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    There were no Kshatriya/Rajput/Thakur related thread. Some Ranas were interested to have a look at how various Kshatriya, Rajput, Thakur, Zamindar castes, warrior castes and royal castes throughout South Asia would genetically look like. Since they told me that in their extended families, they marry among and had relatives from Jammu Dogra, Maratha, Rajasthani, UP Rajputs, etc. Many others seem to be of the opinion that they descend from Rajasthani Rajputs and some think of being descended from Punjabi Rajputs as well. So, I kept them first and in a North South manner to see if there's any genetic pattern. There seems to be some geographical and ethno-linguistic pattern. Credit to all those who posted them in this forum.


    Rajasthan
    Rajasthani Rajput (from Jaipur, Chauhan)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 44.02
    2 Baloch 34
    3 NE-Euro 8.8
    4 Caucasian 4.02
    5 Beringian 1.98
    6 Mediterranean 1.59
    7 SW-Asian 1.53
    8 SE-Asian 1.38
    9 Siberian 0.83
    10 Papuan 0.71
    11 American 0.64
    12 NE-Asian 0.5

    Rajasthani Rajput (related to chauhan posted earlier)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.1
    2 Baloch 33.63
    3 NE-Euro 7.56
    4 Caucasian 5.77
    5 SE-Asian 1.97
    6 SW-Asian 1.47
    7 American 1.46
    8 Papuan 0.99
    9 Mediterranean 0.57
    10 Siberian 0.25
    11 NE-Asian 0.15
    12 Beringian 0.07

    Rajasthani Rajput:

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 43.41
    2 Baloch 36.57
    3 NE-Euro 9.25
    4 Caucasian 5.23
    5 NE-Asian 3.26
    6 Beringian 1.06
    7 American 0.73
    8 Mediterranean 0.28
    9 SE-Asian 0.21

    Rajasthani Rajput (Attri)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 44.46
    2 Baloch 35.39
    3 Caucasian 8.08
    4 NE-Euro 5.67
    5 Beringian 2
    6 SW-Asian 1.67
    7 SE-Asian 1.46
    8 American 0.65
    9 Siberian 0.32
    10 Papuan 0.26
    11 E-African 0.03

    Sisodia, most likely Rajasthani Rajput

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.91
    2 Baloch 36.93
    3 Caucasian 8.81
    4 NE-Euro 2.49
    5 SW-Asian 1.57
    6 Mediterranean 1.38
    7 Beringian 0.66
    8 SE-Asian 0.43
    9 NE-Asian 0.35
    10 Pygmy 0.28
    11 San 0.19
    12 American 0.01

    Rajasthani Rajput (related to previous ones)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 41.84
    2 Baloch 35.38
    3 NE-Euro 10.91
    4 Caucasian 6.35
    5 NE-Asian 2.1
    6 Beringian 1.21
    7 SE-Asian 1.18
    8 Pygmy 0.58
    9 Mediterranean 0.2
    10 American 0.15
    11 Siberian 0.09

    Rajasthani Rajput (Katarya)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 43.89
    2 Baloch 32.3
    3 NE-Euro 7.73
    4 Caucasian 7.5
    5 Mediterranean 3.69
    6 Siberian 1.47
    7 NE-Asian 0.81
    8 SW-Asian 0.79
    9 SE-Asian 0.65
    10 Beringian 0.61
    11 American 0.46
    12 W-African 0.1



    Punjab
    Punjabi Muslim Rajput:

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.75
    2 S-Indian 33.08
    3 NE-Euro 11.58
    4 Caucasian 8.85
    5 Mediterranean 1.82
    6 Siberian 1.28
    7 American 0.82
    8 Beringian 0.5
    9 San 0.26
    10 Pygmy 0.05
    11 E-African 0.01

    Punjabi Khokhar Rajput:

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.44
    2 S-Indian 31.19
    3 Caucasian 15.05
    4 NE-Euro 10.28
    5 American 1.97
    6 Siberian 1.59
    7 SW-Asian 1.1
    8 Beringian 0.17
    9 Papuan 0.09
    10 Pygmy 0.08
    11 W-African 0.05

    Punjabi Muslim Rajput (Rana)

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 39.7
    2 S-Indian 32.54
    3 Caucasian 11.04
    4 NE-Euro 10.83
    5 Mediterranean 1.49
    6 Beringian 1.02
    7 American 0.93
    8 NE-Asian 0.79
    9 SE-Asian 0.73
    10 Siberian 0.54
    11 SW-Asian 0.3
    12 Papuan 0.09

    Punjabi Sikh Rajput:

    Population Percent
    1 Baloch 37.48
    2 S-Indian 35.3
    3 NE-Euro 12.13
    4 Caucasian 9.21
    5 NE-Asian 1.48
    6 Mediterranean 1.43
    7 American 1.12
    8 SW-Asian 0.7
    9 Beringian 0.53
    10 Papuan 0.28
    11 Siberian 0.16
    12 San 0.12
    13 SE-Asian 0.08

    Punjabi Muslim Bhatti Rajput:

    Population Percent
    1 Baloch 44.05
    2 S-Indian 30.12
    3 Caucasian 12.99
    4 NE-Euro 5.69
    5 American 2.56
    6 SW-Asian 1.86
    7 NE-Asian 1.25
    8 Mediterranean 0.95
    9 SE-Asian 0.4
    10 W-African 0.09
    11 Pygmy 0.03

    Pakistani Punjabi Rajput (Khokhar)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.66
    2 S-Indian 36.05
    3 Caucasian 10.25
    4 NE-Euro 6.94
    5 SW-Asian 2.87
    6 American 1.76
    7 Papuan 1.68
    8 Beringian 1.41
    9 NE-Asian 0.25
    10 W-African 0.12
    11 E-African 0.01



