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    You can by through https://illustrativedna.com/ your coordinates will arrive in couple days but you have to wait a bit longer for the report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leper View Post
    You can by through https://illustrativedna.com/ your coordinates will arrive in couple days but you have to wait a bit longer for the report.
    I've already read the section on their site about the raw data files that they accept but do you know if they can accept an "all SNPs" raw data file produced from WGS test data using WGSextract ?
    If not, what's the next best alternative ? 23andMe v3, AncestryDNA v1 or something else ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    I've already read the section on their site about the raw data files that they accept but do you know if they can accept an "all SNPs" raw data file produced from WGS test data using WGSextract ?
    If not, what's the next best alternative ? 23andMe v3, AncestryDNA v1 or something else ?
    WGS files need to be properly converted into 23andme or FTDNA format. Other than that it's up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    I've already read the section on their site about the raw data files that they accept but do you know if they can accept an "all SNPs" raw data file produced from WGS test data using WGSextract ?
    If not, what's the next best alternative ? 23andMe v3, AncestryDNA v1 or something else ?

    23andme V3 has almost identical, if not entirely identical, results/distances to the full SNP file, in my experience with G25.
    dosas: 56.25% Greek_Macedonia + 43.75% Greek_Trabzon @ 1.769
    wife: 50% English + 50% Irish @ 1.837
    kid1: 56.25% English + 43.75% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1.817
    kid2: 56.25% English_Cornwall + 43.75% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1.866

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    G25 can be imitated with basic software but there is no guarantee you're paying for anything that is an accurate imitation.
    For example here's PC1 of G25 with distances to -1 for select populations.

    Distance to: -1
    0.42291700 Dinka
    0.70337710 Somali
    0.95401560 Papuan
    1.01923600 Ami
    1.06601720 Hazara
    1.13185510 English

    This one differentiates Africans from Europeans. Since I don't know the specific details involved I can only do a basic imitation, mapped to the same range for clarity.

    Distance to: -1
    0.42291700 Dinka.DG
    0.60834545 Somali.DG
    0.71195015 Papuan.DG
    0.78126544 Ami.DG
    0.92163187 Hazara.DG
    1.13185510 English.DG

    We have no idea if this company is even trying to do an accurate imitation. They could just be generating pseudo-coordinates by mapping some calculator results to modern population averages. Someone mentioned lower distances with their coords and that is a red flag for such a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standardized Ape View Post
    G25 can be imitated with basic software but there is no guarantee you're paying for anything that is an accurate imitation.
    For example here's PC1 of G25 with distances to -1 for select populations.

    Distance to: -1
    0.42291700 Dinka
    0.70337710 Somali
    0.95401560 Papuan
    1.01923600 Ami
    1.06601720 Hazara
    1.13185510 English

    This one differentiates Africans from Europeans. Since I don't know the specific details involved I can only do a basic imitation, mapped to the same range for clarity.

    Distance to: -1
    0.42291700 Dinka.DG
    0.60834545 Somali.DG
    0.71195015 Papuan.DG
    0.78126544 Ami.DG
    0.92163187 Hazara.DG
    1.13185510 English.DG

    We have no idea if this company is even trying to do an accurate imitation. They could just be generating pseudo-coordinates by mapping some calculator results to modern population averages. Someone mentioned lower distances with their coords and that is a red flag for such a scam.
    Why? Maybe their coordinates will be accurate. I ordered a report from them, it will be first ancient report for me. I will judge my coordinates later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariusz95 View Post
    Why? Maybe their coordinates will be accurate. I ordered a report from them, it will be first ancient report for me. I will judge my coordinates later.
    You probably don't know how to judge coordinates if you think low distance equals good. They can probably generate some coordinates that match your general ethnicity unless they are totally incompetent but fine structure is important too.

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