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    HBA39's results and discussion thread

    Hi Iím new to this and I recently transferred my data to YourDNAPortal but I donít have a clue what their oracle numbers indicate or mean. Any help would be appreciated

    EuTest:
    Closest population distances.
    AT - 1.194472
    Serbian - 1.309107
    DE - 1.508956
    HU - 1.52405
    FR - 1.576988
    RO - 1.594594
    NL - 1.664142
    PT - 1.723907
    Population Percentages.
    AT 21
    Serbian 18.6
    Cornish 3.8
    PT 3.8
    Scottish 3.2
    English 3.2

    K13
    Closest Population Distances.
    Austrian - 1.232863
    Hungarian - 1.2430078
    Serbian - 1.284814
    West German - 1.312535
    South Dutch - 1.486117
    East German - 1.486497
    French - 1.544173
    Romanian - 1.576278
    Population Percentages.
    Serbian 19.8
    West German 18
    Hungarian 14
    West Scottish 3.2

    EUTest k15
    Closest Population Distances.
    Serbian - 1.198705
    Austrian - 1.238858
    BR2 - 1.390192
    Hungarian - 1.392787
    South Dutch - 1.404689
    French - 1.431409
    West German - 1.47393
    East German - 1.498489
    Population Percentages.
    Serbian 24.6
    Austrian 11.6
    South Dutch 5.2
    West German 5.2
    French 3.8

    JTest
    Closest Population Distances.
    AT - 1.249536
    Serbian - 1.322104
    West & Central German - 1.507767
    HU - 1.556737
    FR - 1.611743
    RO - 1.61936
    NL - 1.662394
    Cornish - 1.751094
    Population Percentages.
    Serbian 33.8
    West & Central German 7.2
    Cornish 5.2
    Orcadian 4.8
    PT 4.2

    MDLP World 22.
    Closest Population Distances.
    Macedonian - 0.830247
    Bulgarian - 0.891093
    Serbian - 0.94454
    Montenegrin - 1.01168
    Gagauz - 1.017176
    Romania - 1.091235
    Bosnian - 1.1756
    Croatian - 1.386844
    Population Percentages.
    Macedonian 42.6
    Romania 1.6
    Slovakia 1.6

    MDLP World 16.
    Closest Population Distances.
    Moldavian - 0.467125
    Croat_2 - 0.437061
    Croat - 0.476358
    Serbian - 0.480975
    Bosnian - 0.505072
    Austrian - 0.588512
    Romanian - 0.620257
    Slovakian - 0.630669
    Population Percentages.
    Moldavian 31.8
    Croatian 18.8
    Serbian 14.6
    Hungarian 1.6

    Kurdish
    Closest Population Distances.
    English - 2.460471
    Romanian - 2.664807
    Hungarian - 2.758039
    French - 2.841732
    Norwegian - 3.002449
    Italian North - 3.084879
    Croatian - 3.133965
    Czech - 3.334432
    Population Percentage.
    English 32.6
    Norwegian 9.2
    Romanian 5.2
    Hungarian 4.8
    Albanian 2.4
    Croatian 2.4

    Ancient Near East
    Closest Population Distances.
    Romanian - 0.633392
    Bulgarian - 0.784318
    Croatian - 0.833928
    Hungarian - 0.913062
    French - 1.013723
    Scottish - 1.253626
    English - 1.256095
    Albanian - 1.29842
    Population Percentages.
    Romanian 43.4
    Hungarian 6.4
    Scottish 4.2
    Russian 4
    English 3.4

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    those are just the calculator averaging out your data an placing you in one group from the aggregate of your data. i'm quite the layman but the best I can explain this is if you have some of #1 and some of #10 in equal portions, the model will say you are #5 as a best fit. i'd suggest as would most on here to get your G25 coordinates so you can plug them into the Vahaduo model using scads of population choices.

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    Interpreting ancient K36 results

    These are my results from YourDNAPortals ancient K36 calculator. Would anyone be able to tell me what this means please. Thanks.


