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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    I'm not sure what that small percentage of Spanish indicates for someone who has all British isles Ireland. The French and even the Scandinavian pull or even German would make sense to me.
    Well it does seem to pull towards France, but mainly Occitanie, and Spain but mainly Soria.

    It could be some sort of Huguenot or old French signal from my English side, as this is common with English people. But it's interesting that I ended up with a couple of percent Spanish and Portuguese on 23andme rather than French. This could fit in with the Gibraltar timeline or else the DeFreitas family's migration to Middlesex. Something might have got confused though and some of our cousins may have married into the family (for instance) rather than us being descended from them.
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    There's loads of Huguenots in Northern Ireland, it's not just England.

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    These are the ancestrydna results and k13 pca of my grandmother and her sister

    They are scots-irish on all sides(as you can evidently see).

    Since they are outside the bounds of any of the samples in k13 and G25 it makes it much more difficult to model my results well lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    There's loads of Huguenots in Northern Ireland, it's not just England.
    This is true, but my French surnames which may be Huguenot are from Essex.

    Non Huguenot French migrants came over as well more recently.

    Probably not related, but an ancestor has a newspaper article about him in which it states he was good friends with a French man (he wasn't famous, but the French guy was).

    So I cannot be sure of why I get these signals, but there could be other explanations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwilson98 View Post
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    These are the ancestrydna results and k13 pca of my grandmother and her sister

    They are scots-irish on all sides(as you can evidently see).

    Since they are outside the bounds of any of the samples in k13 and G25 it makes it much more difficult to model my results well lol
    Those results don't appear to be ulster scots at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    Those results don't appear to be ulster scots at all.
    Why do you say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwilson98 View Post
    Why do you say that?
    To me those results are akin to a person from Donegal or rural western NI. Most of my matches including the Ulster Irish are at least 10% Scots, generally the Ulster Scots people are 65% or greater Scottish. I have found these sort of results in people from Donegal and geographically isolated locations such as Claudy.

    Where did you get the idea that your granny was Ulster Scots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    To me those results are akin to a person from Donegal or rural western NI. Most of my matches including the Ulster Irish are at least 10% Scots, generally the Ulster Scots people are 65% or greater Scottish. I have found these sort of results in people from Donegal and geographically isolated locations such as Claudy.

    Where did you get the idea that your granny was Ulster Scots?
    A Family tree going back 400 years lol

    She had a 3xGG from donegal but the rest were from ulster.

    Idk i guess it may just be an outlier or something

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    If there is no Presbyterian heritage itís unlikely to be there.

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    I've done some questionable plotting using my loose grasp on statistical mathematics, and come up with a visual representation of the accuracy and variability of the different companies my family tested under so far. As it stands, Myheritage and Living DNA have the tightest, closest grouping, with FamilyTreeDNA having the most variance. Ancestry falls way off in the English results, which makes me wonder how it smooths out English DNA or, conversely, west european DNA. I'm not sure how to compare ancestrys model at all, so I made a separate point for the (very simple) averages minus Ancestry results.
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