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  1. #31
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    E-FT380205
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    H5m*
    Y-DNA (M)
    E-V13

    Serbia United States of America
    My G25 five kits combined. Distance again among the highest of you all.

    Target: Hazmatnik_scaled
    Distance: 2.9018% / 0.02901845
    57.8 __Slavic
    18.6 __Greek
    16.2 __IllyricRoman
    7.4 __LateRoman

    FTDNA only G25 even higher.

    Target: Hazmatnik_scaled
    Distance: 3.2308% / 0.03230835
    51.6 __Slavic
    33.2 __IllyricRoman
    14.0 __Greek
    1.2 __LateRoman

    I recently made five+WGS kit but dont have G25 yet. On other calcs that one pushed me even more away.
    Last edited by Hazmatnik; 05-06-2021 at 03:49 PM.

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    Distance to: LesPoilus
    0.04039582 __Gallic
    0.08062141 __Germanic
    0.08825620 __LateRoman
    0.09326912 __IllyricRoman
    0.10570942 _Slavic
    0.15326404 __Alanic
    0.15564772 __Greek
    0.18274262 __Levantine
    0.21995824 __Finnic
    0.48092494 __Hunnic

    Target: LesPoilus
    Distance: 4.0365% / 0.04036469.
    98.0 __Gallic
    2.0 __LateRoman

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  5. #33
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    H1q2

    Spain Basque Andalucia
    This reference could be a goor proxy for "Iberic":

    Code:
    __Iberic,0.1246363,0.1477593,0.0581897,0.0040375,0.059488,-0.0018686,-0.0035956,0.0044769,0.029206,0.0445020,-0.0042058,0.0106555,-0.0220763,-0.0133218,0.0084282,0.0045214,0.0037681,0.0014695,0.0030167,-0.0009754,0.0061017,0.0003958,-0.0073085,-0.0122786,-0.0021196
    Target: Iberia_IA:average(n=10)
    Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000

    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I12410
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I12879
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3320
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3321
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3322
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3323
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3324
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3327
    10.0 Iberia:_North_IA:I3758
    10.0 Iberia:_North_IA:I3759

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    This reference could be a goor proxy for "Iberic":

    Code:
    __Iberic,0.1246363,0.1477593,0.0581897,0.0040375,0.059488,-0.0018686,-0.0035956,0.0044769,0.029206,0.0445020,-0.0042058,0.0106555,-0.0220763,-0.0133218,0.0084282,0.0045214,0.0037681,0.0014695,0.0030167,-0.0009754,0.0061017,0.0003958,-0.0073085,-0.0122786,-0.0021196
    Target: Iberia_IA:average(n=10)
    Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000

    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I12410
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I12879
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3320
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3321
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3322
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3323
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3324
    10.0 Iberia:_East_IA:I3327
    10.0 Iberia:_North_IA:I3758
    10.0 Iberia:_North_IA:I3759

    Distance to: LesPoilus
    0.04039582 __Gallic
    0.04948363 __Iberic
    0.08062141 __Germanic
    0.08825620 __LateRoman
    0.09326912 __IllyricRoman
    0.10570942 _Slavic
    0.15326404 __Alanic
    0.15564772 __Greek
    0.18274262 __Levantine
    0.21995824 __Finnic
    0.48092494 __Hunnic

    It works quite well for me.

    Target: LesPoilus
    Distance: 3.5693% / 0.03569328
    63.8 __Gallic
    35.8 __Iberic
    0.4 __Germanic

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  9. #35
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    Spain Basque Andalucia
    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 1.9304% / 0.01930371

    62.0 __Iberic
    19.6 __Gallic
    7.2 __Germanic
    7.0 __Levantine
    4.2 __Greek

    Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
    Distance: 2.5178% / 0.02517783

    56.4 __Iberic
    36.6 __LateRoman
    6.0 __Gallic
    1.0 __Levantine

    Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
    Distance: 2.7109% / 0.02710943

    57.8 __Iberic
    20.2 __Gallic
    14.0 __Germanic
    8.0 __Greek

    Distances:
     
    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.03260630 __Iberic
    0.04062714 __Gallic
    0.06700440 __LateRoman
    0.07494877 __IllyricRoman
    0.09221541 __Germanic
    0.11352071 __Slavic
    0.13624530 __Greek
    0.14293948 __Alanic
    0.16257632 __Levantine
    0.22272319 __Finnic
    0.47700324 __Hunnic

