accurate. So I think those commercial tests were most accurate. They could be partially wrong, but at least they are correct over 150 years or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Searching for long lost ancestors in London and Ireland is like looking for needles in haystacks. London was one of the largest cities in the world and there were a gazillion ‘Marys’, ‘Williams’ and ‘Johns’. Ireland has a different problem because the records become patchy towards the beginning of the 19th century.

    So I can’t really pin down all my ancestors, but short of shelling out thousands for a professional genealogist, I can say that my ancestry is all British and Irish over the last 150 years. I’m probably not 11% Greek, 23.3% Scandinavian or 7% Slavic. Even 5% Greek would be unlikely, since I have no matches from Greece!

    This means that MyHeritage and FTDNA must be at least somewhat inaccurate with the biggest WTF going to MyHeritage.

    G25 and Eurogenes seem to similarly place me up in the North West European cluster, but it’s difficult to pinpoint minor things with them. I’m not 8.8% Basque and I don’t have a Cossack great great grandfather (as far as I know).

    Which leaves AncestryDNA and 23andme, which I think are at least approaching accurate. So I think those commercial tests were most accurate. They could be partially wrong, but at least they are correct over 150 years or so.
    You get Greek with MyHeritage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBA39 View Post
    You get Greek with MyHeritage?
    11% Greek and South Italian with MyHeritage and 5% Greece and Balkans with FTDNA.

    But I don’t think either is right. I have some super distant matches in Italy, France and Spain and a couple in Eastern Europe, but none from Greece or the Balkans. I’m unsure if the matches are by chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    11% Greek and South Italian with MyHeritage and 5% Greece and Balkans with FTDNA.

    But I don’t think either is right. I have some super distant matches in Italy, France and Spain and a couple in Eastern Europe, but none from Greece or the Balkans. I’m unsure if the matches are by chance.
    That’s insane. I have Balkan ancestry yet I get no Balkan with MyHeritage and I have well over 300 Balkan matches.

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