    Himalayas
    Dogra/Punjabi Rajput (Minhas)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.10
    2 S-Indian 36.02
    3 NE-Euro 9.23
    4 Caucasian 8.16
    5 NE-Asian 2.31
    6 SW-Asian 1.67
    7 Siberian 1.64
    8 SE-Asian 1.45

    Punjabi Sikh Rajput (salaria, apparently Salarias /Sulehria are Dogras originally)

    Population Percent
    1 Baloch 40.33
    2 S-Indian 32.9
    3 Caucasian 10.95
    4 NE-Euro 8.55
    5 American 2.64
    6 Siberian 1.54
    7 Mediterranean 1.5
    8 NE-Asian 0.51
    9 E-African 0.42
    10 SW-Asian 0.35
    11 Papuan 0.3

    Jammu Rajput:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 40.73
    2 S-Indian 33.83
    3 Caucasian 13.64
    4 NE-Euro 8.46
    5 Beringian 1.12
    6 W-African 0.78
    7 SW-Asian 0.46
    8 American 0.42
    9 SE-Asian 0.21
    10 Siberian 0.2
    11 Papuan 0.12
    12 NE-Asian 0.02

    Katwal- Himachali Rajput?
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 36.04
    2 Baloch 36
    3 NE-Euro 7.89
    4 Caucasian 7.72
    5 Siberian 3.18
    6 SE-Asian 3.11
    7 American 2.46
    8 NE-Asian 2.42
    9 Mediterranean 0.82
    10 Beringian 0.2
    11 Papuan 0.16

    Himachali Rajput (Thakur) from Shimla 52601 SNPs used in this evaluation
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 40.47
    2 Baloch 33.64
    3 Caucasian 9.04
    4 NE-Asian 6.5
    5 NE-Euro 3.86
    6 American 2.54
    7 SE-Asian 1.98
    8 Siberian 1.14
    9 Beringian 0.48
    10 Papuan 0.36

    Himachali Rajput (Thakur) from Shimla 52512 SNPs used in this evaluation 3500cM relative of above kit.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 38.99
    2 Baloch 33.52
    3 Caucasian 10.94
    4 NE-Asian 6.23
    5 NE-Euro 3.36
    6 American 3.05
    7 Siberian 1.68
    8 SE-Asian 1.2
    9 Papuan 1.03

    Himachali Rajput from Mandi (dhw's dad)
    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.28
    2 Baloch 28.50
    3 NE-Asian 16.10
    4 NE-Euro 6.18
    5 Siberian 3.32
    6 American 2.42
    7 Caucasian 2.27
    8 SE-Asian 1.77
    9 Papuan 1.41
    10 Beringian 1.12
    11 SW-Asian 1.04

    Garhwali Uttarakhand Rajput (Rawat)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 34.22
    2 Baloch 25.1
    3 NE-Asian 21.39
    4 NE-Euro 6.15
    5 Caucasian 4.13
    6 Siberian 4.04
    7 SE-Asian 2.01
    8 Beringian 1.07
    9 SW-Asian 0.9
    10 American 0.73
    11 Papuan 0.26

    Garhwali Uttarakhand Rajput (Khetwal)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 33.85
    2 Baloch 25.47
    3 NE-Asian 20.87
    4 Siberian 4.34
    5 Caucasian 3.97
    6 SE-Asian 3.73
    7 NE-Euro 3.45
    8 Mediterranean 2.7
    9 SW-Asian 0.88
    10 American 0.4
    11 Papuan 0.35

    Kumaoni (uttrakhand) Rajput (Almiya)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.11
    2 Baloch 25.41
    3 NE-Asian 20.37
    4 Caucasian 5.8
    5 Siberian 4.66
    6 NE-Euro 3.68
    7 American 1.47
    8 Papuan 1.34
    9 SE-Asian 1.03
    10 Mediterranean 0.5
    11 Beringian 0.26
    12 SW-Asian 0.22
    13 Pygmy 0.15

    Farwest Nepali Thakuri (Malla) - 171494 SNPs used in this evaluation close to Kumaon border.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 31.41
    2 NE-Asian 26.29
    3 Baloch 23.84
    4 Caucasian 7.43
    5 NE-Euro 3.56
    6 Siberian 3.55
    7 Beringian 1.2
    8 American 1.05
    9 Mediterranean 0.68
    10 Papuan 0.6
    11 SW-Asian 0.36
    12 SE-Asian 0.03

    Nepali Chhetri

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 32.96
    2 Baloch 26.62
    3 NE-Asian 19.37
    4 NE-Euro 7.58
    5 Caucasian 4.89
    6 Siberian 2.99
    7 American 1.52
    8 SE-Asian 1.45
    9 Papuan 1.15

    Surname : Nepal (Khatri Chhetri) SNPs used in this evaluation: 179957. From Kaski district (Nepal).
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 31.53
    2 Baloch 25.48
    3 NE-Asian 19.84
    4 NE-Euro 8.29
    5 Caucasian 6.87
    6 Siberian 4.51
    7 SW-Asian 1.07
    8 American 1
    9 SE-Asian 0.85
    10 Papuan 0.51
    11 Beringian 0.05

    Nepali Khatri Chhetri (Bhandari)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 32.7
    2 Baloch 26.32
    3 NE-Asian 18.68
    4 NE-Euro 6.59
    5 Caucasian 4.95
    6 Siberian 4.53
    7 SE-Asian 2.06
    8 Mediterranean 2.04
    9 Beringian 1.78
    10 Papuan 0.25
    11 SW-Asian 0.1

    Nepali Khas Chhetri (Karki):
    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.37
    2 Baloch 27.56
    3 NE-Asian 18.51
    4 NE-Euro 7.3
    5 Caucasian 5.29
    6 Siberian 3.08
    7 American 1.53
    8 SE-Asian 0.88
    9 Beringian 0.24
    10 San 0.23

