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    Smile Royal mtDna U5B ?

    Do you know how much? Not yet a King Dns-t.
    Last edited by lehelhirth; 05-01-2021 at 09:16 PM.

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    There is a list of some royal DNA with some evidence at https://isogg.org/wiki/Famous_DNA:Royal_DNA
    No mtDNA there for any royal lines.
    Probably because it can be so much harder than tracing male lines between a test subject and someone in the royal line of interest.

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    This is quite frequent among German/Austria nobles.

    Female blood line mtDNA U5b

    Kings & Queens of Germany

    Elisabeth of Bavaria (c. 1227-1273) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Elizabeth of Carinthia (1262-1312) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Frederick the Fair, Duke of Austria and King of Germany (1289-1330) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Joanna of Bavaria, Queen of Germany and Bohemia (c. 1362–1386) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Albert II of Germany (1397-1439) => U5b* (mtDNA)

    Margraves, Dukes & Archdukes of Austria

    Rudolf I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria and Styria, King of Bohemia, and titular King of Poland (1282-1307) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Frederick I the Fair, Duke of Austria and Styria, and King of Germany (1289-1330) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Leopold I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria and Styria (1290-1326) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Albert II of Habsburg, Duke of Austria (1298-1358) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Otto I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria (1301-1339) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Albert II, King of Germany and Archduke of Austria (1397-1439) => U5b* (mtDNA)

    Dukes/Kings & Queens of Bavaria

    Louis II, Duke of Bavaria (1229-1294) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Henry XIII, Duke of Bavaria (1235-1290) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    William II, Duke of Bavaria, Count of Holland, Zeeland and Hainaut (1365–1417) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Albert II (1369-1397) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    John III, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing, Count of Holland and Hainaut (1374/76-1425) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Louis IX, Duke of Bavaria-Landshut (1417-1479) => U5b* (mtDNA)

    Dukes/Kings & Queens of Bohemia

    Henry VI of Carinthia (c. 1270–1335) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Rudolf I of Habsburg (1282-1307) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Joanna of Bavaria (c. 1362–1386) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Albert II of Germany (1397-1439) => U5b* (mtDNA)

    Kings & Queens of France

    Francis I (1494-1547) => U5b* (mtDNA)
    Henry IV (1553-1610) => R1b-Z381 (Y-DNA) U5b* (mtDNA)
    The maternal line of Henry IV => U5b* (mtDNA) :
    Jeanne d'Albret, Queen regnant of Navarre (1528-1572)
    - Marguerite d'Angoulême (1492-1549)
    -- Louise of Savoy (1476-1531)
    --- Marguerite de Bourbon (1439–1483)
    ---- Agnes of Burgundy (1407-1476)
    ----- Margaret of Bavaria, Duchess of Burgundy (1363-1423)
    ------ Margaret of Brieg (1342–1386)
    ------- Agnes of Głogów-Żagań (1321-1362)
    -------- Matilda of Brandenburg-Salzwedel (d. 1323)
    --------- Anna of Austria (1275/80–1327)
    ---------- Elisabetha of Carinthia, Queen of Germany (c. 1262-1312)
    ----------- Elisabetha of Bavaria, Queen of Germany (c. 1227-1273)
    ------------ Agnes of the Palatinate, Duchess of Bavaria (1201–1267)
    ------------- Agnes of Hohenstaufen, Countess Palatine (1176-1204)
    -------------- Ermengard, Countess of Henneberg (c. 1136-1197)

    Descendants of the above who can all be listed as members of haplogroup U5b

    Via Jeanne d'Albret

    - Henry III of Navarre and IV of France (1553-1610)
    - Catherine de Bourbon (1559-1604), Duchess of Lorraine

    Via Louise of Savoy

    - Marguerite of Angoulême, Queen of Navarre (1492-1549)
    - Francis I of France (1494-1547)

    Via Margaret of Bourbon

    - Louise of Savoy (1476-1531), Duchess of Auvergne, Bourbon, and Nemours
    - Philibert II, Duke of Savoy (1480-1504)

    Via Agnes of Burgundy

    - John II, Duke of Bourbon (1426–1488)
    - Mary of Bourbon, Duchess of Lorraine (1428–1448)
    -- Nicholas I, Duke of Lorraine
    - Charles II, Duke of Bourbon and Auvergne, Archbishop of Lyon (1434–1488)
    - Isabella of Bourbon, Duchess of Burgundy (1436–1465)
    -- Mary of Burgundy, suo jure Duchess of Burgundy
    --- Philip I of Castile, King of Castile and ruler of the Burgundian Netherlands
    --- Margaret of Austria, Duchess of Savoy
    - Peter II, Duke of Bourbon (1438–1503)
    - Louis de Bourbon, Prince-Bishop of Liège (1438-1482)
    - Margaret of Bourbon, Duchess of Savoy (1439–1483)
    - Catharine of Bourbon, Duchess of Guelders (1440-1469)
    -- Charles II, Duke of Guelders
    -- Philippa of Guelders, Duchess of Lorraine
    --- Antoine, Duke of Lorraine (1489–1544)
    --- Claude, Duke of Guise (1496–1550), first Duke of Guise
    --- John, Cardinal of Lorraine and Bishop of Metz (1498–1550)
    - Joanna of Bourbon (1442–1493), Princess of Orange