    I1767_Beaker_Britain 12.6
    BA_Unetice__Germany_I0116 12.2
    I1767_EarlyBronze_Age_Briton 7.2
    MBA_Ireland_Rathlin 3.6
    BA_Unetice_Germany_I0047 3
    CL63_Alpine 2.8
    LNBA_Urnfield_Germany_I0099 2.6
    Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0112 2
    DA191_Hungary_Scythian 2
    CL47_Alpine 1.8
    CWC_Estonia_Sope_MA826 1.8
    BA_Srubnaya_I0359 1.6
    CWC_Germany_I0108 1.6
    CWC_Denmark_RISE61 1.2
    Gepid_Vim21.2
    I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD 1.2
    SZ45_Pannonian1.2
    BA_Srubnaya_I0235 1
    CHL_Yamnaya_Samara_I0439 1
    Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_1
    Scythian009_Ukraine 1
    SZ36_north-Italian 1
    SZ43_north-Italian 1
    BA_Hungary_RISE479 0.8
    Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE566 0.8
    Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0171 0.8
    CL38_Greek_south-Italian 0.8
    CWC_Germany_I0111 0.8
    EMA_Alpine_AED_513 0.8
    I10851_medieval_Catalonia 0.8
    BA_Andronovo_RISE500 0.6
    BA_Hungary_BR2 0.6
    CL121__north-Italian 0.6
    DA112_Hallstatt-Bylany_800BC 0.6
    Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ 0.6
    EMA_Greek-Balkan_AEH_1 0.6
    I10892_Catalonia_medieval 0.6
    I3874_Beaker_South_France 0.6
    Aborigine_Australia 0.4
    BA_Hungary_RISE371 0.4
    BA_Poltavka_I0432_outlier 0.4
    BA_Sintashta_RISE394 0.4
    BA_Srubnaya_I0358 0.4
    BA_Sydon 0.4
    Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0059 0.4
    Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0113 0.4
    Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0806 0.4
    CHL_Armenia_I1631 0.4
    CHL_Iran_I1662 0.4
    CWC_Germany_I0106 0.4
    DA29_Golden-Horde_European 0.4
    EBA_Jordan__I1730 0.4
    I0595_Kenya_400BP 0.4
    I0867_Levant_PPNB 0.4
    i3808_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD 0.4
    IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 0.4
    Kivutkalns_153_Latvia_BA 0.4
    Mesolithic_Sweden_Ajvide58 0.4
    MN_Latvia__Zvej26 0.4
    N_Anatolia_I0707 0.4
    N_Anatolia_I0708_BAR6 0.4
    N_Bar8_Anatolia 0.4
    N_Levant__AinGhazal3 0.4
    SZ19_Italian-Balkan 0.4
    SZ37_Greek-Italian 0.4
    BA_Afanasievo_511 0.2
    BA_Andronovo_RISE505 0.2
    BA_Hungary_RISE484 0.2
    BA_I0073_Minoan 0.2
    BA_I9006_Mycenean 0.2
    BA_I9010_Mycenaean 0.2
    BA_I9033_Mycenaean 0.2
    BA_I9041_Mycenaean 0.2
    BA_Karasuk_RISE502 0.2
    BA_Levant_I0867 0.2
    BA_Okunevo_RISE516 0.2
    BA_Potapovka_I0419 0.2
    BA_Sintashta_RISE395 0.2
    BA_Srubnaya_I0232 0.2
    BA_Srubnaya_I0430 0.2
    BA_Unetice_Poland_RISE139 0.2
    baa001_South_Africa_2000bp 0.2
    Bell_Beaker_Germany__RISE560_ 0.2
    C1_Nepal_Chokhopani_2700BP 0.2
    CHL_Anatolian_I1584 0.2
    CHL_Armenia_I1632 0.2
    CHL_Iran_I1674 0.2
    CL25_south_Italian 0.2
    CL31_Greek_Balkan 0.2
    Crimean_Goth_Ker_1 0.2
    CWC_Germany_I0049 0.2
    DA171_Lithuania_350650AD 0.2
    DA179_Kipchak 0.2
    DA228_Turk_Central_Steppe 0.2
    DA43_XiongNu_Han_Chinese 0.2
    EBA_Poland_N17 0.2
    EHG_I0124_Samara 0.2
    EHG_OleniyOstrov_I0061 0.2
    EIA_F38_Iran 0.2
    EMA_Alpine_STR_310 0.2
    EMA_Alpine_STR_535 0.2
    EMA_Greek-Balkan_AED_1108 0.2
    EMA_north-Italian_FN_2 0.2
    EN_Anatolia_Tep003 0.2
    I1152_Israel_chalcolithic 0.2
    I3578_EMA_Andalusia 0.2
    I4070_Netherlands_BA 0.2
    I5385_Scotland_Bell_Beaker 0.2
    i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD 0.2
    IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23 0.2
    La727_WGC_Laos_BA 0.2
    LN_Iran_I1671_Gabi 0.2
    MA2196_Ottoman_14001600 0.2
    MBA_Armenia_RISE413 0.2
    Mesolithic_CCC_EstoniaKudrukula2_MA974 0.2
    Mesolithic_Hungary_KO1 0.2
    Mesolithic_Latvia_HG1 0.2
    Mesolithic_Spain_LaBrana 0.2
    Mesolithic_Sweden_Ajvide70 0.2
    Mesolithic_Sweden_Motala012 0.2
    N_Anatolia_I0708 0.2
    N_Anatolia_I0709_BAR20 0.2
    N_Bar31_Anatolia 0.2
    N_Levant_AinGhazal4 0.2
    N_Levant_AinGhazal5 0.2
    Natufian__1072 0.2
    Niederstotzingen_Alemmani_9 0.2
    Sungir6_Medieval_Russia 0.2
    SZ40_Italian 0.2
    TAF009_Iberomaurasian 0.2
    Turlojiske1_Lithuania_BA 0.2