    Distance to: gixajo_dad_scaled
    0.04242160 __Iberic
    0.05406091 __Gallic
    0.05678298 __LateRoman
    0.06562666 __IllyricRoman
    0.10789775 __Germanic
    0.12375425 __Greek
    0.12595837 __Slavic
    0.14220693 __Alanic
    0.15068589 __Levantine
    0.23058255 __Finnic
    0.47916895 __Hunnic

    Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
    0.03670249 __Iberic
    0.03785331 __Gallic
    0.07840071 __LateRoman
    0.08454173 __Germanic
    0.08599017 __IllyricRoman
    0.10788220 __Slavic
    0.14695026 __Greek
    0.14798697 __Alanic
    0.17394651 __Levantine
    0.21604300 __Finnic
    0.47723155 __Hunnic

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    I2a1a2b-A815
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    HV0-T195C!

    Croatia European Union
    For Iberians:

    Code:
    __Vasconic,0.127102,0.141836,0.058202,0.013028,0.056113,0.001767,-0.002115,0.003000,0.024543,0.035475,-0.001786,0.011590,-0.017839,-0.008808,0.013029,0.003138,-0.005345,0.000084,-0.003352,-0.002334,0.007736,0.003462,-0.006368,-0.012411,-0.004471
    __Berber,-0.092359,0.130931,-0.003286,-0.071199,0.025653,-0.032491,-0.031223,0.010104,0.067347,0.029926,0.009848,-0.005973,0.021662,-0.016141,0.020193,-0.01414,-0.005979,-0.021365,-0.046131,0.009478,-0.016453,-0.041627,0.024808,-0.002066,0.005372
     
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  13. #37
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    Albanian
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    T1a1l
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    E-CTS1273*

    Albania Kosovo
    Distance: 2.5150% / 0.02515012
    56.8 __IllyricRoman
    27.6 __LateRoman
    15.6 __Slavic

    0.03359982 __IllyricRoman
    0.03658563 __LateRoman
    0.07008457 __Gallic

    0.09678071 __Greek
    0.11678829 __Alanic
    0.12051551 __Slavic
    0.12213994 __Germanic
    0.12807749 __Levantine
    0.23169640 __Finnic
    0.47539085 __Hunnic
    Ydna: J1>P58>YSC234>ZS241>BY32817 (Y179831)

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS1273*

    Mtdna: T1a1l

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  15. #38
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    United States of America England Northern Ireland Scotland Wales Normandie
    With Iberians added:

    Target: gar_ancestry_scaled
    Distance: 1.8610% / 0.01860976
    50.2 __Germanic
    38.2 __Vasconic
    8.0 __Gallic
    3.6 __Berber

    Original:
    Target: gar_ancestry_scaled
    Distance: 2.5986% / 0.02598597
    64.8 __Gallic
    35.2 __Germanic
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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    H95a
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    R1b-S8172
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    T2b17

    Australia Italy Veneto Friuli Italy Trentino Alto Adige Italy Ladinia Austria Tirol
    Distance to: Vettor_scaled
    0.04643247 __Gallic
    0.04945908 __LateRoman
    0.05219692 __IllyricRoman
    0.09720814 __Germanic
    0.10592874 __Slavic
    0.11464655 __Greek
    0.11813311 __Alanic
    0.14339797 __Levantine
    0.21759231 __Finnic
    0.47156585 __Hunnic


    Target: Vettor_scaled
    Distance: 2.5155% / 0.02515467
    40.6 __Gallic
    40.6 __LateRoman
    9.6 __Slavic
    6.0 __IllyricRoman
    3.2 __Greek