    Last name Khatri (Khatri Chhetri). Matches with Basnet. I think some of his NE-Asian got read into SE-Asian.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 31.89
    2 Baloch 30.55
    3 NE-Asian 12.82
    4 NE-Euro 9.36
    5 SE-Asian 4.5
    6 Mediterranean 3.1
    7 Siberian 2.78
    8 Caucasian 2.04
    9 SW-Asian 1.5
    10 Papuan 0.73
    11 San 0.53
    12 Beringian 0.21

    Nepali Khas Chhetri (Basnet) SNPs used in this evaluation: 170989.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 30.19
    2 Baloch 25.39
    3 NE-Asian 20.58
    4 NE-Euro 10.53
    5 Caucasian 5.01
    6 Siberian 4.44
    7 Mediterranean 1.35



    Ganges
    West UP rajput (sengar)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 42.8
    2 Baloch 34.52
    3 NE-Euro 8.96
    4 Caucasian 6.89
    5 SE-Asian 2.2
    6 Siberian 1.2
    7 Mediterranean 1.09
    8 NE-Asian 1
    9 American 0.87
    10 Papuan 0.38
    11 SW-Asian 0.09

    Thakurs. West UP Rajputs
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 42.25
    2 Baloch 36.85
    3 NE-Euro 8.51
    4 Caucasian 6.41
    5 Beringian 1.39
    6 NE-Asian 1.32
    7 Mediterranean 1.25
    8 Papuan 1.22
    9 Siberian 0.61
    10 Pygmy 0.19

    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 44.25
    2 Baloch 35.77
    3 NE-Euro 8.22
    4 Caucasian 4.38
    5 Mediterranean 2.68
    6 Siberian 1.46
    7 SE-Asian 1.39
    8 Beringian 1.29
    9 E-African 0.25
    10 American 0.17
    11 Papuan 0.08
    12 NE-Asian 0.06

    Bihari Rajput, Bhojpuri from Arrah.

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 43.39
    2 Baloch 33.66
    3 NE-Euro 8.59
    4 Caucasian 6.25
    5 American 2.25
    6 SE-Asian 1.86
    7 Siberian 1.29
    8 Mediterranean 0.98
    9 Papuan 0.95
    10 NE-Asian 0.53
    11 Beringian 0.13
    12 SW-Asian 0.12

    Shweta Singh Kirti. Bollywood actor Sushant Singh Rajput's Sister. Bihari Maithil Rajput
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.1
    2 Baloch 33.63
    3 NE-Euro 7.56
    4 Caucasian 5.77
    5 SE-Asian 1.97
    6 SW-Asian 1.47
    7 American 1.46
    8 Papuan 0.99
    9 Mediterranean 0.57
    10 Siberian 0.25
    11 NE-Asian 0.15
    12 Beringian 0.07



    Southern
    Marathi Rajput (Shirole)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 48.45
    2 Baloch 36.42
    3 NE-Euro 6.91
    4 Caucasian 2.93
    5 Mediterranean 1.36
    6 Siberian 1.09
    7 Beringian 0.89
    8 Papuan 0.78
    9 SE-Asian 0.67
    10 American 0.5

    Raje ( Maratha Royal house ?/ 96 Kuli Maratha ?)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 49.24
    2 Baloch 33.44
    3 Caucasian 5.37
    4 NE-Euro 4.48
    5 SW-Asian 2.63
    6 Siberian 1.97
    7 NE-Asian 0.79
    8 Papuan 0.66
    9 Beringian 0.62
    10 San 0.43
    11 Mediterranean 0.37

    Tanavde ( Kuli Maratha ?)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 53.29
    2 Baloch 33
    3 NE-Euro 3.86
    4 Mediterranean 1.7
    5 Papuan 1.52
    6 Caucasian 1.37
    7 NE-Asian 1.17
    8 Beringian 1.13
    9 SE-Asian 1.01
    10 SW-Asian 0.93
    11 American 0.74
    12 Siberian 0.2
    13 San 0.09

    Surname: Redkar (probably Maratha?)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 56.9
    2 Baloch 32.22
    3 Caucasian 2.97
    4 NE-Euro 2.92
    5 SE-Asian 2.08
    6 Papuan 0.86
    7 Siberian 0.69
    8 Mediterranean 0.5
    9 SW-Asian 0.44
    10 Beringian 0.29
    11 Pygmy 0.13

    Sawant. Maratha

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 57.64
    2 Baloch 28.84
    3 NE-Asian 2.69
    4 Caucasian 2.58
    5 SW-Asian 2.54
    6 SE-Asian 2.05
    7 Papuan 1.65
    8 Mediterranean 1.24
    9 NE-Euro 0.59
    10 Beringian 0.19

    Telgu Raju:
    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 47.3
    2 Baloch 37.55
    3 Caucasian 5.75
    4 NE-Euro 5.18
    5 Beringian 1.06
    6 SE-Asian 0.99
    7 American 0.71
    8 Papuan 0.59
    9 Siberian 0.48
    10 SW-Asian 0.41

    Telgu Raju:

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 48.18
    2 Baloch 35.5
    3 NE-Euro 6.85
    4 Caucasian 5.14
    5 NE-Asian 1.47
    6 Papuan 0.91
    7 American 0.61
    8 SW-Asian 0.51
    9 Pygmy 0.44
    10 SE-Asian 0.21
    11 Mediterranean 0.17

    Kerala Nairs

    Menon
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.25
    2 Baloch 37.04
    3 Caucasian 6.39
    4 SW-Asian 2.65
    5 NE-Euro 2.64
    6 SE-Asian 1.48
    7 Papuan 0.9
    8 Siberian 0.86
    9 American 0.71
    10 Beringian 0.65
    11 NE-Asian 0.31
    12 E-African 0.13

    another very typical nair( menon)....
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 47.56
    2 Baloch 37.84
    3 Caucasian 5.45
    4 NE-Euro 4.12
    5 SW-Asian 2.07
    6 Siberian 1.73
    7 American 1.09

