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    The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2,000-year archeogenomic time transe

    Quote Originally Posted by etrusco View Post
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB42866

    The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2,000-year archeogenomic time transect

    Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History

    The origin, development and legacy of the enigmatic Etruscan civilization from the central region of the Italian peninsula known as Etruria has been the subject of scholarly debate for centuries. Here we report a genomic time transect of 82 individuals spanning almost two millennia (800 BCE – 1,000 CE) across Etruria and southern Italy. During the Iron Age, we detect a component of Indo-European-associated steppe ancestry and the lack of recent Anatolian admixture among the putative non-Indo-European-speaking Etruscans. Despite comprising diverse individuals of central European, northern African and Near Eastern ancestry, the local gene pool is largely maintained across the first millennium BCE. This continuity drastically changes during the Roman Imperial period where we report an abrupt population-wide shift to ~50% admixture with eastern Mediterranean ancestry. Finally, we identify northern European components appearing in central Italy during the Early Middle Ages, which thus formed the genetic landscape of present-day Italian populations.
    Awesome!...Is there an actual full paper? Or just this ENA abstract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Awesome!...Is there an actual full paper? Or just this ENA abstract?
    This new work more or less backs up what so many on this site have been posting about central Italy since the Antonio/Moots paper at the end of 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascio View Post
    This new work more or less backs up what so many on this site have been posting about central Italy since the Antonio/Moots paper at the end of 2019.
    Yes it certainly seems like it. I'm looking forward to seeing the Y-DNA and autosomal results of these new samples.

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    The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2,000-year archeogenomic time transe

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    Yes it certainly seems like it. I'm looking forward to seeing the Y-DNA and autosomal results of these new samples.
    Indeed.

    There is an Eastern Med shift (from across the Hellenistic world) during the Imperial Roman period.

    Then a northern shift due more to provincial flight from Noricum, Rhaetia and Pannonia with a bit of Germanic brought in by Ostrogoths and others, especially the Langobards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Yes it certainly seems like it. I'm looking forward to seeing the Y-DNA and autosomal results of these new samples.
    Etruscan maybe predominantly J2? We will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrusco View Post
    Etruscan maybe predominantly J2? We will see.
    Possibly,yes. I hope the paper has plenty of Y and mtdna detail.

    My Z36 could be Cisalpine Gaulish rather than Rhaeto-Norican-Pannonian (more L2??)

    However it's still speculation until we see this paper.
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    The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2,000-year archeogenomic time transe

    The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2,000-year archeogenomic time transect

    The origin, development and legacy of the enigmatic Etruscan civilization from the central region of the Italian peninsula known as Etruria has been the subject of scholarly debate for centuries. Here we report a genomic time transect of 82 individuals spanning almost two millennia (800 BCE – 1,000 CE) across Etruria and southern Italy. During the Iron Age, we detect a component of Indo-European-associated steppe ancestry and the lack of recent Anatolian admixture among the putative non-Indo-European-speaking Etruscans. Despite comprising diverse individuals of central European, northern African and Near Eastern ancestry, the local gene pool is largely maintained across the first millennium BCE. This continuity drastically changes during the Roman Imperial period where we report an abrupt population-wide shift to ~50% admixture with eastern Mediterranean ancestry. Finally, we identify northern European components appearing in central Italy during the Early Middle Ages, which thus formed the genetic landscape of present-day Italian populations.

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB42866

    This was posted elsewhere but too important to not have it's own thread.

    Etrusco commented elsewhere that "It seems for the first time we have a window into a likely purely EEF language, given the fact that etruscans were likely a remnanat of an italian copper age populations."

    However, I think it premature to not take into account the "diverse individuals of central European, northern African and Near Eastern Ancestry" they found across the first millennium BCE. As we know, the Etruscans are sometimes seen as an elite that displaced the Umbrians. While some may balk at that, it is the history that was written (granted, by the Romans) and the IE speaking Romans themselves were ruled by non-IE speaking Etruscans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascio View Post
    Possibly,yes. I hope the paper has plenty of Y and mtdana detail.

    My Z36 could be Cisalpine Gaulish rather than Rhaeto-Norican-Pannonian (more L2??)

    However it's still speculation until we see this paper.
    IIRC richard Rocca said that Z36 was latin/italic

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrusco View Post
    IIRC richard Rocca said that Z36 was latin/italic
    There is no Z36 mentioned in the Moots/Antonio paper for Latin/Italics or anybody else from the Iron Age or Roman Republic periods.

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    I opened up the following for discussion as this thread is only for news and it is too important to not have it's own:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post775690
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