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    50% of Albanian samples on vahaduo have some levant admixture. Why is that? Mixing with Greeks or Italians?

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    Idk, those aren't really good fits. But the samples that do sometimes show a signal are spread evenly across the north and south cluster... probably noise. For what it's worth I modelled a few of them indivdually a while back and no levantine showed up once more proximal sources were used. Though like I said; they are spread evenly, I don't know how levantine ancestry could only appear in half of each cluster... that doesn't make sense; as it would have diffused.

    3 of the samples score substantial SSA on the standard calculator rofl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darknorman11 View Post
    Idk, those aren't really good fits. But the samples that do sometimes show a signal are spread evenly across the north and south cluster... probably noise. For what it's worth I modelled a few of them indivdually a while back and no levantine showed up once more proximal sources were used. Though like I said; they are spread evenly, I don't know how levantine ancestry could only appear in half of each cluster... that doesn't make sense; as it would have diffused.

    3 of the samples score substantial SSA on the standard calculator rofl.

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    Still not understanding what you mean by Levantine. All Euros score partial Anatolian Barcin and ANF carries a high proportion of Levant PPNB. Are you talking about Iran samples?
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    Here's mine for perspective:

    Target: Anthony_C_scaled
    Distance: 3.4527% / 0.03452745
    61.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    34.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    2.4 IRN_Wezmeh_N
    1.4 Levant_PPNB

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
    Still not understanding what you mean by Levantine. All Euros score partial Anatolian Barcin and ANF carries a high proportion of Levant PPNB. Are you talking about Iran samples?
    I learned so much since the start of this thread that reading my original posts is cringe inducing. Feel free to ignore it.

    However, by levantine I meant additional near-eastern admixture that wasnt present in the cycladic substrate (present in Myceaneans, Minoans, (even BGR_IA) etc.)
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    I’m guessing this contemporary “SSA” admixture is derived from ACFs, or a Levant_BA source, through both the former and the latter’s Natufian, Iberomaurusian-related ancestry. Probably some sort of deep, non-BEA, ANA/AEA related signal no? I believe all those SSA groups have para, and proto-Eurasian admixture in the form of Ancestral North African, and Ancient/Ancestral East African. They also have more recent, Eurasian admixture from the Levant, and Europe via North Africa (R1b-V88). I think even the Yoruba pick up very minute amounts of Neanderthal DNA.
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