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    is there anyone from Maluku (Indonesia) ?

    Hi

    I'm Kae Lesi

    I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

    Both of my parents from Moluccan...

    My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?

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    Haplogroup N is widely distributed in northern Asia; in your case, I would think a link with Chinese merchants in the most probable; further SNP testing would be needed to see which subclade you belong to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylsteen View Post
    Haplogroup N is widely distributed in northern Asia; in your case, I would think a link with Chinese merchants in the most probable; further SNP testing would be needed to see which subclade you belong to.
    yes, i'm waiting for further results from FTDNA...

    I once read an article: According to anthropologist A.H. Keane, Maluku Island has always been inhabited by ethnic groups, namely the Alifuros, a mixed nation of Caucasus-Mongoloid people and Papuans. Is it related to Haplogroup N which is mostly found in North and Central Asia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kae Lesi View Post
    Hi

    I'm Kae Lesi

    I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

    Both of my parents from Moluccan...

    My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?
    There are two other Moluccan users here btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kae Lesi View Post
    Hi

    I'm Kae Lesi

    I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

    Both of my parents from Moluccan...

    My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?
    Also can you try out this calculator?: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....pdates)/page24

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    Hi I am half Moluccan from Ambonese mother and Romanian Ashkenazi Jewish father.My maternal grandparents were from Hulaliu and Ema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kae Lesi View Post
    yes, i'm waiting for further results from FTDNA...

    I once read an article: According to anthropologist A.H. Keane, Maluku Island has always been inhabited by ethnic groups, namely the Alifuros, a mixed nation of Caucasus-Mongoloid people and Papuans. Is it related to Haplogroup N which is mostly found in North and Central Asia?
    The Indigineous Moluccans are a mix of Austronesians and Papuans.Our Paternal Haplogroups are majority Melanesian and South Eurasian (Australoid) and our Maternal Haplogroups are more Austronesian and East Eurasian (Mongoloid).The first people in Maluku were the common ancestors of Papuans and Aboriginals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kae Lesi View Post
    Hi

    I'm Kae Lesi

    I'm from Maluku / Moluccan

    Both of my parents from Moluccan...

    My Y-DNA is N-M231... I'm very confused... is there someone who can explain it ?
    What islands and villages are your parents descended from?

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