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    FTDNA/ Geno 2.0 put me a X and X1 but pred. with MTDNA data from ftdna say H2h

    Ftdna and Geno 2.0 say to me years ago that I'm X and X1 MTDNA haplogroup and these days I take ftdna data from MTDNA and put in this site:https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/and for my surprise say other thing, what is my real MTDNA ? I'm Lebanese origin!!!


    Here is the data that use as text

    195T
    247G
    769G
    825T
    1018G
    2395T
    2758G
    2885T
    3594C
    3795T
    4104A
    4312C
    5302C
    6221C
    6371T
    7256C
    7521G
    8468C
    8655C
    8701A
    9489A
    9540T
    10398A
    10664C
    10688G
    10810T
    10873T
    10915T
    11914G
    13105A
    13276A
    13326C
    13506C
    13650C
    13966G
    14470C
    15654C
    16129G
    16140C
    16169T
    16230A
    16311T

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    The explanation is in the "Best Match" section from your James Lick mtDNA results. Post that here if you want to.
    Last edited by J1 DYS388=13; 05-13-2021 at 10:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J1 DYS388=13 View Post
    The explanation is in the "Best Match" section from your James Lick mtDNA results. Post that here if you want to.
    What is? I didn't found

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahaddad View Post
    Ftdna and Geno 2.0 say to me years ago that I'm X and X1 MTDNA haplogroup and these days I take ftdna data from MTDNA and put in this site:https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/and for my surprise say other thing, what is my real MTDNA ? I'm Lebanese origin!!!


    Here is the data that use as text

    195T
    247G
    769G
    825T
    1018G
    2395T
    2758G
    2885T
    3594C
    3795T
    4104A
    4312C
    5302C
    6221C
    6371T
    7256C
    7521G
    8468C
    8655C
    8701A
    9489A
    9540T
    10398A
    10664C
    10688G
    10810T
    10873T
    10915T
    11914G
    13105A
    13276A
    13326C
    13506C
    13650C
    13966G
    14470C
    15654C
    16129G
    16140C
    16169T
    16230A
    16311T
    It only takes a moment to check it yourself manually

    http://phylotree.org/tree/X.htm

    X T6221C C6371T A13966G T14470C T16189C! C16278T!

    and you have all those except for the last two which are reverse mutations back to the ancestral value.
    YSEQ:#37; YFull: YF01405 (Y Elite 2013)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacUalraig View Post
    It only takes a moment to check it yourself manually

    http://phylotree.org/tree/X.htm

    X T6221C C6371T A13966G T14470C T16189C! C16278T!

    and you have all those except for the last two which are reverse mutations back to the ancestral value.
    So you think I'm X1 like Geno and ftdna say? Predictor say h2h

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahaddad View Post
    So you think I'm X1 like Geno and ftdna say? Predictor say h2h
    It is best to study the tree, then you would see that H2h isn't even on the tree (it only has H2a/b/c).

    If you read up on how the tree works a bit you will learn that the old version of the tree was based on someone in haplogroup H2a2a1. We now use the version I posted which is correctly rooted.

    Yes I am confident you are hg X. You also by the way have mutation 8701 which defines N, the parent of X. But you lack 12705 and 16223 which define R, the parent of H.
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    I don't use the James Lick site but if I submit my own data to it it generates a report relative to the OLD tree and so has a number of lines like

    "Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup <blah> (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G"

    As I mentioned in a post above this is just because the old tree was based on someone in H2a2a1. It is tracing your tree branch relative to that person.
    However, really he ought to not do this in my view. It should still give the same final answer but risks confusing the user along the way.
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    The James Lick mtDNA site uses "Data updated to PhyloTree Build 17," 2016. What you see is what you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J1 DYS388=13 View Post
    The James Lick mtDNA site uses "Data updated to PhyloTree Build 17," 2016. What you see is what you get.
    Im X or H2h? Now confusing

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    You are X

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