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    Ultimate World Deep Ancestry Scaled Calculator

    My most recent Global25 scaled calculator. It is aimed to be a calculator for every human population since the Neolithic times. All the source populations are totally ancient genomes. The average results of the populations have been used except the source population for the Indus Valley Culture, for which I have used the Indus Valley Periphery sample with the highest AASI ancestry (IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728) following Davidski's practice. The calculator is available on GenoPlot as well.

    Feel free to share your results.

    Modern population average results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...kB8/edit#gid=0

    And here is the datasheet:

    Code:
    Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva,0.1320347,0.1106928,0.1803263,0.1842187,0.1199712,0.0524315,0.0108103,0.0286143,0.0592778,-0.019074,-0.0055213,-0.0195077,0.0273783,0.0045643,0.0325728,0.0470032,0.0035857,0.0052997,-0.0064943,0.0436457,0.0663412,0.0077283,-0.0292508,-0.1139918,0.0110567
    Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
    Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
    Levant_Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer_Levant_Natufian,0.01935,0.135065,-0.039221,-0.135984,0.026774,-0.076137,-0.019036,-0.024691,0.100626,-0.008018,0.02858,-0.019633,0.067343,0.001651,0.022801,0.02612,-0.0103,0.006714,-0.018101,0.041395,-0.004118,-0.003215,-0.014297,-0.011206,0.011975
    Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB,0.0725625,0.1650235,-0.0309238,-0.1380835,0.0323138,-0.062541,-0.012103,-0.0141338,0.0735775,0.0367207,0.0194055,-0.0170098,0.036459,-0.000241,-0.021342,0.0067288,0.0089638,-0.0013935,-0.0054052,0.0192277,-0.0037435,0.007852,-0.0014175,-0.0062658,-0.0047002
    Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
    Amur_Basin_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0162197,-0.4440402,0.0722185,-0.0511148,-0.0373912,-0.0395328,0.0034075,0.0084802,0.0064935,0.019408,-0.048595,-0.004833,-0.0030848,0.0086702,-0.0096025,-0.0133915,-0.0007825,0.0089,0.0174408,0.0100362,0.008828,-0.027729,-0.0174702,-0.00244,-0.0145795
    West_Siberia_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Tyumen_HG,0.103579,-0.059916,0.100314,0.202199,-0.091094,0.044901,-0.048882,-0.054921,-0.035178,-0.090571,0.028093,-0.011989,0.02661,-0.077619,0.028637,0.01485,-0.015646,-0.004814,-0.004399,0.001376,-0.025705,0.011747,0.02465,0.00976,-0.013053
    Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
    West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
    Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.089028,0.0426986,0.1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
    Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA,0.034147,-0.421445,0.150471,-0.002907,-0.14495,-0.082273,0.019741,0.035998,0.02577,0.000364,0.083792,-3e-04,0.015758,-0.048994,-0.04343,-0.029833,0.000652,0.005574,0.004902,-0.012381,0.026453,0.003462,0.001725,0.00723,0.012813
    East_Africa_Hunter_Gatherer_ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
    South_Africa_Hunter-Gatherer_ZAF_2100BP,-0.639686,0.058901,0.025644,0.041344,-0.00277,-0.002789,0.267912,-0.20653,0.011658,0.016766,0.002761,-0.06744,-0.01888,0.005092,0.026058,-0.013392,0.031944,0.289737,-0.092137,0.003752,-0.035188,-0.000495,0.002835,-0.000843,-0.00934
    Southeast_Asia_Hoabinhian_Hunter-Gatherer_LAO_Hoabinhian,-0.025041,-0.224432,-0.11917,0.087856,0.022466,-0.001952,-0.003055,0.01223,0.060539,0.018406,0.012829,0.001199,-0.000446,0.006055,-0.007872,-0.006364,-0.00352,-0.00076,-0.005531,0.023386,0.006988,0.013107,-0.017131,-0.001325,0.003712
