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    ANE in Iran_N

    Who were the ANE population that Dzudzuana like HG interacted with in the Iranian Plateau and how did they get into Hotu Cave sample? Where they escaping the Younger Drayas? Where they distinct from Afontova Gora 3 and the ANE in EHG?

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    It is closer to AG3 than MA1 since no other direct ANE samples are known but some people here could compare it to simulated components to find out. IDK exactly when they arrived but it is probably a pre YD thing. Hotu has more of it because it would have been an east to west migration to it would be more diluted further west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    Hotu has more of it because it would have been an east to west migration to it would be more diluted further west.
    Does North to South across the Caucasus make more sense? The CHG have higher ANE compared to Hotu and Neolithic Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    It is closer to AG3 than MA1 since no other direct ANE samples are known but some people here could compare it to simulated components to find out. IDK exactly when they arrived but it is probably a pre YD thing. Hotu has more of it because it would have been an east to west migration to it would be more diluted further west.
    That's interesting especially if it turns out that ANE population that contributed to Iran_N carried y R2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    Does North to South across the Caucasus make more sense? The CHG have higher ANE compared to Hotu and Neolithic Iran.
    CHG is 22.2% ANE while Ganj Dareh is 21.8% ANE. CHG has more ANE than Ganj Dareh but likely less than Hotu mesolithic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    CHG is 22.2% ANE while Ganj Dareh is 21.8% ANE. CHG has more ANE than Ganj Dareh but likely less than Hotu mesolithic.
    So CHG is basically 50% Common West Eurasian ( proto WHG) 22% ANE and the rest Basal Eurasian

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    CHG,10.4
    MIDDLE_EAST,10
    ANE,2.4
    TAFORALT,1.8
    WHG,0.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    Does North to South across the Caucasus make more sense? The CHG have higher ANE compared to Hotu and Neolithic Iran.
    I think CHG was bit more villabruna shifted than Iran_N and that Iran_N had 10% more ENF shifted. Wezmeh is modelled as 95-6% Hotu + 4-5% Natufian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    CHG is 22.2% ANE while Ganj Dareh is 21.8% ANE. CHG has more ANE than Ganj Dareh but likely less than Hotu mesolithic.

    Iran_N is modelled as 35% ANE, 58% more Basal Dzudzuana and 7% ENA

    Hotu Cave was modelled as nearly half ANE

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrusco View Post
    So CHG is basically 50% Common West Eurasian ( proto WHG) 22% ANE and the rest Basal Eurasian
    In Lazaridis 2018, CHG was thought to have 36% ANE.

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