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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    People tend to confuse the two communities given similar names. Early Islamic sources are likely mentioning these Jutt (soft T) and not the Jatts. The word in Arabic is Zut which probably comes from the word above. I did read in the British Era Census reports from Balochistan about 'Jatt' living in Kacchi plains and Lasbela as farmers. I wonder if they are any different from the above mentioned "Jutt" nomads?
    I am aware of Sikh Jatts in Sindh, one of the close relative of my elders had settled there and one of my elders had flown there to see if it was worth buying land there .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    People tend to confuse the two communities given similar names. Early Islamic sources are likely mentioning these Jutt (soft T) and not the Jatts. The word in Arabic is Zut which probably comes from the word above. I did read in the British Era Census reports from Balochistan about 'Jatt' living in Kacchi plains and Lasbela as farmers. I wonder if they are any different from the above mentioned "Jutt" nomads?
    I'm of the same opinion regarding the mention of Jatts/Jutts in early Islam sources. Arabic does not distinguish between soft and hard T's which, much like the later British accounts, led to this confusion.

    I can't speak to the ethnic origin of Katchi Jatt farmers, but in Lasbela it would be the same Jut grouping of tribes. Jadgal or Jamot is the term used for all Sindhi speaking tribes native to Balochistan. Lasbela is the lone Jadgal territory in Balochistan as they outnumber the Baloch/Brahui, and the ruling Jam of Lasbela is the head of the Jamot tribes. Most of them are farmers these days, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were originally pastoralists, and even today the camel breeders tend to be Jadgal across Balochistan.

    The Jadgal in Iran have oral history of migrating from Lasbela.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    People tend to confuse the two communities given similar names. Early Islamic sources are likely mentioning these Jutt (soft T) and not the Jatts. The word in Arabic is Zut which probably comes from the word above. I did read in the British Era Census reports from Balochistan about 'Jatt' living in Kacchi plains and Lasbela as farmers. I wonder if they are any different from the above mentioned "Jutt" nomads?
    Az-ZuTT
    Instead of ت we see accented ط being used.
    https://www.google.com/books/edition...utt%22&pg=PA42

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    Az-ZuTT
    Instead of ت we see accented ط being used.
    https://www.google.com/books/edition...utt%22&pg=PA42
    Exactly. Thanks for the reference. Given this reference is from Ibn Umer and refers to general people from India (at least those they came in contact with), it cannot apply to the Jatt community of Punjab.
    Another confusing thing is that aside from
    Jat with a ت or a soft t, and a Zutt with a phoneme ط, there is another variety with a 'th' sound:
    "جاٿ जाट jāṭ
    H جاٿ जाट jāṭ, s.m. Name of a tribe of Rājpūts (who are mostly cultivators); a member of the tribe.
    جاٿ जाट jāṭ
    H جاٿ जाट jāṭ, s.m.=jāṭh, q.v."

    this one refers to farmers or cultivators.
    https://www.rekhta.org/urdudictionar...t&reftype=rweb
     

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