    North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N,0.01935,-0.444802,0.032432,-0.062339,0.012618,0.002789,0.009635,0.003,-0.007772,0.008201,-0.074861,-0.009891,0.009812,-0.008533,-0.010315,-0.005701,-0.004042,0.003801,-0.000377,-0.002126,0.013726,0.003215,0.005793,-0.005543,-0.005628
    South_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Liangdao2_N,0.006829,-0.407227,-0.052043,-0.040052,0.112944,0.045459,0.00141,-0.004384,-0.005931,-0.008565,0.034589,0.003747,-0.010406,0.001927,0.007736,0.012066,0.00352,0.004814,0.005028,-0.00988,0.007237,-0.011005,0.013188,-0.01687,-0.02874
    Japan_Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer_JPN_Jomon,0.011003,-0.3440953,-0.0537398,0.0124893,0.038161,0.0139448,-0.0020758,-0.0015383,0.024577,0.0205622,-0.049718,-0.0068938,0.0096878,-0.0069958,-0.023819,-0.0154467,0.006454,0.0099242,0.0024722,-0.0060655,0.0639705,-0.0456895,0.0091615,0.0112062,-0.0994323
    Australian_Aborigine_AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP,-0.042115,-0.224432,-0.205154,0.215442,0.145566,-0.322398,-0.007285,0.014538,-0.000818,0.003098,-0.004872,-0.002248,0.004311,-0.001239,-0.008415,-0.000796,0.004694,-0.001774,-0.01169,-0.003377,0.003369,-0.006801,-0.000863,-0.001928,-0.00946
    Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
    West_Africa_Hunter-Gatherer_CMR_Shum_Laka_3000BP,-0.6129375,0.0528075,0.013765,0.0272935,0.000769,-0.001813,0.1482915,-0.1137645,0.00542,0.004374,-0.001056,-0.0400145,-0.025272,0.0019955,0.008279,-0.0068285,0.005802,0.016153,-0.0067245,0.0010005,-0.001934,-0.0020405,-0.00456,0.000482,-0.006586
    Tibetan_Plateau_Late_Neolithic_NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP,0.012521,-0.410274,-0.011691,-0.031331,0.017542,0.011435,0.00658,0.011999,0.010022,0.021139,-0.081194,-0.006444,0.010109,-0.004679,-0.011401,0,0.011213,-0.001267,-0.009302,0.009379,0.004991,0.029306,0.004314,0.003615,0.031734
    Papuan-Melanesian_VUT_2300BP_all,-0.039838,-0.227479,-0.231552,0.254202,0.176648,-0.406901,0.00188,0.003,-0.025975,-0.010752,-0.00065,0.004646,0.000297,-0.001651,-0.001493,-0.002519,-0.005867,-0.007981,-0.002011,0.003877,0.008235,-0.004946,-0.003081,-0.001084,-0.010897
    Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
    Nilotic_Pastoralist_KEN_Kakapel_900BP,-0.513342,0.05687,-0.010936,-0.00969,-0.007386,-0.013666,-0.00658,0.014769,0.075674,-0.113898,-0.032478,0.028924,-0.049207,-0.010046,0.015065,-0.020419,0.018645,-0.000507,0.022877,-0.027138,-0.002496,0.007172,-0.027238,-0.000241,0.004071
    West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP,-0.6231815,0.058393,0.019422,0.018088,0.0007695,0.0133865,-0.007168,0.0170765,-0.035587,0.017495,0.0048715,-0.002248,-0.0031215,-0.0052985,-0.0021715,0.0088835,-0.0058675,-0.004941,-0.0042735,0.0078785,0.0061765,-0.0012985,0.002465,-0.0030125,0.0029935
    Holocene_Beringian_RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven,0.0473788,-0.3565142,0.1162946,0.0476627,-0.1192914,-0.0389401,-0.1203988,-0.1403451,0.0007669,-0.0159799,0.0248759,-0.0064443,0.0098394,-0.0182608,-0.0336502,-0.0148834,-0.0021595,0.0124076,0.0327128,0.0197752,0.0262272,-0.0441054,0.0074489,0.0281062,0.0383199
    Southeast_Asia_Neolithic_Farmer_VNM_N,0,-0.386917,-0.064865,-0.031008,0.134333,0.06038,0.0036425,-0.010961,-0.0138055,-0.014579,0.0695835,-0.001499,-0.002007,0.001376,0.0169655,-0.0031155,-0.0011085,0.00076,-0.0020115,0.01532,-0.0034935,0.0084085,0.0030195,-0.0063865,0.034009
    Last edited by GTC; 04-23-2021 at 03:34 PM. Reason: By OP request: Corrrected POP label South_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Liangdao2_N
    Hidden Content