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    H1a1

    Sweden Italy Italy 1861-1946 Sami Vatican Italy Tuscany
    It does not mean anything.
    I would recommend you to download AdmixtureStudio - More calculators and better results.

    Or try Vahaduo Gedmatch?
    Hidden Content


    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 1.6700% / 0.01669968 | R3P
    53.6 Goth_Kowalewko = Germanic
    39.2 Levant_LBN_MA_o6 = South Euro
    7.2 RUS_Khaptsagai_IA = Steppe + Siberian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    It does not mean anything.
    I would recommend you to download AdmixtureStudio - More calculators and better results.

    Or try Vahaduo Gedmatch?
    Does it cost to use AdmixtureStudio?

    Edit: I had a quick look and I think it’s too complicated for me Lol. I’m happy just sticking with YourDNAPortal. Thank you for your help
    Last edited by HBA39; 02-13-2021 at 12:07 PM.

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    MDLP World 22 results

    Here are mine.

    Closest Population Distances.
    Macedonian 0.830274
    Bulgarian 0.891093
    Serbian 0.94454
    Montenegrin 1.01168
    Gagauz 1.017176
    Romania 1.091235
    Bosnian 1.1756
    Croatian 1.3686844

    Admix 2 Oracle
    Italian-South 50
    Mordovian 50

    Admix 4 Oracle
    German South 25
    Jewish_Syria 25
    Komi 25
    Slovakia 25

    Admix 10 Oracle
    Jewish_Algeria 20
    CEU 10
    Lithuania 10
    Romania 10
    Russian_South 10
    Swiss 10
    Tatar_crim 10
    Udmurd 10
    Ukrainian center 10

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    Closest population distances
    Population
    Distance
    Sorb
    0.531437
    Ukrainian-Center
    0.544476
    Ukrainian-West
    0.553828
    Belarusian_V
    0.55563
    Ukrainian_V
    0.575112
    Slovakian
    0.681942
    Polish_V
    0.693084
    Russian_cossack
    0.764961


