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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaska View Post
    Are you talking about Valter Lang's synthesis or what? I don't know, if you don't tell, because I'm not a telepathic. You mentioned some "Finnish researchers" - whom did you meant?
    I mean Piha. https://kalmistopiiri.fi/2020/02/06/...skandinaviaan/
    Nykyn saamen kielten oletetaan levinneen Suomen ja Skandinavian alueelle ajanlaskun alun paikkeilla.
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    Your opinion is based only on the lack of knowledge, and you must know that.
    If you refuse to understand the arguments, that is your free choice, but do not bluff and lie here. The evidence is clear: there is no way that Eura and Aura could have been borrowed near 200 AD. Read more, claim less.
    It is you not me who keeps bringing up this date of 200 AD, not me. I do not consider it relevant and it's best not mentioned again instead of more reasonable estimates. It has relevance only as the approximate end of the Middle Proto-Finnic period. You have not provided a realistic lower bound for Middle Proto-Finnic in Finland. 0, 100 , 200, 300, 400 BC etc are all dates well within the Middle Proto-Finnic period. How are we to determine which of them is more likely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaska View Post
    Oder is seen to go back to the very same NwG word for 'vein, river', as Eura and Aura. There are other examples in the (former) Germanic area.
    Could you specify them? The interesting thing here is that a form that resembles the Germanic forms of 'vein' are also close to the PIE word meaning 'water', '*wdr̥'.

    I tried these resources:
    https://www.koeblergerhard.de/wikili...ra&f=ahd&mod=0
    https://spraakbanken.gu.se/saolhist/...OL14_01560.png
    http://runeberg.org/svetym/1280.html
    https://islenskordabok.arnastofnun.is/ord/48058

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standardized Ape View Post
    Clearly she means: "into the most of Finland and Scandinavia only then". I'm sure she doesn't mean "into Finland at all only then" there, based on what else she has written.


    Quote Originally Posted by Standardized Ape
    It is you not me who keeps bringing up this date of 200 AD, not me. I do not consider it relevant and it's best not mentioned again instead of more reasonable estimates. It has relevance only as the approximate end of the Middle Proto-Finnic period. You have not provided a realistic lower bound for Middle Proto-Finnic in Finland. 0, 100 , 200, 300, 400 BC etc are all dates well within the Middle Proto-Finnic period. How are we to determine which of them is more likely?
    Read my earlier comments: the answer is there:
    We know quite well, when the sound changes occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    Could you specify them? The interesting thing here is that a form that resembles the Germanic forms of 'vein' are also close to the PIE word meaning 'water', '*wdr̥'.
    I try to find the article where they were mentioned.
    There is in NwG the long *aa in the word for 'vein', and short *a in the word for 'water'. The latter is mostly *a still: water, wasser, vatten.

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