    Own Y-DNA: R1b>P312>U152>L2>Z41150>DF90>FGC14641>FGC32042>FGC 32049; Nigde, Turkey
    Own mtDNA: X2e2a3; Drama, Greece
    Maternal Y-DNA: R1a>Y40>YP294>BY90442; Razgrad, Bulgaria
    Father's mtDNA: T2b; Nigde, Turkey
    Paternal grandfather's mtDNA: H2a1; Nigde, Turkey
    Maternal grandfather's mtDNA: H5o; Razgrad, Bulgaria
    Father's maternal Y-DNA: R1b>P312>U152>L2>Z41150>DF90>FGC14641>FGC32042; Nigde, Turkey

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  3. #2
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    Y-DNA (P)
    R-L2 / R1b-U152
    mtDNA (M)
    H1a1

    Sweden Italy Italy 1861-1946 Sami Vatican Italy Tuscany
    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.4848% / 0.03484769
    40.6 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    39.6 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    18.2 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.8 North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
    0.8 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoy
    What is the main difference between WHG and Baltic HG?

    Target: Brother_scaled
    Distance: 3.2599% / 0.03259895
    42.4 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    37.0 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    18.0 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    1.6 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    1.0 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_B
    I don't know if this Moroccan is real. Is it possible for North Italians to have Moroccan component?

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.2891% / 0.02289114
    44.6 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    37.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    12.2 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    1.8 North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
    1.8 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    1.6 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
    1.0 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    My father has lower abount of Moroccan farmer. That does not really make sense.
    Interesting that he however have some WHG instead of Baltic HG.
    May come from his Italian ancestry?



    Swedes:

    Target: Mother_scaled
    Distance: 3.8595% / 0.03859493
    44.6 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    32.6 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    22.8 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    Target: Saami-Swedish_relative_scaled
    Distance: 3.4125% / 0.03412549
    44.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    26.4 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    21.4 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    8.2 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    Target: Wife_scaled
    Distance: 4.0377% / 0.04037693
    46.4 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    30.2 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    23.4 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    Hidden Content

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.1640% / 0.03163963 | R3P
    64.4 __Germanic
    26.4 __IllyricRoman
    9.2 __Finnic

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  5. #3
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    H1a1

    Sweden Italy Italy 1861-1946 Sami Vatican Italy Tuscany
    Related to my ancestry:


    Target: Italian_Tuscany
    Distance: 1.8751% / 0.01875145
    57.4 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    32.8 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    3.2 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
    2.8 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    2.0 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    1.2 Levant_Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer_Levant_Natufian
    0.6 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG
    Tuscan Average.

    Around 6 % Non European admixture.

    Make sense with the Roman empire or possible earlier migrations into Italy.

    Where is the huge Levantine + Iranian impact that some people on this forum claim?



    Target: Saami
    Distance: 3.3912% / 0.03391243
    38.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    25.2 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    23.0 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    10.4 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    3.4 West_Siberia_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Tyumen_HG

    Target: Swedish
    Distance: 4.2839% / 0.04283943
    44.6 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    33.8 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    21.6 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    Hidden Content

    Target: Nino_scaled
    Distance: 3.1640% / 0.03163963 | R3P
    64.4 __Germanic
    26.4 __IllyricRoman
    9.2 __Finnic

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  7. #4
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    NW Europe+Ash/Seph Jewish

    England Star of David Netherlands Turkey Denmark Germany
    Nice one

    Target: passenger_dad_scaled
    Distance: 6.0225% / 0.06022498
    46.2 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    40.6 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    10.8 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
    2.4 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva

    Target: passenger_mom_scaled
    Distance: 2.6674% / 0.02667421
    36.2 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    25.8 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    23.2 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    10.4 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    2.6 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    1.8 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG

    Target: passenger_scaled
    Distance: 4.2923% / 0.04292290
    46.4 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    40.4 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    6.6 Levant_Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer_Levant_Natufian
    4.6 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
    1.4 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    0.6 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva

    As usual with these models (no fault of Onur's, of course, just the way the tool works) my results seem skewed and less "realistic" than my parents' (e.g. "Anatolian_Neolithic" score is significantly higher than either of my parents').

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    Interesting one!

    Target: linthos_scaled
    Distance: 3.8226% / 0.03822649
    46.4 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    37.6 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    10.0 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    4.8 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
    1.2 North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
    Paper Trail - Primarily French Canadian and Scottish (through Canada), after that there is English, Portuguese, German, and a small amount of Native American.

