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    I heard back from the man today. He had a y-dna test with Ancestry some years ago, it turns out. I sent him my first 12 markers (in FTDNA order), identified by each marker name, and asked him to compare the results to see if we match. It turns out we differ at several places, although he does appear to be R1b. If he is right about his y-dna descent from Evan Stephens, then I am not a y-dna descendant of Evan Stephens. However, he was a bit hesitant and equivocal in his initial response to my query, qualifying his answer to my question about whether or not he is a direct y-dna descendant of Evan Stephens with a somewhat tentative, "If all my research is correct".

    The lady who responded to my query seemed more certain, identifying Evan Stephens as her fifth great grandfather. I would still like to get a 12-marker y-dna test from one of her brothers, just to be sure.

    I like to think that I am able to see things as they are, not how I want them to be, so I am thinking this is probably a dead end for me, but I will still pay for a 12-marker test for one of that lady's four brothers, if she ever emails me back and accepts the offer.
     


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    I just heard late last night from a woman who is a Stephens and a direct descendant of Evan Stephens. She gave me the name of an elderly male second cousin who might be interested in testing, so I sent him an email. We'll see. The man I mentioned above whose first 12 markers don't match mine said he is only about 90% sure that he is descended from Evan. He doesn't really have a solid paper trail to him but can solidly trace his own pedigree to a Benjamin Stephens. There was a Benjamin Stephens who was a son of Evan Stephens. That leaves a fairly big window of doubt, so I will keep trying for now. It may be a dead end, but it's worth a try.
     


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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I just heard late last night from a woman who is a Stephens and a direct descendant of Evan Stephens. She gave me the name of an elderly male second cousin who might be interested in testing, so I sent him an email. We'll see . . .
    Hey! Good news for me (I hope)!

    I heard from the elderly y-dna descendant of Evan Stephens, and he has agreed to submit to a y-dna test.

    I will pay for it once FTDNA gets his sample.

    Too bad FTDNA's system is down right now. I want to get the order in right away.

    If the man I mentioned earlier who does not match me at 12 markers is right in his genealogical research, then this elderly gentleman will not match me but will match him. Obviously, I would prefer that he match me, but either way I am performing a service and either confirming an ancestry or eliminating it for one of us.
     


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    Dad's mtDNA: K1a1

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    Okay, I ordered a 12-marker test for Mr. Stephens and paid for the postage both ways up front, so all he has to do is collect the samples, seal them in the envelope, and drop the envelope in a mail box. Man, I hope he matches me! I don't like disappointment, especially when I pay money for it.

    Either way, once his results come in, I'll know more than I do now.

    I had to actually telephone FTDNA to order a 12-marker test. I could not see a way to do it from my GAP. I asked the FTDNA rep how to do it, and she said you have to call to order a 12-marker test now.
     


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    Dad's mtDNA: K1a1

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Okay, I ordered a 12-marker test for Mr. Stephens and paid for the postage both ways up front, so all he has to do is collect the samples, seal them in the envelope, and drop the envelope in a mail box. Man, I hope he matches me! I don't like disappointment, especially when I pay money for it.

    Either way, once his results come in, I'll know more than I do now.

    I had to actually telephone FTDNA to order a 12-marker test. I could not see a way to do it from my GAP. I asked the FTDNA rep how to do it, and she said you have to call to order a 12-marker test now.
    It looks like you are getting what you want sooner than you think. Now, fingers still crossed that he does indeed match you!

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    I will update this thread when the result comes in. I fear the worst, since, as I mentioned back in post #21 above, there is a man who claims descent from Evan Stephens who does not match me at 12 markers. He is not 100% sure of the claim, but if he is right about it, he should match the man I have recruited for testing, and I won't. We'll see. I just want the truth, but I hope the truth makes things easy this time (it seldom does), and I get an exact match.
     


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    Dad's mtDNA: K1a1

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    I know I have probably bored everyone to tears already with my updates, but here is one more: Mr. Stephens got the kit, did the test, and mailed it back to FTDNA today. Now we wait.
     


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    Interestingly, I got a new exact 12-marker match yesterday with a man with my surname. I still get excited about exact 12-marker matches - if the match has my surname. Last night I emailed the woman in charge of the kit. Hopefully, I will hear from her soon. I'm thinking these are just the first 12 markers in a more extensive test they have on order, probably at least 37 markers. We'll see!
     


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    Dad's mtDNA: K1a1

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Interestingly, I got a new exact 12-marker match yesterday with a man with my surname. I still get excited about exact 12-marker matches - if the match has my surname. Last night I emailed the woman in charge of the kit. Hopefully, I will hear from her soon. I'm thinking these are just the first 12 markers in a more extensive test they have on order, probably at least 37 markers. We'll see!
    Wow, lucky you. I'd be doing cartwheels if my brother actually got at least one match with our surname! Over at 23andme you can search the database for surnames, and I found a man with our last name, but it looks like he also goes by a different last name too. I'm not sure if my surname is his original, or if it was his mother's. I sent an invite to share, unfortunately he did not match me at all, and his Y DNA is R1b. He never answered me back about if my last name was his original last name, or what. I guess I was just lucky he agreed to share.
    Last edited by TŠltos; 08-17-2014 at 01:47 PM.

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    I think whoever my immigrant y-dna ancestor was, he was pretty prolific. Matches with folks with my surname or the variant Stephens seem to pop up fairly frequently. I had one awhile back who just never answered my emails. I just don't understand that. Why test if you're not looking for genealogical connections, i.e., relatives who might have useful information?

    I have not yet heard from this most recent match, but it just popped up yesterday.
     


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    Dad's mtDNA: K1a1

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