    Nair
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 47.49
    2 Baloch 35.49
    3 Caucasian 6.07
    4 SW-Asian 3.38
    5 NE-Euro 2.8
    6 Papuan 1.6
    7 Siberian 1.33
    8 NE-Asian 1.29
    9 Mediterranean 0.21
    10 American 0.18
    11 San 0.14
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    Punjabi Khatris appears as a Kshatriya caste who took to trade.
    Punjabi Khatri (Bedi):

    Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.57
    2 S-Indian 29.37
    3 Caucasian 15.07
    4 NE-Euro 11.61
    5 Siberian 2.12
    6 SW-Asian 1.63
    7 American 1.09
    8 Beringian 0.4
    9 SE-Asian 0.14

    Malhotra
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.4
    2 S-Indian 29.55
    3 Caucasian 16.65
    4 NE-Euro 10.08
    5 SW-Asian 1.39
    6 American 0.93
    7 Siberian 0.76
    8 NE-Asian 0.67
    9 Beringian 0.63
    10 Mediterranean 0.54
    11 Papuan 0.35
    12 SE-Asian 0.03
    13 San 0.02

    Kapoor
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.89
    2 S-Indian 30.08
    3 Caucasian 15.35
    4 NE-Euro 10.96
    5 Beringian 1.14
    6 Siberian 1.06
    7 American 0.97
    8 SW-Asian 0.89
    9 Papuan 0.57
    10 NE-Asian 0.07

    Thapar
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 37.88
    2 S-Indian 28.57
    3 Caucasian 15.73
    4 NE-Euro 10.49
    5 SW-Asian 1.9
    6 NE-Asian 1.78
    7 Mediterranean 1.44
    8 American 1.23
    9 Siberian 0.97

    Chhabra
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.71
    2 S-Indian 27.28
    3 Caucasian 17.44
    4 NE-Euro 9.11
    5 SW-Asian 2.28
    6 Siberian 1.94
    7 SE-Asian 1.14
    8 Papuan 0.67
    9 Beringian 0.57
    10 Mediterranean 0.41
    11 American 0.27
    12 San 0.18

    Punjabi Khatri (Sarin), again quite high Caucasian!

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.67
    2 S-Indian 29.2
    3 Caucasian 19.53
    4 NE-Euro 11.65
    5 American 1.42
    6 Siberian 0.87
    7 Beringian 0.48
    8 SW-Asian 0.13
    9 SE-Asian 0.07


    HRP0244 West Bengal Rajput
    S Indian Baloch Caucasian NE Euro SE Asian Siberian NE Asian Papuan American Beringian Mediterranean SW Asian San E African Pygmy W African
    47% 30% 3% 6% 2% 2% 2% 1% 2% 2% 2% 2% 0% 0% 0% 0%


    Nepali Newar Kshatriyas
    Chhathariya Shrestha Newar - Mulepati noble/royal Newar subcaste.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 39.33
    2 S-Indian 28.69
    3 Baloch 16.67
    4 Siberian 5.85
    5 NE-Euro 2.75
    6 SE-Asian 2.67
    7 Mediterranean 1.99
    8 Caucasian 0.8
    9 American 0.7
    10 Papuan 0.55

    related to above Chhathariya Newar Shrestha.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 38.17
    2 S-Indian 28.83
    3 Baloch 17.97
    4 Siberian 4.89
    5 NE-Euro 2.18
    6 SE-Asian 2.02
    7 Caucasian 1.89
    8 Mediterranean 1.68
    9 American 1.39
    10 Papuan 0.98


    Edit: These sources wrote an interesting alternate spellings of Punjabi Khatris (Sereen, Banjai, Sodhi) as "Kshettris" or "Kshettri caste" which I think is to mean "Kshatriya" like in Nepali usage.

    https://books.google.com.np/books?id...6AEwAXoECAQQAg
    https://books.google.com.np/books?id...6AEwAHoECAUQAg
    https://books.google.com.np/books?id...6AEwAHoECAUQAg
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    Can you put them on a spreadsheet. I guess we had one here on this forum but it hasn't been updated.
    Only Punjabi samples and the two Himalayan ones (Salaria and Jammu) look similar to my families results.

    My mother's Harappa world results; Ancestry kit; SNPs used in this evaluation: 171556
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.56
    2 S-Indian 30.28
    3 Caucasian 14.17
    4 NE-Euro 7.23
    5 SW-Asian 3.09
    6 Siberian 1.3
    7 Beringian 0.9
    8 Mediterranean 0.68
    9 NE-Asian 0.23
    10 Pygmy 0.21
    11 Papuan 0.19
    12 American 0.14
    13 W-African 0.02

    On a related note, are Chauhans of Himanchal the same as those of Rajisthan?
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    distance: 2.13
    sample: Kapisa (Kapisa)
    CG IVCp IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA2 I8728: 42.5
    Dzharkutan1 BA Average: 37.5
    Srubnaya Alakul MLBA Average: 17
    Chokhopani 2700BP Average: 3

    sample: Kapisa:Kapisa-Dad
    distance: 2.0944
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 I8728: 41.5
    Bustan_BA Average: 37
    Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA Average: 19
    Chokhopani_2700BP Average: 2.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    Can you put them on a spreadsheet. I guess we had one here on this forum but it hasn't been updated.
    Only Punjabi samples and the two Himalayan ones (Salaria and Jammu) look similar to my families results.

    My mother's Harappa world results; Ancestry kit; SNPs used in this evaluation: 171556
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.56
    2 S-Indian 30.28
    3 Caucasian 14.17
    4 NE-Euro 7.23
    5 SW-Asian 3.09
    6 Siberian 1.3
    7 Beringian 0.9
    8 Mediterranean 0.68
    9 NE-Asian 0.23
    10 Pygmy 0.21
    11 Papuan 0.19
    12 American 0.14
    13 W-African 0.02

    On a related note, are Chauhans of Himanchal the same as those of Rajisthan?
    What kind of Rajput is your mother?