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    Distance: 2.8425% / 0.02842455
    48.0 West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP
    17.2 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    16.2 Nilotic_Pastoralist_KEN_Kakapel_900BP
    12.6 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    2.8 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    2.2 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    1.0 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728

    Dad
    Distance: 2.8112% / 0.02811153
    36.6 West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP
    29.0 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    16.8 Nilotic_Pastoralist_KEN_Kakapel_900BP
    11.6 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    2.4 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    2.2 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG
    1.4 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra

    Mom
    Distance: 4.0762% / 0.04076153
    59.0 West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP
    18.2 Nilotic_Pastoralist_KEN_Kakapel_900BP
    14.2 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    6.0 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    1.0 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    1.0 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728
    0.6 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
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    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 3.9027% / 0.03902662
    41.6 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
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    15.2 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    7.8 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    3.4 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    0.8 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG
    0.8 North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
    0.2 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    Other Y-DNA:

    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441

    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 2.4552% / 0.02455222
    34.4 Levant_Beirut_IAIII
    19.2 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    13.6 GRC_Helladic_MBA
    9.2 DEU_MA
    8.4 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
    7.8 EGY_Hellenistic
    6.0 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    1.4 CHN_Chuanyun_Historic

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    Target: pelop_father
    Distance: 2.3482% / 0.02348175
    52.0 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    28.4 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    10.2 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    7.0 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    1.8 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.6 Japan_Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer_JPN_Jomon


    Target: pelop_mother
    Distance: 2.9287% / 0.02928700
    56.0 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    30.2 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    4.4 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    4.4 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    4.2 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    0.8 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG


    Target: pelop
    Distance: 3.0063% / 0.03006305
    51.2 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    35.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    9.8 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    2.0 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    1.0 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    1.0 Japan_Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer_JPN_Jomon


    Looks like some amount of Baltic HG and Iran_N gets transformed into Yamnaya for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Related to my ancestry:




    Tuscan Average.

    Around 6 % Non European admixture.

    Make sense with the Roman empire or possible earlier migrations into Italy.

    Where is the huge Levantine + Iranian impact that some people on this forum claim?
    I think we shall see some more debate regarding PPNB without Tepecik (vs Natufian only), as PPNB is 1/2 Natufian 1/2 Barcin. I do think that ENF is a bit underestimated for Italians here and Levant inflated

    Narva compared to WHG has 20% steppe or something like that. The samples which for some reason prefer Narva to WHG (as I do for example) see slightly lower Yamnaya than "usual" (for example with most calculators I have more steppe than Tuscany).

    Target: NorthernAdriatic_scaled
    Distance: 2.7347% / 0.02734677
    52.5 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    31.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    7.9 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    4.4 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    4.2 TBaltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva

    Without PPNB, Tuscany goes from 6% of Levant+Iran to 5%. I go from ca. 12% to ca. 7.5%. Interesting though that Tuscany doesn't have just PPNB but Natufian too when you put both as sources.

    Target: Italian_Tuscany
    Distance: 1.8762% / 0.01876246
    58.8 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    33.0 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    3.0 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
    2.8 Levant_Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer_Levant_Natufian
    2.0 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    0.4 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG

    Target: NorthernAdriatic_scaled
    Distance: 2.8485% / 0.02848476
    58.4 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    29.8 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    5.4 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    4.4 TBaltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    2.0 Levant_Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer_Levant_Natufian

    With all these calculators I think that in the next months/years we'll see better results once new studies will be published and new samples will be available

    Interestingly, Italian samples split between those who prefer Narva (mainly the Triveneto Northeast, Trentino Sudtirol, Veneto, but also Bergamo, Liguria and Lazio, Molise, Abruzzo although almost noise levels) and those who prefer WHG (Lombardy, Piedmont, Tuscany, Marche, Umbria, Aosta). I guess it's the more 'east shifted' vs 'west shifted' thing. I would've expected Marche to pick Narva but anyway.
    Last edited by Northern Adriatic; 04-17-2021 at 05:10 PM.
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    Ancient: 89.0% ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity + 11.0% HUN_Avar_Szolad @ 2.4649%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    What is the main difference between WHG and Baltic HG?
    Baltic HG is EHG-shifted compared to WHG.

    BHG-like mix was acquired by Indo-Europeans during their early expansion out of the steppe along with some Anatolian Neolithic-like mix. In Western Europe they also mixed with more WHG-admixed Neolithic farmers.

    I don't know if this Moroccan is real. Is it possible for North Italians to have Moroccan component?
    It is noise level. Some Italians can show such noise level MAR EN. North Italians can show too depending on the region as far I can see. It is too low anyway, you can ignore it.

    My father has lower abount of Moroccan farmer. That does not really make sense.
    Maybe. What is your father's known ancestry? That may give a clue.

    Interesting that he however have some WHG instead of Baltic HG.
    May come from his Italian ancestry?
    Your father still mainly has BHG. His WHG can indeed be from Italian ancestry.
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    Own mtDNA: X2e2a3; Drama, Greece
    Maternal Y-DNA: R1a>Y40>YP294>BY90442; Razgrad, Bulgaria
    Father's mtDNA: T2b; Nigde, Turkey
    Paternal grandfather's mtDNA: H2a1; Nigde, Turkey
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