How much Middle Eastern ancestry do Ashkenazim have?

[Claudio]

No I don’t have the genetic profile of a Berber.

Do you have recent non North African ancestry?
Is your genetic profile not typical of Moroccans?

[Gentica277282]

Do you have recent non North African ancestry?
Is your genetic profile not typical of Moroccans?

I’m an outlier

I don’t even have the genetic profile of an average city Moroccan let alone a Berber

[Levantine_Viking]

No I don’t have the genetic profile of a Berber.

Mixed berber arab?
I have friends whom are half herber half bedouin, not sure how common. But you have high ibero

[Gentica277282]

Mixed berber arab?
I have friends whom are half herber half bedouin, not sure how common. But you have high ibero

I’m below average for ibm by a lot, I seem more related to Neolithic southern Levantine populations

We would need Dzudzuana for a better understanding of the situation

[Gentica277282]

Mixed berber arab?
I have friends whom are half herber half bedouin, not sure how common. But you have high ibero

Also let’s not forget the ancient antiquity Arabs had only 4 percent Iranian compared to Saudi 36 percent Iranian, whereas the North African antiquity sample hasn’t changed much. So I would consider modern Arabs to be mixed with Iranian.

I think 36 percent is a lot to ignore and it’s clearly not part of their ancestral stream

The two historic Syrian samples derive the majority of their ancestry from Neolithic Levantine populations (Levant_N, 91.3%) as well as minor proportions from Neolithic Iran (Iran_N, 4.1%) and European hunter-gatherers (WHG, 4.6%)

Saudi derived more than half of their ancestry from Levant_N (63.4%), and the rest from Iran_N (36.1%) and Yoruba (0.5%)

[Levantine_Viking]

Maybe Gentica is implying that some Levantine was mediated into Ashkenazim via Gentile Imperial Romans?

Even if that is the case, it still doesn't say how much levantine/Middle eastern/west asian Jews have, and surely they have more than 20 percent from those models.

[Levantine_Viking]

Also let’s not forget the ancient antiquity Arabs had only 4 percent Iranian compared to Saudi 36 percent Iranian, whereas the North African antiquity sample hasn’t changed much. So I would consider modern Arabs to be mixed with Iranian.

I think 36 percent is a lot to ignore and it’s clearly not part of their ancestral stream

The two historic Syrian samples derive the majority of their ancestry from Neolithic Levantine populations (Levant_N, 91.3%) as well as minor proportions from Neolithic Iran (Iran_N, 4.1%) and European hunter-gatherers (WHG, 4.6%)

Saudi derived more than half of their ancestry from Levant_N (63.4%), and the rest from Iran_N (36.1%) and Yoruba (0.5%)

Where did the influx of iranian come from in Arabs later?

[Levantine_Viking]

Where did the influx of iranian come from in Arabs later?

Yeah seems yemenites and Somalia share natufian dna but lack the large Iran component

[drobbah]

Where did the influx of iranian come from in Arabs later?

The original Arabic speakers were probably similar to the Jordan EBA samples, so they were probably already heavy in Neolithic Iranian ancestry prior to entering the Arabian Peninsula and this extends to all other Semitic speakers in Arabia or groups who have ancestry from non-Arabic speaking Arabian Semites.There's a reason why Ethio-Semites and Cushites who have non-Arab Semitic ancestry from Yemen also carry Neolithic Iranian ancestry

[Gentica277282]

The original Arabic speakers were probably similar to the Jordan EBA samples, so they were probably already heavy in Neolithic Iranian ancestry prior to entering the Arabian Peninsula and this extends to all other Semitic speakers in Arabia or groups who have ancestry from non-Arabic speaking Arabian Semites.There's a reason why Ethio-Semites and Cushites who have non-Arab Semitic ancestry from Yemen also carry Neolithic Iranian ancestry

Whatever that case that Iranian ancestry came later. Like you said they’re similar to the levant jordan eba samples who then selves are somewhere in between who entered the region