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    1 57.6% Syrian + 42.4% Kurdish @ 2.98
    2 56.6% Syrian + 43.4% Iranian @ 3.14
    3 57.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 42.6% Iranian @ 3.37
    4 52.7% Kurdish + 47.3% Jordanian @ 3.56
    5 59.7% Kurdish + 40.3% Bedouin @ 3.6
    6 74.2% Syrian + 25.8% Abhkasian @ 3.63
    7 57.8% Iranian + 42.2% Samaritan @ 3.68
    8 56.3% Kurdish + 43.7% Palestinian @ 3.73
    9 73.2% Syrian + 26.8% Georgian @ 3.88
    10 53.6% Syrian + 46.4% Azeri @ 3.98
    11 53.9% Iranian + 46.1% Jordanian @ 3.98
    12 73.9% Georgian_Jewish + 26.1% Bedouin @ 4
    13 58.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 41.2% Kurdish @ 4.04
    14 62.1% Palestinian + 37.9% Abhkasian @ 4.04
    15 79.7% Georgian_Jewish + 20.3% Egyptian @ 4.05
    16 64.3% Armenian + 35.7% Bedouin @ 4.05
    17 57.8% Georgian_Jewish + 42.2% Syrian @ 4.07
    18 84.3% Georgian_Jewish + 15.7% Algerian @ 4.14
    19 60.6% Palestinian + 39.4% Georgian @ 4.14
    20 56.9% Kurdish + 43.1% Samaritan @ 4.16

    1 50% Kurdish +50% Syrian @ 3.483
    2 50% Jordanian +50% Kurdish @ 3.513
    3 50% Iranian +50% Syrian @ 3.656
    4 50% Iranian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.868
    5 50% Kurdish +50% Palestinian @ 4.238
    6 50% Iranian +50% Jordanian @ 4.239
    7 50% Azeri +50% Syrian @ 4.331
    8 50% Georgian_Jewish +50% Syrian @ 4.483
    9 50% Iranian +50% Samaritan @ 4.531
    10 50% Kurdish +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.600
    20910 iterations.



    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Azeri +25% Bedouin @ 2.349
    2 50% Iranian_Jewish +25% Balkar +25% Bedouin @ 2.501
    3 50% Iranian_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Ossetian @ 2.510
    4 50% Iranian_Jewish +25% Adygei +25% Bedouin @ 2.577
    5 50% Syrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Iranian @ 2.587
    6 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Egyptian +25% Iranian @ 2.596
    7 50% Iranian_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% North_Ossetian @ 2.705
    8 50% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Kumyk @ 2.708
    9 50% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Adygei +25% Bedouin @ 2.713
    10 50% Kurdish +25% Bedouin +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.748
    275208 iterations.



    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Azeri + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.349
    2 Balkar + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish @ 2.501
    3 Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish + Ossetian @ 2.510
    4 Balkar + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.541
    5 Adygei + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.550
    6 Assyrian + Azeri + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.559
    7 Adygei + Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish @ 2.577
    8 Armenian + Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.581
    9 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.585
    10 Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Syrian + Syrian @ 2.587
    11 Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.596
    12 Bedouin + Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Ossetian @ 2.631
    13 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.646
    14 Abhkasian + Egyptian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.666
    15 Armenian + Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.681
    16 Egyptian + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.687
    17 Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.688
    18 Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.690
    19 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.690

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    It's consistent with your ancestry... and it's also evidence that your bedouin-parent isn't 100% bedouin, perhaps you have some arabized iraqi arab ancestry. That would explain the caucasus-south-west asian like affinity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baibars View Post
    It's consistent with your ancestry... and it's also evidence that your bedouin-parent isn't 100% bedouin, perhaps you have some arabized iraqi arab ancestry. That would explain the caucasus-south-west asian like affinity.
    It would not be strange if there is some native ancestry. I would not doubt there might be some, although my mom's Bedouin clan are endogamous, but even with enodogamy there will be a gene flow. Since she also come from Mosul, althoug before 1921 they were still in the Jebal Shammar today in Saudi Arabia.