    Many claim to have origins in Rajasthan plain. Tbh, Im not a Himachali so Im not in a position to say whether they're Rajasthani Rajputs or not.

    Edit: https://books.google.com.np/books?id...rajput&f=false

    In Uttarakhand, there were mentioned to be two types of Rajputs- Ashal Rajputs (Thuljat) who came from the Rajasthan plains while Khas Rajputs (Jimdar) were local. So, it could be similar cases of local and plain immigrant Rajputs in Himachal.
    Last edited by Kaazi; 07-02-2021 at 03:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaazi View Post
    There were no Kshatriya/Rajput/Thakur related thread. Some Ranas were interested to have a look at how various Kshatriya, Rajput, Thakur, Zamindar castes, warrior castes and royal castes throughout South Asia would genetically look like. Since they told me that in their extended families, they marry among and had relatives from Jammu Dogra, Maratha, Rajasthani, UP Rajputs, etc. Many others seem to be of the opinion that they descend from Rajasthani Rajputs and some think of being descended from Punjabi Rajputs as well. So, I kept them first and in a North South manner to see if there's any genetic pattern. There seems to be some geographical and ethno-linguistic pattern. Credit to all those who posted them in this forum.


    Rajasthan
    Rajasthani Rajput (from Jaipur, Chauhan)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 44.02
    2 Baloch 34
    3 NE-Euro 8.8
    4 Caucasian 4.02
    5 Beringian 1.98
    6 Mediterranean 1.59
    7 SW-Asian 1.53
    8 SE-Asian 1.38
    9 Siberian 0.83
    10 Papuan 0.71
    11 American 0.64
    12 NE-Asian 0.5

    Rajasthani Rajput (related to chauhan posted earlier)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.1
    2 Baloch 33.63
    3 NE-Euro 7.56
    4 Caucasian 5.77
    5 SE-Asian 1.97
    6 SW-Asian 1.47
    7 American 1.46
    8 Papuan 0.99
    9 Mediterranean 0.57
    10 Siberian 0.25
    11 NE-Asian 0.15
    12 Beringian 0.07

    Rajasthani Rajput:

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 43.41
    2 Baloch 36.57
    3 NE-Euro 9.25
    4 Caucasian 5.23
    5 NE-Asian 3.26
    6 Beringian 1.06
    7 American 0.73
    8 Mediterranean 0.28
    9 SE-Asian 0.21

    Rajasthani Rajput (Attri)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 44.46
    2 Baloch 35.39
    3 Caucasian 8.08
    4 NE-Euro 5.67
    5 Beringian 2
    6 SW-Asian 1.67
    7 SE-Asian 1.46
    8 American 0.65
    9 Siberian 0.32
    10 Papuan 0.26
    11 E-African 0.03

    Sisodia, most likely Rajasthani Rajput

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.91
    2 Baloch 36.93
    3 Caucasian 8.81
    4 NE-Euro 2.49
    5 SW-Asian 1.57
    6 Mediterranean 1.38
    7 Beringian 0.66
    8 SE-Asian 0.43
    9 NE-Asian 0.35
    10 Pygmy 0.28
    11 San 0.19
    12 American 0.01

    Rajasthani Rajput (related to previous ones)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 41.84
    2 Baloch 35.38
    3 NE-Euro 10.91
    4 Caucasian 6.35
    5 NE-Asian 2.1
    6 Beringian 1.21
    7 SE-Asian 1.18
    8 Pygmy 0.58
    9 Mediterranean 0.2
    10 American 0.15
    11 Siberian 0.09

    Rajasthani Rajput (Katarya)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 43.89
    2 Baloch 32.3
    3 NE-Euro 7.73
    4 Caucasian 7.5
    5 Mediterranean 3.69
    6 Siberian 1.47
    7 NE-Asian 0.81
    8 SW-Asian 0.79
    9 SE-Asian 0.65
    10 Beringian 0.61
    11 American 0.46
    12 W-African 0.1



    Punjab
    Punjabi Muslim Rajput:

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.75
    2 S-Indian 33.08
    3 NE-Euro 11.58
    4 Caucasian 8.85
    5 Mediterranean 1.82
    6 Siberian 1.28
    7 American 0.82
    8 Beringian 0.5
    9 San 0.26
    10 Pygmy 0.05
    11 E-African 0.01

    Punjabi Khokhar Rajput:

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.44
    2 S-Indian 31.19
    3 Caucasian 15.05
    4 NE-Euro 10.28
    5 American 1.97
    6 Siberian 1.59
    7 SW-Asian 1.1
    8 Beringian 0.17
    9 Papuan 0.09
    10 Pygmy 0.08
    11 W-African 0.05

    Punjabi Muslim Rajput (Rana)

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 39.7
    2 S-Indian 32.54
    3 Caucasian 11.04
    4 NE-Euro 10.83
    5 Mediterranean 1.49
    6 Beringian 1.02
    7 American 0.93
    8 NE-Asian 0.79
    9 SE-Asian 0.73
    10 Siberian 0.54
    11 SW-Asian 0.3
    12 Papuan 0.09

    Punjabi Sikh Rajput:

    Population Percent
    1 Baloch 37.48
    2 S-Indian 35.3
    3 NE-Euro 12.13
    4 Caucasian 9.21
    5 NE-Asian 1.48
    6 Mediterranean 1.43
    7 American 1.12
    8 SW-Asian 0.7
    9 Beringian 0.53
    10 Papuan 0.28
    11 Siberian 0.16
    12 San 0.12
    13 SE-Asian 0.08

    Punjabi Muslim Bhatti Rajput:

