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Thread: DF19 subclade distributions by country

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    DF19 subclade distributions by country

    I posted this in another thread, and thought I'd put it here and add more country results from the FTDNA Group Map:

    A cheat sheet:
    DF88 and Z302 formed in Corded Ware, Single Grave Culture or earliest Beaker
    S4281 and S4268 are Bronze Age
    Z17112 is roughly LBA or Bronze Age Collapse
    anything "below" that is Iron Age or younger.


    Of the 248 DF19s who specifically listed where their MDKA was from, 5 are from Poland (more than there are submitted to the map from France).

    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z17123> Z17126>Z40619 Parchowo [Z17112 has a lot of "sons" and fanned out around NW Europe beginning around the Bronze Age Collapse]
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> Z41639 Karsko/Carzig
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z39816 Wroclaw
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S22352 Pianówka
    DF88* P312>DF19>DF88 Sanok

    ^^The last one, DF88*, is on the San River (which feeds into the Vistula) in SE Poland. There are only two DF88* members in the 549 DF19 member group. The other one has a MDKA from Sokndal, Norway.

    For comparison, according to Yfull, DF19 formed 4500 ybp, TMRCA 4500 ybp; its two oldest/main branches are DF88 and Z302. Per Yfull, DF88 also formed soon after around 4500 ybp, TMRCA 4500 ybp; and Z302 formed 4500 ybp, TMRCA 4400 ybp.

    The oldest known DF19>Z302* is Oostwoud's I5748 who Yfull puts at ~4345 ybp (the calibrated age of the burial is 2579-2211 calBCE which goes right back to ~4500 ybp, so I5748 is theoretically old enough to be the first Z302 or at least know who they were).

    This doesn't prove that this DF88* moved along the suspected Corded Ware path from Ukraine to the Baltic, they could also be something like the descendant of a Viking who travelled the opposite way on the rivers, or some other random traveler who put down roots.
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-07-2021 at 11:26 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Norway. 3 on the map:

    P312>DF19>DF88* Sokndal
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>BY77700 Norderhov
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z43178 Våler

    Sweden (4):
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>BY19338 Välinge
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>Z43773 Sundet, Norrbärke
    Also one DF19+ from Hjulsjö that hasn't done BigY. NevGen says 92% prob. of S17075 (and all known S17075 are also L644+ except for "Britain Roman" 6DRIF23 and one family surname from both England and France)
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z29047>Z30487>FT156223 Kalmar län
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z17125>Z29034 This is VK333 buried in Öland

    Denmark (1):
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> L719>Z30475 Fanefjord
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z21280>BY39845 DK (nonmap)

    Czech Republic:
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z29047>BY61188 Prague
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z29047>BY61188 Zderaz
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-07-2021 at 11:20 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Belgium:
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S22352>Z30474 Glons
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z39228> FGC68465 Oudenaarde
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>FT66914 Hasselt
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>BY19345 Berlaar

    Netherlands:
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S22352>S22748 Dinther
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644> Z28011 Darp
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644> Z28011 Nijensleek
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644> BY73397 Lingewaal
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z29047>Z30487> FT156223 Winterswijk
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> S8381 Sint-Michielsgestel
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> Z41639 Den Dungen

    P312>DF19>Z302* Oostwoud I5748 SGC/Early Beaker ~4400ybp
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193> BY206296 Dokkum

    Also one from Haarlem that hasn’t done BigY but NevGen is 98% sure belongs to my subclade P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243>Z43162
    [will continue in a little while]
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-07-2021 at 11:06 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    France:
    R1b-P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193>BY65070 Grémonville, Normandy
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> Z43820 (this is L644- and the British/French family are closest living Y match to "Britain Roman" 6DT23, sharing at least two SNPs)
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z39816> PH3649 Normandel
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257 Ardennes
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112 Saint-Julien, Hérault not sure if he's Z17112* or this was a SNP pack

    Guyana (this was Dutch and British at varying times):
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644