    Via Margaret of Bavaria

    - Marie of Burgundy, Duchess of Cleves (1393-1463)
    -- Margaret of Cleves, Duchess of Bavaria-Munich (1416-1444)
    --- Adolf, Duke of Bavaria (1434–1441)
    -- Catherine of Cleves, Duchess of Guelders (1417–1479)
    --- Mary of Guelders, Queen of Scotland (1431-1463)
    ---- James III of Scotland (1451–1488)
    ---- Alexander Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany (c. 1454-1485)
    --- Adolf, Duke of Guelders (1438–1477)
    -- John I, Duke of Cleves (1419–1481)
    -- Helen of Cleves (1423–1471), Duchess of Brunswick-Lüneburg
    -- Maria of Cleves, Duchess of Orléans (1426–1487)
    - Margaret of Burgundy, Dauphine of France (1393–1441)
    - Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy (1396–1467)
    - Anne of Burgundy, Duchess of Bedford (1404/14-1432)
    - Agnes of Burgundy, Duchess of Bourbon (1407-1476)

    Via Margaret of Brieg

    - Joanna of Bavaria, Queen of Germany and Bohemia (c. 1362–1386)
    - Margaret of Bavaria, (1363-1423), Duchess of Burgundy
    - William II, Duke of Bavaria, Count of Holland, Zeeland and Hainaut (1365–1417)
    - Albert II, Duke of Bavaria (1369-1397)
    - Joanna Sophia of Bavaria, Duchess of Austria (c. 1373-1410)
    -- Albert II of Germany, King of Germany, Hungary, Bohemia and Croatia, Duke of Luxembourg, and Archduke of Austria (1397-1439)
    -- Margarete of Austria, Duchess of Bavaria
    --- Louis IX, Duke of Bavaria
    --- Elisabeth of Bavaria, Countess of Württemberg
    ---- Eberhard II, Duke of Württemberg
    - John III, Prince-bishop of Liège, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing, Count of Holland and Hainaut (1374/76-1425)

    From the 1st possible ancestry of Agnes of Glosow

    Via Anne of Austria, Margravine of Brandenburg

    - John V, Margrave of Brandenburg-Salzwedel (1302–1317)
    - Matilde of Brandenburg (died 1323)
    - Agnes of Brandenburg (1297–1334), Duchess of Brunswick-Lüneburg

    (2nd marriage)
    - Elisabeth of Brieg, Duchess of Oleśnica (c. 1311-1328)
    - Euphemia of Brieg (Ofka) (c.1312-1384), Duchess of Wieluń and Niemodlin
    -- Bolesław II of Niemodlin, Duke of Niemodlin (1326/35-1368)
    -- Wenceslaus of Niemodlin, Duke of Niemodlin and Gliwice (1336/46-1369)
    -- Henry of Niemodlin (1345-1382), Duke of Niemodlin
    -- Judith of Niemodlin (c.1346-1378), Duchess of Opava and Ratibór
    --- Wenceslaus I, Duke of Opava (c. 1361-1381)
    --- Přemek I, Duke of Opava (c. 1366-1433)

    Via Elizabeth of Carinthia (aka Elisabeth of Gorizia-Tyrol), Queen of Germany

    --- Anne of Austria, Margravine of Brandenburg (1280-1327)
    --- Agnes of Austria, Queen of Hungary (1281–1364)
    --- Rudolf I of Habsburg, Duke of Austria and Styria, King of Bohemia, and titular King of Poland (1282-1307)
    --- Elisabeth of Austria, Duchess of Lorraine (c. 1285-1353)
    ---- Rudolph, Duke of Lorraine (1320-1346)
    --- Frederick the Fair, Duke of Austria and Styria, and King of Germany (1289-1330)
    --- Leopold I, Duke of Austria and Styria (1290-1326)
    --- Catherine of Austria, Duchess of Calabria (1295-1323)
    --- Albert II, Duke of Austria (1298-1358)
    --- Otto I, Duke of Austria (1301-1339)

    Via Elisabeth of Bavaria, Queen of Germany

    - Elisabeth of Gorizia-Tyrol (1262–1312), Queen of Germany
    - Conradin, Duke of Swabia, King of Jerusalem, and King of Sicily (1252-1268)
    - Otto III, Duke of Carinthia (c. 1265-1310)
    - Henry VI of Carinthia, King of Bohemia, Duke of Carinthia and Count of Tyrol (c. 1270–1335)

    Via Agnes of the Palatinate (aka Agnes of the Rhine)

    - Louis II, Duke of Bavaria (1229-1294)
    - Henry XIII, Duke of Bavaria (1235-1290)
    - Elisabeth of Bavaria, Queen of Germany (c. 1227-1273)

    Via Agnes of Hohenstaufen

    - Henry VI, Count Palatine of the Rhine (c. 1196-1214)
    - Irmengard of the Rhine, Margravine of Baden (c. 1200-1260)
    -- Herman VI, Margrave of Baden (c. 1226-1250)
    -- Rudolf I, Margrave of Baden-Baden (1230-1288)
    -- Mathilde of Baden, Countess of Württemberg (died 1258)
    --- Ulrich II, Count of Württemberg (c. 1254-1279)
    - Agnes of the Palatinate (1201–1267), Duchess of Bavaria

    Kings & Queens of Spain

    Philip I of Castile, King of Castile and ruler of the Burgundian Netherlands => U5b* (mtDNA)

    Kings & Queens of Scotland

    James III (1451-1488) => U5b* (mtDNA)

    http://www.hartforth.com/dna.html

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