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    Using Dodecad K12b:

    Assuming 35-65% Balkar: Your best matches
    11.8 42% Balkars_Y + 58% Yemenese
    12.6 39% Balkars_Y + 61% Egyptans
    14.5 63% Balkars_Y + 37% Saudis
    14.6 53.8% Balkars_Y + 46.2% Yemen_Jews

    17.2 36.4% Balkars_Y + 63.6% Morocco_Jews
    21.7 39.8% Balkars_Y + 60.2% Turkish_D
    21.8 63.4% Balkars_Y + 36.6% Algerian_D
    21.9 38.4% Balkars_Y + 61.6% S_Italian_Sicilian_D
    22.4 39.9% Balkars_Y + 60.1% Sicilian_D
    23.9 53.2% Balkars_Y + 46.8% Turks___
    24.8 61.7% Balkars_Y + 38.3% Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    25.6 53.2% Balkars_Y + 46.8% C_Italian_D
    25.9 45.3% Balkars_Y + 54.7% Greek_D
    26.6 56.9% Balkars_Y + 43.1% O_Italian_D
    26.7 60.6% Balkars_Y + 39.4% TSI30
    26.7 59.2% Balkars_Y + 40.8% Tuscan
    28.2 60.9% Balkars_Y + 39.1% Tajiks_Y
    30.6 45.8% Balkars_Y + 54.2% Nogais_Y
    32 54.2% Balkars_Y + 45.8% Lezgins__
    32.8 62% Balkars_Y + 38% Chechens_Y
    33 47.1% Balkars_Y + 52.9% Adygei

    Assuming ca. 35-65% Bedouin: Best matches
    6.6 37% Bedouin + 63% Iranian_D
    6.9 35% Bedouin + 65% Kurds_Y___
    8.6 38.5% Bedouin + 61.5% Armenians_15_Y
    9 49.3% Bedouin + 50.7% Kumyks_Y
    9.1 37% Bedouin + 63% Iranians
    9.1 38.2% Bedouin + 61.8% Armenian_D
    9.8 45.7% Bedouin + 54.3% Armenians
    10.1 55.7% Bedouin + 44.3% Adygei
    10.2 55.9% Bedouin + 44.1% Chechens_Y
    10.3 56% Bedouin + 44% Lezgins__
    10.4 55.9% Bedouin + 44.1% North_Ossetians_Y
    10.5 55.7% Bedouin + 44.3% Balkars_Y
    11.5 60.4% Bedouin + 39.6% Abhkasians_Y

    12.1 48.2% Bedouin + 51.8% Turkmens_Y
    12.2 38.2% Bedouin + 61.8% Turkish_Aydin_Ho
    12.3 62.4% Bedouin + 37.6% Georgians
    13.9 55.8% Bedouin + 44.2% Nogais_Y
    15.2 36.2% Bedouin + 63.8% Syrians
    16.6 62.3% Bedouin + 37.7% Tajiks_Y
    17 39.1% Bedouin + 60.9% Sephardic_Jews
    17.2 46.1% Bedouin + 53.9% Ashkenazy_Jews
    17.8 45.3% Bedouin + 54.7% Jordanians
    17.9 49.7% Bedouin + 50.3% S_Italian_Sicilian_D
    18.1 47% Bedouin + 53% Ashkenazi_D
    18.2 51% Bedouin + 49% Sicilian_D
    18.5 55.8% Bedouin + 44.2% Greek_D
    18.8 42.3% Bedouin + 57.7% Morocco_Jews
    19.8 61% Bedouin + 39% C_Italian_D
    20.1 63.3% Bedouin + 36.7% O_Italian_D
    21.8 62.2% Bedouin + 37.8% Palestinian

    I know that the Bedouins are very heterogeneous, so the reference population "Bedouin" does not capture that wide range. Anyways, assuming ca. 35-65% Bedouin ancestry gives better predictions than assuming 35-65% Balkar ancestry, so my guess would be that either the Balkars are very heterogeneous as well or you simply don't have 50% Balkar ancestry.
    Last edited by Palisto; 04-22-2014 at 11:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palisto View Post
    Using Dodecad K12b:

    Assuming 35-65% Balkar: Your best matches
    11.8 42% Balkars_Y + 58% Yemenese
    12.6 39% Balkars_Y + 61% Egyptans
    14.5 63% Balkars_Y + 37% Saudis
    14.6 53.8% Balkars_Y + 46.2% Yemen_Jews