    Population Percent
    1 Baloch 44.05
    2 S-Indian 30.12
    3 Caucasian 12.99
    4 NE-Euro 5.69
    5 American 2.56
    6 SW-Asian 1.86
    7 NE-Asian 1.25
    8 Mediterranean 0.95
    9 SE-Asian 0.4
    10 W-African 0.09
    11 Pygmy 0.03

    Pakistani Punjabi Rajput (Khokhar)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.66
    2 S-Indian 36.05
    3 Caucasian 10.25
    4 NE-Euro 6.94
    5 SW-Asian 2.87
    6 American 1.76
    7 Papuan 1.68
    8 Beringian 1.41
    9 NE-Asian 0.25
    10 W-African 0.12
    11 E-African 0.01



    Himalayas
    Dogra/Punjabi Rajput (Minhas)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.10
    2 S-Indian 36.02
    3 NE-Euro 9.23
    4 Caucasian 8.16
    5 NE-Asian 2.31
    6 SW-Asian 1.67
    7 Siberian 1.64
    8 SE-Asian 1.45

    Punjabi Sikh Rajput (salaria, apparently Salarias /Sulehria are Dogras originally)

    Population Percent
    1 Baloch 40.33
    2 S-Indian 32.9
    3 Caucasian 10.95
    4 NE-Euro 8.55
    5 American 2.64
    6 Siberian 1.54
    7 Mediterranean 1.5
    8 NE-Asian 0.51
    9 E-African 0.42
    10 SW-Asian 0.35
    11 Papuan 0.3

    Jammu Rajput:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 40.73
    2 S-Indian 33.83
    3 Caucasian 13.64
    4 NE-Euro 8.46
    5 Beringian 1.12
    6 W-African 0.78
    7 SW-Asian 0.46
    8 American 0.42
    9 SE-Asian 0.21
    10 Siberian 0.2
    11 Papuan 0.12
    12 NE-Asian 0.02

    Katwal- Himachali Rajput?
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 36.04
    2 Baloch 36
    3 NE-Euro 7.89
    4 Caucasian 7.72
    5 Siberian 3.18
    6 SE-Asian 3.11
    7 American 2.46
    8 NE-Asian 2.42
    9 Mediterranean 0.82
    10 Beringian 0.2
    11 Papuan 0.16

    Himachali Rajput (Thakur) from Shimla 52601 SNPs used in this evaluation
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 40.47
    2 Baloch 33.64
    3 Caucasian 9.04
    4 NE-Asian 6.5
    5 NE-Euro 3.86
    6 American 2.54
    7 SE-Asian 1.98
    8 Siberian 1.14
    9 Beringian 0.48
    10 Papuan 0.36

    Himachali Rajput (Thakur) from Shimla 52512 SNPs used in this evaluation 3500cM relative of above kit.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 38.99
    2 Baloch 33.52
    3 Caucasian 10.94
    4 NE-Asian 6.23
    5 NE-Euro 3.36
    6 American 3.05
    7 Siberian 1.68
    8 SE-Asian 1.2
    9 Papuan 1.03

    Himachali Rajput from Mandi (dhw's dad)
    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.28
    2 Baloch 28.50
    3 NE-Asian 16.10
    4 NE-Euro 6.18
    5 Siberian 3.32
    6 American 2.42
    7 Caucasian 2.27
    8 SE-Asian 1.77
    9 Papuan 1.41
    10 Beringian 1.12
    11 SW-Asian 1.04

    Garhwali Uttarakhand Rajput (Rawat)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 34.22
    2 Baloch 25.1
    3 NE-Asian 21.39
    4 NE-Euro 6.15
    5 Caucasian 4.13
    6 Siberian 4.04
    7 SE-Asian 2.01
    8 Beringian 1.07
    9 SW-Asian 0.9
    10 American 0.73
    11 Papuan 0.26

    Garhwali Uttarakhand Rajput (Khetwal)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 33.85
    2 Baloch 25.47
    3 NE-Asian 20.87
    4 Siberian 4.34
    5 Caucasian 3.97
    6 SE-Asian 3.73
    7 NE-Euro 3.45
    8 Mediterranean 2.7
    9 SW-Asian 0.88
    10 American 0.4
    11 Papuan 0.35

    Kumaoni (uttrakhand) Rajput (Almiya)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.11
    2 Baloch 25.41
    3 NE-Asian 20.37
    4 Caucasian 5.8
    5 Siberian 4.66
    6 NE-Euro 3.68
    7 American 1.47
    8 Papuan 1.34
    9 SE-Asian 1.03
    10 Mediterranean 0.5
    11 Beringian 0.26
    12 SW-Asian 0.22
    13 Pygmy 0.15

    Farwest Nepali Thakuri (Malla) - 171494 SNPs used in this evaluation close to Kumaon border.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 31.41
    2 NE-Asian 26.29
    3 Baloch 23.84
    4 Caucasian 7.43
    5 NE-Euro 3.56
    6 Siberian 3.55
    7 Beringian 1.2
    8 American 1.05
    9 Mediterranean 0.68
    10 Papuan 0.6
    11 SW-Asian 0.36
    12 SE-Asian 0.03

    Nepali Chhetri

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 32.96
    2 Baloch 26.62
    3 NE-Asian 19.37
    4 NE-Euro 7.58
    5 Caucasian 4.89
    6 Siberian 2.99
    7 American 1.52
    8 SE-Asian 1.45
    9 Papuan 1.15

    Surname : Nepal (Khatri Chhetri) SNPs used in this evaluation: 179957. From Kaski district (Nepal).
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 31.53
    2 Baloch 25.48
    3 NE-Asian 19.84
    4 NE-Euro 8.29
    5 Caucasian 6.87
    6 Siberian 4.51
    7 SW-Asian 1.07
    8 American 1
    9 SE-Asian 0.85
    10 Papuan 0.51
    11 Beringian 0.05