    Distance to: Vettor_scaled
    0.02636269 52.20% __Gallic + 47.80% __LateRoman
    0.02657914 45.80% __IllyricRoman + 54.20% __Gallic
    0.02664431 74.60% __Gallic + 25.40% __Greek
    0.02839328 30.40% __Germanic + 69.60% __LateRoman
    0.02943554 28.00% __Slavic + 72.00% __LateRoman
    0.02951980 79.60% __Gallic + 20.40% __Levantine
    0.03035874 68.60% __IllyricRoman + 31.40% __Germanic
    0.03448888 28.20% __Slavic + 71.80% __IllyricRoman
    0.03616278 54.60% __Germanic + 45.40% __Greek
    0.04187378 84.60% __Gallic + 15.40% __Alanic
    0.04267311 89.60% __LateRoman + 10.40% __Finnic
    0.04440300 52.40% __Slavic + 47.60% __Greek
    0.04581529 61.40% __Germanic + 38.60% __Levantine
    0.04609183 89.60% __IllyricRoman + 10.40% __Finnic
    0.04641393 99.80% __Gallic + 0.20% __Hunnic
    0.04937557 14.60% __IllyricRoman + 85.40% __LateRoman
    0.04937799 99.40% __LateRoman + 0.60% __Hunnic
    0.05217403 99.60% __IllyricRoman + 0.40% __Hunnic
    0.05383108 59.20% __Slavic + 40.80% __Levantine
    0.07509665 59.60% __Germanic + 40.40% __Alanic
    0.07959461 55.60% __Slavic + 44.40% __Alanic
    0.08366140 72.00% __Greek + 28.00% __Finnic
    0.09541204 28.80% __Slavic + 71.20% __Germanic
    0.09720089 99.80% __Germanic + 0.20% __Hunnic
    0.10191372 53.20% __Greek + 46.80% __Alanic


    .................................................. ....................

    interesting is with the iberians/vasconic added ..............the Greek rises in % ...............are greeks attached to Iberians ?

    Target: Vettor_scaled
    Distance: 2.4939% / 0.02493918
    37.0 __Gallic
    16.4 __Greek
    14.4 __IllyricRoman
    13.4 __Vasconic
    10.8 __Slavic
    8.0 __LateRoman
    Last edited by vettor; 05-06-2021 at 05:24 PM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    With Vasconic, Berber and Iberic:

    Distance to: LesPoilus
    0.03961941 _Vasconic
    0.04039582 __Gallic
    0.04948363 _Iberic
    0.08062141 __Germanic
    0.08825620 __LateRoman
    0.09326912 __IllyricRoman
    0.10570942 _Slavic
    0.15326404 __Alanic
    0.15564772 __Greek
    0.18274262 __Levantine
    0.21995824 __Finnic
    0.27278488 __Berber
    0.48092494 __Hunnic


    Target: LesPoilus
    Distance: 3.4394% / 0.03439363
    51.2 _Vasconic
    48.4 __Gallic
    0.4 __Berber

    Distance to: LesPoilus
    0.03441124 48.20% __Gallic + 51.80% _Vasconic
    0.03569376 64.40% __Gallic + 35.60% _Iberic
    0.03750711 15.20% __Germanic + 84.80% _Vasconic
    0.03871830 7.80% _Slavic + 92.20% _Vasconic
    0.03877416 8.80% __IllyricRoman + 91.20% _Vasconic
    0.03894547 4.60% __Alanic + 95.40% _Vasconic
    0.03894705 8.40% __LateRoman + 91.60% _Vasconic
    0.03918871 3.80% __Greek + 96.20% _Vasconic
    0.03935365 2.60% __Levantine + 97.40% _Vasconic
    0.03968967 29.60% __Germanic + 70.40% _Iberic
    0.03998700 98.00% __Gallic + 2.00% __Berber
    0.04036469 98.00% __Gallic + 2.00% __LateRoman
    0.04321055 20.00% _Slavic + 80.00% _Iberic
    0.04641091 10.60% __Alanic + 89.40% _Iberic
    0.04809400 12.80% __IllyricRoman + 87.20% _Iberic
    0.04817361 5.00% __Finnic + 95.00% _Iberic
    0.04825158 13.00% __LateRoman + 87.00% _Iberic
    0.04910249 4.00% __Greek + 96.00% _Iberic
    0.04927533 2.60% __Levantine + 97.40% _Iberic
    0.04944927 0.40% __Hunnic + 99.60% _Iberic
    0.05165111 53.60% __Germanic + 46.40% __LateRoman
    0.05467854 44.00% __IllyricRoman + 56.00% __Germanic
    0.05896666 72.40% __Germanic + 27.60% __Greek
    0.06314173 77.40% __Germanic + 22.60% __Levantine
    0.06582515 41.60% _Slavic + 58.40% __LateRoman


