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    E-V65 or E-V13 Question

    Hi, I got today results from Y-DNA37 and it turned for me very surprising. More than two years ago my haplogroup was determined by LivingDNA as E-V65. I'm from Poland and have expected some matches at the level of 37 markers with the subclade E-BY8823, because of a person from Poland with exactly this branch. But I don't have any matches at the level of 37 at all, some at level 12, but not one with E-V65. My matches there are mostly from E-V13 branch. What does it mean? Could it be possible, that LivingDNA determined my haplogroup wrong? I ordered already Y-DNA111, but I would like to know any opinions, of people who understand this matter better than me. Thank You in advance!

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    Hi, what are your STR values at:
    dys456
    dys389i
    dys460
    GATAH4
    dys464a
    dys439
    dys447

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    Str values

    dys456: 15, dys389i: 12, dys460: 10, GATAH4: 10, dys464a: 15, dys439: 11, dys447: 27

    Thank You for Your help Mr. Huban!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomW. View Post
    dys456: 15, dys389i: 12, dys460: 10, GATAH4: 10, dys464a: 15, dys439: 11, dys447: 27

    Thank You for Your help Mr. Huban!
    Based on these STR's that define the E-V65 (and are uncommon for V13) you seem to be 100 % V65+. So a confirmation of your LivingDNA result.

    You're welcome!

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    Thank You again!!!!
    But still wonder about none of matches at 37 marker level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huban View Post
    Based on these STR's that define the E-V65 (and are uncommon for V13) you seem to be 100 % V65+. So a confirmation of your LivingDNA result.

    You're welcome!
    I got my BigY results and I'm E-CTS194 subclade of E-V65. No matches at all, but I expected it before No idea, if this haplogroup was in Europe from ancient times or it arrived recently from North Africa. Mysterious but very cool

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    It seems you will belong to an European downstream of E-CTS194 with German guys with formation age ~ 2 kyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farroukh View Post
    It seems you will belong to an European downstream of E-CTS194 with German guys with formation age ~ 2 kyo
    Sorry for my ignorance, but are You refering to those Germans with E-Y95279 under my E-CTS194? If I understand it right, my final SNP is older and I'm not positive with E-Y95279. It seems for me that all the European subclades of E-V65 are older than those from North Africa. I'm not an expert, only try to understand how or when my haplogroup came to South Poland. It's for me very intriguing, because both MyHeritage and 23&me detected small autosomal segments from North Africa, also Italian and Cypriot (23&me). FTDNA even gave me 6% Sardinian. I thought it's because my maternal Ashkenazi ancestry, but I tested my paternal cousin recently and he got also small Cypriot autosomal segment according to 23&me.

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    my final SNP is older and I'm not positive with E-Y95279
    It seems you are right. Look at the live-vesrion:


    Perhaps, later you will be classified as an existing branch member. Let us wait for a while.

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    Yeah, waiting for the next update !

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