    Nepali Khatri Chhetri (Bhandari)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 32.7
    2 Baloch 26.32
    3 NE-Asian 18.68
    4 NE-Euro 6.59
    5 Caucasian 4.95
    6 Siberian 4.53
    7 SE-Asian 2.06
    8 Mediterranean 2.04
    9 Beringian 1.78
    10 Papuan 0.25
    11 SW-Asian 0.1

    Nepali Khas Chhetri (Karki):
    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.37
    2 Baloch 27.56
    3 NE-Asian 18.51
    4 NE-Euro 7.3
    5 Caucasian 5.29
    6 Siberian 3.08
    7 American 1.53
    8 SE-Asian 0.88
    9 Beringian 0.24
    10 San 0.23

    Last name Khatri (Khatri Chhetri). Matches with Basnet. I think some of his NE-Asian got read into SE-Asian.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 31.89
    2 Baloch 30.55
    3 NE-Asian 12.82
    4 NE-Euro 9.36
    5 SE-Asian 4.5
    6 Mediterranean 3.1
    7 Siberian 2.78
    8 Caucasian 2.04
    9 SW-Asian 1.5
    10 Papuan 0.73
    11 San 0.53
    12 Beringian 0.21

    Nepali Khas Chhetri (Basnet) SNPs used in this evaluation: 170989.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 30.19
    2 Baloch 25.39
    3 NE-Asian 20.58
    4 NE-Euro 10.53
    5 Caucasian 5.01
    6 Siberian 4.44
    7 Mediterranean 1.35



    Ganges
    West UP rajput (sengar)

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 42.8
    2 Baloch 34.52
    3 NE-Euro 8.96
    4 Caucasian 6.89
    5 SE-Asian 2.2
    6 Siberian 1.2
    7 Mediterranean 1.09
    8 NE-Asian 1
    9 American 0.87
    10 Papuan 0.38
    11 SW-Asian 0.09

    Thakurs. West UP Rajputs
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 42.25
    2 Baloch 36.85
    3 NE-Euro 8.51
    4 Caucasian 6.41
    5 Beringian 1.39
    6 NE-Asian 1.32
    7 Mediterranean 1.25
    8 Papuan 1.22
    9 Siberian 0.61
    10 Pygmy 0.19

    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 44.25
    2 Baloch 35.77
    3 NE-Euro 8.22
    4 Caucasian 4.38
    5 Mediterranean 2.68
    6 Siberian 1.46
    7 SE-Asian 1.39
    8 Beringian 1.29
    9 E-African 0.25
    10 American 0.17
    11 Papuan 0.08
    12 NE-Asian 0.06

    Bihari Rajput, Bhojpuri from Arrah.

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 43.39
    2 Baloch 33.66
    3 NE-Euro 8.59
    4 Caucasian 6.25
    5 American 2.25
    6 SE-Asian 1.86
    7 Siberian 1.29
    8 Mediterranean 0.98
    9 Papuan 0.95
    10 NE-Asian 0.53
    11 Beringian 0.13
    12 SW-Asian 0.12

    Shweta Singh Kirti. Bollywood actor Sushant Singh Rajput's Sister. Bihari Maithil Rajput
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.1
    2 Baloch 33.63
    3 NE-Euro 7.56
    4 Caucasian 5.77
    5 SE-Asian 1.97
    6 SW-Asian 1.47
    7 American 1.46
    8 Papuan 0.99
    9 Mediterranean 0.57
    10 Siberian 0.25
    11 NE-Asian 0.15
    12 Beringian 0.07



    Southern
    Marathi Rajput (Shirole)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 48.45
    2 Baloch 36.42
    3 NE-Euro 6.91
    4 Caucasian 2.93
    5 Mediterranean 1.36
    6 Siberian 1.09
    7 Beringian 0.89
    8 Papuan 0.78
    9 SE-Asian 0.67
    10 American 0.5

    Raje ( Maratha Royal house ?/ 96 Kuli Maratha ?)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 49.24
    2 Baloch 33.44
    3 Caucasian 5.37
    4 NE-Euro 4.48
    5 SW-Asian 2.63
    6 Siberian 1.97
    7 NE-Asian 0.79
    8 Papuan 0.66
    9 Beringian 0.62
    10 San 0.43
    11 Mediterranean 0.37

    Tanavde ( Kuli Maratha ?)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 53.29
    2 Baloch 33
    3 NE-Euro 3.86
    4 Mediterranean 1.7
    5 Papuan 1.52
    6 Caucasian 1.37
    7 NE-Asian 1.17
    8 Beringian 1.13
    9 SE-Asian 1.01
    10 SW-Asian 0.93
    11 American 0.74
    12 Siberian 0.2
    13 San 0.09

    Surname: Redkar (probably Maratha?)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 56.9
    2 Baloch 32.22
    3 Caucasian 2.97
    4 NE-Euro 2.92
    5 SE-Asian 2.08
    6 Papuan 0.86
    7 Siberian 0.69
    8 Mediterranean 0.5
    9 SW-Asian 0.44
    10 Beringian 0.29
    11 Pygmy 0.13

    Sawant. Maratha

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 57.64
    2 Baloch 28.84
    3 NE-Asian 2.69
    4 Caucasian 2.58
    5 SW-Asian 2.54
    6 SE-Asian 2.05
    7 Papuan 1.65
    8 Mediterranean 1.24
    9 NE-Euro 0.59
    10 Beringian 0.19

    Telgu Raju:
    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 47.3
    2 Baloch 37.55
    3 Caucasian 5.75
    4 NE-Euro 5.18
    5 Beringian 1.06
    6 SE-Asian 0.99
    7 American 0.71
    8 Papuan 0.59
    9 Siberian 0.48
    10 SW-Asian 0.41

    Telgu Raju:

    Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 48.18
    2 Baloch 35.5
    3 NE-Euro 6.85
    4 Caucasian 5.14
    5 NE-Asian 1.47
    6 Papuan 0.91
    7 American 0.61
    8 SW-Asian 0.51
    9 Pygmy 0.44
    10 SE-Asian 0.21
    11 Mediterranean 0.17

