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    Turk/Azeri samples in H-Z4469 tree

    Along with a new sample from Turkey, there are now five possibly ethnic Turk/Azeri in the H-Z4469 yfull tree. The other samples are all South Asian. I was wondering what migration event could be associated with the spread of this clade to Turkey-Azerbaijan.

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    The Turkish sample belongs to a study but I am unable to find the study. Might shed some light on the origin of this sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    The Turkish sample belongs to a study but I am unable to find the study. Might shed some light on the origin of this sample.
    It has to be the study being discussed here: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....ish-Population

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    Along with a new sample from Turkey, there are now five possibly ethnic Turk/Azeri in the H-Z4469 yfull tree. The other samples are all South Asian. I was wondering what migration event could be associated with the spread of this clade to Turkey-Azerbaijan.
    Perhaps related to the same very old Metspalu k5 Caucasus component in South Asia.
    Dienekes I recall had initially entitled it Dagestan.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/12...ndo-aryan.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    It has to be the study being discussed here: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....ish-Population
    I see,but unfortunately this sample is not included.
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    It was either likely present in the BMAC, and transmitted through Turkmen migrations, or a less likelier route would be via Romani/Domari populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulin View Post
    It was either likely present in the BMAC, and transmitted through Turkmen migrations,
    So far no sample belonging to this clade has been found in either Southern Central Asia (Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikstan) or in the countries that lie between South Asia and Turkey-Azerbaijan (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq). The TMRCA of the 5 Turkish and Azeri samples is 11,600 ybp, which means the migrating population, whoever they were, must have been diverse/large.
    Last edited by thejkhan; 05-28-2021 at 01:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    So far no sample belonging to this clade has been found in either Southern Central Asia (Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikstan) or in the countries that lie between South Asia and Turkey-Azerbaijan (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq). The TMRCA of the 5 Turkish and Azeri samples is 11,600 ybp, which means the migrating population, whoever they were, must have been diverse/large.
    SC Asia is very under sampled, one of the Azeri shares the same clade with a Bangladeshi individual. This region of Eastern India including what is now Bangladesh was a massive Buddhist center of learning , so individuals from this region must have integrated with local East Iranic populations during the Apogee of Buddhism in SC Asia. Later they were absorbed by Turkic groups prior to entering the Iranian plateau. Thats why you find uniparental markers one would associate with East Iranic populations among Turkic populations much further west.

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    Gypsy possibility should be considered

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