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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    Seems legit? What do you mean?

    C-Y28069 is just another native South Asian HG lineage like H and K-Y28299.
    Oh yeah, C-P92 is way too old.

    These C-K98 lines were substantial among some Pahadi Brahmin (Kumaon originated) clans like Pathak, Joshi, Tripathi (also the Pathak Brahmin of Kumaon is also C-M130 likely C-K96 of Nepali Pathak Bahuns) and saw Gujarati, Lankan and Bengladeshi as well in Y Full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaazi View Post
    What do we know about C-K96 and C-P92 Y line?

    Seems legit among caste populations.
    It does not show bottlenecked and big clades forming around 1500-3000 B.C and having a widespread Pan-Indian+Central Asian distribution. C-P92 is found in Afghanistan and Tajikistan actually but it probably will be very old clades or clades arriving fairly recently from South Asia (buddhist era migration?, ....). The same is true for Y-DNA H which has a Pan-Indian distribution but shows diversification much earlier than in the Bronze Age. Like with Y-DNA L and J2 it is still possible that some very specific Y-DNA H and C-P92 clades were picked somewhere around Afghanistan and spread by Indo-Iranians into South Asia during the Bronze Age/early Iron Age but for me it is much more likely that most if not all of surviving H and C-P92 subclades represent direct IVC/ASI ancestry in South Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    J2 has been found in both the Mesolithic Caucasus (Kotias Klde) and Iran (Hotu). J1 has also been found in the Late Upper Paleolithic Caucasus and also among Mesolithic remains from northern Russia and Karelia. It certainly is possible that some J existed in the Hissar region during the Mesolithic as well I think.
    Forgive my ignorance, my maternal haplogroup is J1b1, which doesn’t seem to be common in South Indians or Indians in general. I’m guessing it’s not linked to what you’re talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasunk View Post
    Forgive my ignorance, my maternal haplogroup is J1b1, which doesn’t seem to be common in South Indians or Indians in general. I’m guessing it’s not linked to what you’re talking about?
    He's talking about ydna J. Mtdna J1b1 is indeed rare in SA, and found amongst telugus in high %age. One of my tarkhan sample mvirdi has same mtdna as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    He's talking about ydna J. Mtdna J1b1 is indeed rare in SA, and found amongst telugus in high %age. One of my tarkhan sample mvirdi has same mtdna as you.
    Yeah. J1b1 shows up among Kamma significant number
    Y: H1a1a4b3b1a8 Yfull id-> YF83218
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    mtDNA:U2a1a2
    G25 Ancients Dist 1.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 88.4 MAR_Taforalt 2.6NPL_Mebrak 5
    VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA 4 Hidden Content

    Lactose Persistence rs3213871 rs4988243 rs4988183 rs3769005 rs2236783
    found -> DA125, Kangju

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    This was on TV (English Dub) - "Secrets of Sinauli".



    The findings strongly correlates to Vedic Culture as per them. Chariot and Warrior culture, advanced weaponry, burials (3 types- symbolic, full and partial), legged coffins, weapons in female burials (female warriors), royal burials, horse pulled chariot (solid disc), elaborate items in burial, etc.

    And, ASI director in the documentary states no Central Asian or European genetic markers detected in those samples. ?? Them give a this kind of indication "it was Vedic culture but of local origin /no CAsian-Euro (Steppe) marker".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaazi View Post
    This was on TV (English Dub) - "Secrets of Sinauli".



    The findings strongly correlates to Vedic Culture. Chariot and Warrior culture, advanced weaponry, burials (3 types- symbolic, full and partial), legged coffins, weapons in female burials (female warriors), royal burials, horse pulled chariot (solid disc), elaborate items in burial, etc.

    And, ASI director in the documentary states no Central Asian or European genetic markers detected in those samples. ?? Them give a this kind of indication "it was Vedic culture but of local origin /no CAsian-Euro (Steppe) marker".
    Well then they should publish their findings and release data.
     

    distance: 2.13
    sample: Kapisa (Kapisa)
    CG IVCp • IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA2 I8728: 42.5
    Dzharkutan1 BA • Average: 37.5
    Srubnaya Alakul MLBA • Average: 17
    Chokhopani 2700BP • Average: 3

    sample: Kapisa:Kapisa-Dad
    distance: 2.0944
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 • I8728: 41.5
    Bustan_BA • Average: 37
    Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA • Average: 19
    Chokhopani_2700BP • Average: 2.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaazi View Post
    This was on TV (English Dub) - "Secrets of Sinauli".



    The findings strongly correlates to Vedic Culture. Chariot and Warrior culture, advanced weaponry, burials (3 types- symbolic, full and partial), legged coffins, weapons in female burials (female warriors), royal burials, horse pulled chariot (solid disc), elaborate items in burial, etc.

    And, ASI director in the documentary states no Central Asian or European genetic markers detected in those samples. ?? Them give a this kind of indication "it was Vedic culture but of local origin /no CAsian-Euro (Steppe) marker".
    Well, that's a far right, nationalist government for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaazi View Post
    This was on TV (English Dub) - "Secrets of Sinauli".



    The findings strongly correlates to Vedic Culture. Chariot and Warrior culture, advanced weaponry, burials (3 types- symbolic, full and partial), legged coffins, weapons in female burials (female warriors), royal burials, horse pulled chariot (solid disc), elaborate items in burial, etc.

    And, ASI director in the documentary states no Central Asian or European genetic markers detected in those samples. ?? Them give a this kind of indication "it was Vedic culture but of local origin /no CAsian-Euro (Steppe) marker".
    IVC=/=Indo-Aryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaazi View Post
    This was on TV (English Dub) - "Secrets of Sinauli".



    The findings strongly correlates to Vedic Culture. Chariot and Warrior culture, advanced weaponry, burials (3 types- symbolic, full and partial), legged coffins, weapons in female burials (female warriors), royal burials, horse pulled chariot (solid disc), elaborate items in burial, etc.

    And, ASI director in the documentary states no Central Asian or European genetic markers detected in those samples. ?? Them give a this kind of indication "it was Vedic culture but of local origin /no CAsian-Euro (Steppe) marker".
    Where does that statement appear in the video? or did you watch the full documentary somewhere?
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