    Kerala Nairs

    Menon
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 46.25
    2 Baloch 37.04
    3 Caucasian 6.39
    4 SW-Asian 2.65
    5 NE-Euro 2.64
    6 SE-Asian 1.48
    7 Papuan 0.9
    8 Siberian 0.86
    9 American 0.71
    10 Beringian 0.65
    11 NE-Asian 0.31
    12 E-African 0.13

    another very typical nair( menon)....
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 47.56
    2 Baloch 37.84
    3 Caucasian 5.45
    4 NE-Euro 4.12
    5 SW-Asian 2.07
    6 Siberian 1.73
    7 American 1.09

    Nair
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 47.49
    2 Baloch 35.49
    3 Caucasian 6.07
    4 SW-Asian 3.38
    5 NE-Euro 2.8
    6 Papuan 1.6
    7 Siberian 1.33
    8 NE-Asian 1.29
    9 Mediterranean 0.21
    10 American 0.18
    11 San 0.14
    Excellent compilation bro! Gujarati Rajputs would be of considerable interest as well, if you come across any. I would expect them to be not that different from their Rajasthani counterparts, though there could be a difference owing to the presence of and intermingling with Rajput clans that are unique to Kathiawar and Kutch - Jadeja, Sodha, Parmar and Chudasama who claim descent from Sindhi Samma and Sumra tribes, Kāthi Durbars forming a distinct endogamous unit with mysterious origins (the British hypothesized a Scythian origin for them, though the theory's verity remains untested), Gohils, Rathors and Chauhans migrating from Rajasthan, Solankis from the Gangetic plains/former PGW sites, Vaghelas probably an offshoot of Solankis and numerous other petty "Rajput" clans, many of them emerging from Kolis, Bhils, Mers and other indigenous groups taking on the warrior's identity.
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    Looking at these results, it seems like "Rajputs" across South Asia are basically all different people, who for one reason or another happen to end up with the same title. The Rajput proper (the Kshatriyas, and perhaps Chhetri) may be related to each other, either because they originate from one another, but also because they intermarry. Punjabi Rajputs (not talking about Khatris) are an interesting bunch.

    I have a friend (a Rajput himself) that once theorised that the Punjabi Rajput community is made up of people from various other Punjabi communities, who adopted the title Rajput after gaining land/power. There is some evidence of this recorded history, mainly from the British era. After having consolidated this identity, Rajputs would marry other Rajputs, who may have had a different origin. Even today, in Pakistan, more so than other biradaris, Rajputs prefer to marry amongst themselves.
    This would help explains the variety in Rajput admixture scores.

    Khatris don't seem to be related to Rajputs proper either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    Excellent compilation bro! Gujarati Rajputs would be of considerable interest as well, if you come across any. I would expect them to be not that different from their Rajasthani counterparts, though there could be a difference owing to the presence of and intermingling with Rajput clans that are unique to Kathiawar and Kutch - Jadeja, Sodha, Parmar and Chudasama who claim descent from Sindhi Samma and Sumra tribes, Kāthi Durbars forming a distinct endogamous unit with mysterious origins (the British hypothesized a Scythian origin for them, though the theory's verity remains untested), Gohils, Rathors and Chauhans migrating from Rajasthan, Solankis from the Gangetic plains/former PGW sites, Vaghelas probably an offshoot of Solankis and numerous other petty "Rajput" clans, many of them emerging from Kolis, Bhils, Mers and other indigenous groups taking on the warrior's identity.
    Someone had posted a Gujarati Rajput somewhere and he was no different than Rajasthani ones. I'm interested in their scores as well Sindhi types vs Rajasthani types but they don't seem available currently.

    Yes, Scythian/Hepthalites/Hun invader origin theory is very unlikely. Most of these Kshatriyas simply represent the middle tier of Indo-Aryan expansion since they score decent Steppe (5-9% NE-Euro) less than Brahmins, except Punjabi ones who score like their Brahmins.

    Edit: Oh Kamil posted some Gujarati Rajputs here:
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post782438
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    Those Telugu Rajus seem to be mixed with Kammas or some kind of Caucausian heavy brahmins. Only very few families of Rajus carry such high Caucausian and Balouch levels
    Y: H1a1a4b3b1a8 Yfull id-> YF83218
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    G25 Ancients Dist 1.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 88.4 MAR_Taforalt 2.6NPL_Mebrak 5
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    Looking at these results, it seems like "Rajputs" across South Asia are basically all different people, who for one reason or another happen to end up with the same title. The Rajput proper (the Kshatriyas, and perhaps Chhetri) may be related to each other, either because they originate from one another, but also because they intermarry. Punjabi Rajputs (not talking about Khatris) are an interesting bunch.

    I have a friend (a Rajput himself) that once theorised that the Punjabi Rajput community is made up of people from various other Punjabi communities, who adopted the title Rajput after gaining land/power. There is some evidence of this recorded history, mainly from the British era. After having consolidated this identity, Rajputs would marry other Rajputs, who may have had a different origin. Even today, in Pakistan, more so than other biradaris, Rajputs prefer to marry amongst themselves.
    This would help explains the variety in Rajput admixture scores.

    Khatris don't seem to be related to Rajputs proper either.
    Traditionally Khatris haven't thought of Rajputs highly, as they don't consider them from Vedic lineage. Mostly because the British were obsessed with the martial race theories, and a lot of castes converted in the last few hundred years(Rajputs being a mix of various castes). Khatris already had high status so there was no reason to convert to at best an adjacent caste. Saying that, I am sure some converted.

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    Mongol Xiongnu like autosome found is not properly captured in the Harappa calculator. Some calculator which correctly captures such late IA and Medieval would be able to isolate the Rajput from other groups and properly estimate the after IA Hun or Scythian proportion among them
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