    Population
    Value
    Belarusian_V
    29.6
    Ukrainian-Center
    21.2
    Polish_V
    8.8
    Czech
    3.8
    Lithuanian_V
    3.8
    German-North
    2.8
    Latvian
    2.8
    German
    2.2
    Slovenian
    2.2
    CEU_V
    2
    Finnish-South
    1.8
    Norwegian_V
    1.8
    Polish
    1.8
    Swedish_V
    1.8
    Estonian
    1.4
    Welsh
    1.4
    German_V
    1.2
    Swedish
    1.2
    Karelian
    1
    Slovakian
    1
    Austrian
    0.8
    British
    0.6
    French
    0.6
    Inkeri
    0.6
    Orcadian
    0.6
    Croatian
    0.4
    Finnish-North
    0.4
    German-South
    0.4
    Vepsa
    0.4
    CEU
    0.2
    Corsican
    0.2
    Finnish
    0.2
    Hungarian
    0.2
    Italian_North
    0.2
    Provancestralal
    0.2
    Pygmy
    0.2
    Swiss
    0.2

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    England Ireland Connacht East Anglia England North of England United Kingdom Ireland
    It doesn't seem to be able to distinguish North East and North West European for me:

    Admix 2 Oracle
    Population
    Value
    French
    50
    Ukrainian-West
    50

    Admix 4 Oracle
    Population
    Value
    British
    25
    French
    25
    German_V
    25
    Russian_South
    25

    Admix 10% - min
    Population
    Value
    German-North
    20
    Russian_South
    20
    Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic
    10
    British
    10
    Mordovian
    10
    Norwegian_V
    10
    Romania
    10
    Ukrainian-Center
    10

    Population
    Value
    German_V
    70.6
    British
    5
    Welsh
    4.6
    CEU
    4
    German
    2.6
    German-North
    2
    Basque
    1.8
    Orcadian
    1.4
    Slovakian
    1.2
    CEU_V
    1
    North-East-European
    0.6
    Polish
    0.6
    Ukrainian-East
    0.6
    Austrian
    0.4
    Lithuanian
    0.4
    Mordovian_V
    0.4
    Russian_Center
    0.4
    Russian_cossack
    0.4
    Russian_South
    0.4
    Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic
    0.2
    Belarusian_V
    0.2
    French
    0.2
    Gok4
    0.2
    Komi
    0.2
    Polish_V
    0.2
    Slovenian
    0.2
    Ukrainian
    0.2

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    mtDNA (M)
    H11a2a

    United States of America Germany England France Scotland Ireland
    I agree with Nino90 this isn't too meaningful. Eurogenes K36 wasn't created to be used this way. Here is a thread I started to demonstrate something like the usage for which it was intended:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post165530

    Unfortunately, a lot of people miss the uses of admixture tests in the attempt to use them for modeling. I routinely see people posting models created from admixture results without even posting the primary output, which are the admixture results.

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    Ireland
    Ethnicity
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    Y-DNA (P)
    L21>FGC6545>Y160102
    mtDNA (M)
    H6a1b2h
    mtDNA (P)
    H27e

    Ireland Ireland Connacht Ireland County Roscommon Ireland County Galway Ireland County Mayo
    Closest population distances
    Population Distance
    CEU_V 0.428
    German_V 0.433
    Austrian 0.571
    Welsh 0.609
    Norwegian_V 0.648
    German-North 0.670
    Swedish 0.677
    CEU 0.699

    Admix 2 Oracle
    Population Value
    French 50
    Ukrainian-Center 50

    Admix 4 Oracle
    Population Value
    German-North 25
    Norwegian_V 25
    Romania 25
    Swedish_V 25

    Admix 10% - min
    Population Value
    Ukrainian-Center 30
    Welsh 20
    British 10
    French 10
    Gok4 10
    Inkeri 10
    Latvian_V 10
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (UŪ Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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