    Without Iberic:
    Distance to: LesPoilus
    0.03441124 51.80% __Vasconic + 48.20% __Gallic
    0.03750711 84.80% __Vasconic + 15.20% __Germanic
    0.03871830 92.20% __Vasconic + 7.80% _Slavic
    0.03877416 91.20% __Vasconic + 8.80% __IllyricRoman
    0.03894547 95.40% __Vasconic + 4.60% __Alanic
    0.03894705 91.60% __Vasconic + 8.40% __LateRoman
    0.03918871 96.20% __Vasconic + 3.80% __Greek
    0.03935365 97.40% __Vasconic + 2.60% __Levantine
    0.03998700 2.00% __Berber + 98.00% __Gallic
    0.04036469 98.00% __Gallic + 2.00% __LateRoman
    0.05165111 53.60% __Germanic + 46.40% __LateRoman
    0.05467854 44.00% __IllyricRoman + 56.00% __Germanic
    0.05896666 72.40% __Germanic + 27.60% __Greek
    0.06314173 77.40% __Germanic + 22.60% __Levantine
    0.06582515 41.60% _Slavic + 58.40% __LateRoman
    0.07057349 12.80% __Berber + 87.20% __Germanic
    0.07074055 43.60% _Slavic + 56.40% __IllyricRoman
    0.07786410 86.40% __Germanic + 13.60% __Alanic
    0.08041932 66.00% _Slavic + 34.00% __Greek
    0.08142738 85.80% __LateRoman + 14.20% __Finnic
    0.08525168 72.20% _Slavic + 27.80% __Levantine
    0.08648932 85.20% __IllyricRoman + 14.80% __Finnic
    0.09303773 16.40% __Berber + 83.60% _Slavic
    0.09808372 75.00% _Slavic + 25.00% __Alanic
    0.12222003 65.40% __Greek + 34.60% __Finnic

    With Iberic and Berber:
    Distance to: LesPoilus
    0.04039582 __Gallic
    0.04948363 _Iberic
    0.08062141 __Germanic
    0.08825620 __LateRoman
    0.09326912 __IllyricRoman
    0.10570942 _Slavic
    0.15326404 __Alanic
    0.15564772 __Greek
    0.18274262 __Levantine
    0.21995824 __Finnic
    0.27278488 __Berber
    0.48092494 __Hunnic

    Target: LesPoilus
    Distance: 3.5687% / 0.03568663
    63.6 __Gallic
    35.6 _Iberic
    0.6 __Germanic
    0.2 __Berber


    Distance to: LesPoilus
    0.03569376 64.40% __Gallic + 35.60% _Iberic
    0.03968967 29.60% __Germanic + 70.40% _Iberic
    0.03998700 98.00% __Gallic + 2.00% __Berber
    0.04036469 98.00% __Gallic + 2.00% __LateRoman
    0.04321055 20.00% _Slavic + 80.00% _Iberic
    0.04641091 10.60% __Alanic + 89.40% _Iberic
    0.04809400 12.80% __IllyricRoman + 87.20% _Iberic
    0.04817361 5.00% __Finnic + 95.00% _Iberic
    0.04825158 13.00% __LateRoman + 87.00% _Iberic
    0.04910249 4.00% __Greek + 96.00% _Iberic
    0.04927533 2.60% __Levantine + 97.40% _Iberic
    0.04944927 0.40% __Hunnic + 99.60% _Iberic
    0.05165111 53.60% __Germanic + 46.40% __LateRoman
    0.05467854 44.00% __IllyricRoman + 56.00% __Germanic
    0.05896666 72.40% __Germanic + 27.60% __Greek
    0.06314173 77.40% __Germanic + 22.60% __Levantine
    0.06582515 41.60% _Slavic + 58.40% __LateRoman
    0.07057349 87.20% __Germanic + 12.80% __Berber
    0.07074055 43.60% _Slavic + 56.40% __IllyricRoman
    0.07786410 86.40% __Germanic + 13.60% __Alanic
    0.08041932 66.00% _Slavic + 34.00% __Greek
    0.08142738 85.80% __LateRoman + 14.20% __Finnic
    0.08525168 72.20% _Slavic + 27.80% __Levantine
    0.08648932 85.20% __IllyricRoman + 14.80% __Finnic
    0.09303773 83.60% _Slavic + 16.40% __Berber

    What is "Vasconic", some kind of Basque-like sample?

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