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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaar View Post
    I received my Full Mitochondrial Sequence (FMS) results from FTDNA and it is N1b2.
    "Haplogroup N1b2 is a branch on the maternal tree of human kind. The woman who started this branch lived at some point between recent generations and 3,200 years ago (Behar et al., 2012b).
    "This lineage is one of the founding lineages among Ashkenazi Jews. It is a significant percentage of maternal lineages among them. However, it is rare outside of this isolated population, making its exact origin unclear."
    There is more recent information. N1b2 is older than 3200 years:
    Sample #I2431, 4725-4605 calBCE, Bulgaria Middle Chalcolithic, Ivanono, Bulgaria is N1b2. His Y-haplogroup is G2a2b2a1a1c1a.
    That's over 6600 years ago.

    The parent clade, N1b is much older:
    Sample #I1072, 11840-9760 BCE, Natufian, Raqefet Cave, Israel, is N1b. His Y-haplogroup is E1b1b1b2.
    Interesting to see the difference between estimates and dates of ancient samples.

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    But, there is difference between “formed” and “TMRCA”? The statement of (Behar et al., 2012b) means “TMRCA”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaar View Post
    But, there is difference between “formed” and “TMRCA”? The statement of (Behar et al., 2012b) means “TMRCA”.
    Behar’s 2008 and Costa’s 2013 studies were based on modern mtDNA samples. Their TMRCA and time of formation are estimates established by applying statistical calculations to information from modern DNA (and making assumptions about a few things, such as mutation rates.)
    Ancient DNA gives empirical data from the past. It is still not easy to obtain and comparatively rare. In weighing evidence about the past, common sense suggests that information from ancient DNA should supersede estimates based on modern DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fungene View Post
    There is more recent information. N1b2 is older than 3200 years:
    Sample #I2431, 4725-4605 calBCE, Bulgaria Middle Chalcolithic, Ivanono, Bulgaria is N1b2. His Y-haplogroup is G2a2b2a1a1c1a.
    That's over 6600 years ago.

    The parent clade, N1b is much older:
    Sample #I1072, 11840-9760 BCE, Natufian, Raqefet Cave, Israel, is N1b. His Y-haplogroup is E1b1b1b2.
    Interesting to see the difference between estimates and dates of ancient samples.
    I uploaded my mtdna's FASTA file on Yfull. It was N1b2. It turned out to be a new subclade N1b2a formed 15400 ybp, TMRCA 9300 ybp. So far It was found in Yemen and Somalia. Is it Natufian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaar View Post
    I uploaded my mtdna's FASTA file on Yfull. It was N1b2. It turned out to be a new subclade N1b2a formed 15400 ybp, TMRCA 9300 ybp. So far It was found in Yemen and Somalia. Is it Natufian?
    Likely.

    Or a population related to them of whom the name/material culture is unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE33 View Post
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    I am posting the primary N1b2 Jewish Full mtDNA sequence here for the benefit of newer members.

    I would like to thank Bennett Greenspan ( https://www.familytreedna.com/ ) for sending me the snapshot image .

    Members are more than welcome to add further information about N1b2.

    Good day to you !
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