    17.2 36.4% Balkars_Y + 63.6% Morocco_Jews
    21.7 39.8% Balkars_Y + 60.2% Turkish_D
    21.8 63.4% Balkars_Y + 36.6% Algerian_D
    21.9 38.4% Balkars_Y + 61.6% S_Italian_Sicilian_D
    22.4 39.9% Balkars_Y + 60.1% Sicilian_D
    23.9 53.2% Balkars_Y + 46.8% Turks___
    24.8 61.7% Balkars_Y + 38.3% Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    25.6 53.2% Balkars_Y + 46.8% C_Italian_D
    25.9 45.3% Balkars_Y + 54.7% Greek_D
    26.6 56.9% Balkars_Y + 43.1% O_Italian_D
    26.7 60.6% Balkars_Y + 39.4% TSI30
    26.7 59.2% Balkars_Y + 40.8% Tuscan
    28.2 60.9% Balkars_Y + 39.1% Tajiks_Y
    30.6 45.8% Balkars_Y + 54.2% Nogais_Y
    32 54.2% Balkars_Y + 45.8% Lezgins__
    32.8 62% Balkars_Y + 38% Chechens_Y
    33 47.1% Balkars_Y + 52.9% Adygei

    Assuming ca. 35-65% Bedouin: Best matches
    6.6 37% Bedouin + 63% Iranian_D
    6.9 35% Bedouin + 65% Kurds_Y___
    8.6 38.5% Bedouin + 61.5% Armenians_15_Y
    9 49.3% Bedouin + 50.7% Kumyks_Y
    9.1 37% Bedouin + 63% Iranians
    9.1 38.2% Bedouin + 61.8% Armenian_D
    9.8 45.7% Bedouin + 54.3% Armenians
    10.1 55.7% Bedouin + 44.3% Adygei
    10.2 55.9% Bedouin + 44.1% Chechens_Y
    10.3 56% Bedouin + 44% Lezgins__
    10.4 55.9% Bedouin + 44.1% North_Ossetians_Y
    10.5 55.7% Bedouin + 44.3% Balkars_Y
    11.5 60.4% Bedouin + 39.6% Abhkasians_Y

    12.1 48.2% Bedouin + 51.8% Turkmens_Y
    12.2 38.2% Bedouin + 61.8% Turkish_Aydin_Ho
    12.3 62.4% Bedouin + 37.6% Georgians
    13.9 55.8% Bedouin + 44.2% Nogais_Y
    15.2 36.2% Bedouin + 63.8% Syrians
    16.6 62.3% Bedouin + 37.7% Tajiks_Y
    17 39.1% Bedouin + 60.9% Sephardic_Jews
    17.2 46.1% Bedouin + 53.9% Ashkenazy_Jews
    17.8 45.3% Bedouin + 54.7% Jordanians
    17.9 49.7% Bedouin + 50.3% S_Italian_Sicilian_D
    18.1 47% Bedouin + 53% Ashkenazi_D
    18.2 51% Bedouin + 49% Sicilian_D
    18.5 55.8% Bedouin + 44.2% Greek_D
    18.8 42.3% Bedouin + 57.7% Morocco_Jews
    19.8 61% Bedouin + 39% C_Italian_D
    20.1 63.3% Bedouin + 36.7% O_Italian_D
    21.8 62.2% Bedouin + 37.8% Palestinian

    I know that the Bedouins are very heterogeneous, so the reference population "Bedouin" does not capture that wide range. Anyways, assuming ca. 35-65% Bedouin ancestry gives better predictions than assuming 35-65% Balkar ancestry, so my guess would be that either the Balkars are very heterogeneous as well or you simply don't have 50% Balkar ancestry.
    Interesting I don't know, but I think the Balkars do in fact have diverse origins. For example they have native Caucasian, Alano-Iranic, and Kipchak ancestry. These components will probably indeed show the diversity present among them and will effect the results. Btw how did you calculate those results? I know the Bedouins are diverse people but they all share a basic origins in Arabia. The Shammar for example are Bedouins who claim to descent from South Arabians, and my mother's clan were recently relocated to Iraq basically after 1921.

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