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    E-M35 Lemba

    Lemba is the mysterious South African people.

    Lemba origins revisited: Tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in South African and Zimbabwean Lemba includes 10 6-marker E-M35 haplotypes E-M35.
    Nevgen prediction results:

    H34: E-M34 Europe&Near East
    H35: E-PH2818 Europe&Near East
    H36: E-PF4428 Europe&Near East
    H37: E-Y6169 - entirely Arabian branch
    H38: E-Y154545 - just have fun
    H39: E-L540 - just have fun again
    H40: E-Y6923 - Jewish clade!
    H41: E-PF2025 - Europe&Jews
    H42: E-E-BY8198 - entirely Arabian branch
    H43: E-Y4972 - Europe&Near East

    Lemba legend about their ancestors from Judea, who migrated 2.5 kya to Yemen and then Africa, seems to be confirmed by H37, H40, H42 haplotypes
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    I think their ancestors were Arabian Muslim merchants who’s descendants forgot Sunni Islam but retained certain Islamic practices such as circumcision which we have in common with the Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farroukh View Post
    Lemba is the mysterious South African people.

    Lemba origins revisited: Tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in South African and Zimbabwean Lemba includes 10 6-marker E-M35 haplotypes E-M35.
    Nevgen prediction results:

    H34: E-M34 Europe&Near East
    H35: E-PH2818 Europe&Near East
    H36: E-PF4428 Europe&Near East
    H37: E-Y6169 - entirely Arabian branch
    H38: E-Y154545 - just have fun
    H39: E-L540 - just have fun again
    H40: E-Y6923 - Jewish clade!
    H41: E-PF2025 - Europe&Jews
    H42: E-E-BY8198 - entirely Arabian branch
    H43: E-Y4972 - Europe&Near East

    Lemba legend about their ancestors from Judea, who migrated 2.5 kya to Yemen and then Africa, seems to be confirmed by H37, H40, H42 haplotypes
    6 markers, though. As much as I'd love to have an E-Y6923 connection here, it's gonna take a lot more proof.
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    Recently a friend sent me a Lemba gentleman's 23andme results, he belonged to a L haplogroup I believe. I don't believe there is any Jewish connection. Perhaps someone else knows more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Live View Post
    Recently a friend sent me a Lemba gentleman's 23andme results, he belonged to a L haplogroup I believe. I don't believe there is any Jewish connection. Perhaps someone else knows more.
    Did the Lemba individual get any non SSA ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Did the Lemba individual get any non SSA ancestry?
    I just checked and he only had trace ancestry <1% "Southern Indian" strangely enough. But at trace levels I assume it can be ambiguous. Paternal haplogroup L-M349. I'd post the results but I don't know if that's okay with the ToS or privacy of the individual. I can PM though if anyone wants.

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    Lemba haplotypes of L haplogroup also are in the article posted in the first message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Live View Post
    I just checked and he only had trace ancestry <1% "Southern Indian" strangely enough. But at trace levels I assume it can be ambiguous. Paternal haplogroup L-M349. I'd post the results but I don't know if that's okay with the ToS or privacy of the individual. I can PM though if anyone wants.
    Some Levantine(Lebanese) and Jews have this haplogroup
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post182718

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    Statistic of Lemba Y-DNA:



    6 of 76 is L-M11

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