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    R-BY12112

    I recently did the Big Y700 my new Haplogroup is R-BY12112 .I have no Y matches at that level but do have 10 Bruce surnamed matches in Y12 through Y67 .I have 4 false non surname matches 2 at the Y25 level but they don’t match me beyond that and 2 Y12 non surname matches but both are a different haplogroup . My Y line descends from a French “minor” royal French family with my 8th Great Grandfather being an exiled Huguenot who arrived in the Virginia colony in 1700. He anglicized his name from Jacques Brousse to James Bruce . He was a tanner merchant and was a type of landlord and registered his coat of arms in Virginia . Being all my Bruce matches are in America I am kind of shocked that no Brousse in France of Canada or even Louisiana has Y tested. I understand Brousse is a super common French surname. Out of the other BY12112 I don’t come anywhere near matching their DYSs . One uncommon marker all my matches carry is DYS 385 =11-12.
    y group R-BY12112 MTDNA T2b

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    You welcome to join the R1b All Subclades project and R1b.YDNA Facebook groups and ask there.
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/R1b.YDNA/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brousse View Post
    I recently did the Big Y700 my new Haplogroup is R-BY12112 .I have no Y matches at that level but do have 10 Bruce surnamed matches in Y12 through Y67 .I have 4 false non surname matches 2 at the Y25 level but they don’t match me beyond that and 2 Y12 non surname matches but both are a different haplogroup . My Y line descends from a French “minor” royal French family with my 8th Great Grandfather being an exiled Huguenot who arrived in the Virginia colony in 1700. He anglicized his name from Jacques Brousse to James Bruce . He was a tanner merchant and was a type of landlord and registered his coat of arms in Virginia . Being all my Bruce matches are in America I am kind of shocked that no Brousse in France of Canada or even Louisiana has Y tested. I understand Brousse is a super common French surname. Out of the other BY12112 I don’t come anywhere near matching their DYSs . One uncommon marker all my matches carry is DYS 385 =11-12.
    Did you upload your data to YFull.com?
    YSEQ:#37; YFull: YF01405 (Y Elite 2013)
    WGS (Full Genomes Nov 2015, YSEQ Feb 2019, Dante Mar 2019, FGC-10X Linked Reads Apr 2019, Dante-Nanopore May 2019, Chronomics Jan 2020, Sano Genetics Feb 2020, Nebula Genomics June 2020)
    Ancestry GCs: Scots in central Scotland & Ulster, Ireland; English in Yorkshire & Pennines
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    I haven’t uploaded it anywhere I did not pay the extra $100 for that. I might add I have 20 private variants
    y group R-BY12112 MTDNA T2b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brousse View Post
    I haven’t uploaded it anywhere I did not pay the extra $100 for that. I might add I have 20 private variants
    You only need the VCF report for a YFull upload although if you have it, the BAM file is better. VCF will get you on their tree and your matches.
    YSEQ:#37; YFull: YF01405 (Y Elite 2013)
    WGS (Full Genomes Nov 2015, YSEQ Feb 2019, Dante Mar 2019, FGC-10X Linked Reads Apr 2019, Dante-Nanopore May 2019, Chronomics Jan 2020, Sano Genetics Feb 2020, Nebula Genomics June 2020)
    Ancestry GCs: Scots in central Scotland & Ulster, Ireland; English in Yorkshire & Pennines
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    So far it almost looks like France as a birth place of BY12112 So far there’s a couple in England one in Norway and one in Spain 4or5 in France to date. I believe it has an approximate birth date or 2300 ybp . I show zero matches to date .
    y group R-BY12112 MTDNA T2b

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    I sent request to join
    y group R-BY12112 MTDNA T2b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brousse View Post
    I recently did the Big Y700 my new Haplogroup is R-BY12112 .I have no Y matches at that level but do have 10 Bruce surnamed matches in Y12 through Y67 .I have 4 false non surname matches 2 at the Y25 level but they don’t match me beyond that and 2 Y12 non surname matches but both are a different haplogroup . My Y line descends from a French “minor” royal French family with my 8th Great Grandfather being an exiled Huguenot who arrived in the Virginia colony in 1700. He anglicized his name from Jacques Brousse to James Bruce . He was a tanner merchant and was a type of landlord and registered his coat of arms in Virginia . Being all my Bruce matches are in America I am kind of shocked that no Brousse in France of Canada or even Louisiana has Y tested. I understand Brousse is a super common French surname. Out of the other BY12112 I don’t come anywhere near matching their DYSs . One uncommon marker all my matches carry is DYS 385 =11-12.
    Would you also consider joining the DF27 project at FTDNA. Also, you can upload your raw data to Ytree.net. I believe Alex does the analysis for free.

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    I already am member of DF27 group under my current surname spelling of Bruce kit 148371
    Last edited by Brousse; 05-20-2021 at 01:36 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacUalraig View Post
    Did you upload your data to YFull.com?
    I haven't done this in awhile but it has come up a couple of times in the last week so I reran my spreadsheet calculations.
    As of last year June 8th, the FTDNA tree for R1b was 4.1 times larger than YFull's.
    As of May 18th, two days ago, the FTDNA tree for R1b was 4.6 times larger so the gap continues to widen.
    Overall, across all haplogroups, the FTDNA tree is about twice as large.

    R-BY12112 is an applicable example. Here is the location on the FTDNA haplotree.
    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...name=R-BY12112
    FTDNA has 12 branches descending from R-BY12112.

    There is only one branch under R-BY12112 on the YFull tree.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY12112/
    Last edited by TigerMW; 05-20-2021 at 02:37 PM.

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