    Russia:
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193>BY3448
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>Z28019
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> L719>Z30475

    Iceland:
    P312>DF19>Z302

    Switzerland:
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193>BY3448>Z39459 The only other match to this subclade is RMPR31 ("Rome Late Antiquity" ~400AD)

    Isle of Man:
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-07-2021 at 11:37 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    A cheat sheet:
    DF88 and Z302 formed in Corded Ware, Single Grave Culture or earliest Beaker
    S4281 and S4268 are Bronze Age
    Z17112 is roughly LBA or Bronze Age Collapse
    anything "below" that is Iron Age or younger.
    I can’t edit the post with the cheat sheet, but need to add that we know S17075 is at least as old as 200AD because 6DT23 is S17075+
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Using general group data instead of map data for simplicity for the high-reporting countries.

    Ireland:
    P312>DF19>Z39380 This DF19 subclade is in Ireland and Britain -- it is the only DF19 family surname/subclade that is neither DF88 nor Z302
    R1b-P312>DF19>Z302>Z35647 Ballymodan, Cork
    R1b-P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193 Three different subclades (Glenavy (North), Dublin, Galway)
    R1b-P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S22352 Dublin
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>S8137/464QuadC
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>FTA7312 6 Sligo
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>Z28020
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>BY211588 Sligo
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>Z21082 Cavan
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z17123>Z17126>Z40619>BY71776
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z21280>Z21279


    Northern Ireland (if specified):
    P312>DF19>DF88>Z29041>Z17267 This is the same parent subclade of Clan Grant
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>S8137/464QuadC
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> L719


    Wales:
    P312>DF19>Z302>FT162753
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193>Z39458
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644>Y86088
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-09-2021 at 09:09 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Scotland:
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z819>Z29064
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z819>BY190067
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z819>BY69738
    P312>DF19>DF88>L1199/L1200 Seven terminal subclade SNPs; all in Scotland except for 2 in England (none on continent)
    P312>DF19>DF88>Z29041 Seventeen terminal subclade SNPs; all in Scotland (includes Clan Grant) except for 1 in N. Ireland and one in Italy
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281 S4281*?
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S22352
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>S8137/464QuadC At least 3 terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644 At least 4 terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> L719
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z29047
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z17123>Z29034 Closer Y match to VK333
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z21280>Z21279>Z40708
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-09-2021 at 09:48 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Guernsey:
    P312>DF19>Z302>BY56094

    England:
    P312>DF19>Z39380 All one family surname (11 entries) TMRCA 125 years ago so true origin a mystery
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193 6 entries, all English Z302 are Z8193+
    P312>DF19>DF88>L1199/L1200 two terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 four terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S22352 two terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075 One family; Closest Y match to 6DT23
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644 Seventeen entries, mostly different SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> L719 four terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> Z41639 three terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z29047
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z29047>Z30487 Also in Sweden, Netherlands
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257> Z39228 Also in Belgium
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z39816
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z17123>Z29034 Closest Y match to VK333; also in Scotland, Norway and Germany (where surname is "Frese" - Frisian?)
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    aDNA Match (1st)
    Levant_LBN_MA_o4:SI-53 (Sidon Crusader's Pit-mixed)
    aDNA Match (2nd)
    [Mom] Levant_Beirut_ERoman:SFI-33
    aDNA Match (3rd)
    [Dad] VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA:VK363
    Y-DNA (P)
    P312>DF19>DF88
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    J2a1a1e
    Y-DNA (M)
    J2a1 Z6065>Y7708>M47
    mtDNA (P)
    H1j

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    Germany:
    P312>DF19>Z302 six SNPs
    P312>DF19>Z302>Z8193 four+ SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281 S4281*?
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S22352 four SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268 two SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075> L644 five SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> S1393>S1388 four SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380> Z41639
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z39816
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z21280>Z21279
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z17123>Z29034 Same block as VK333 but not closest match
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z17123>Z17126>Z17318>Z17317 there are 30-40 of these (surname project) with varying terminal SNPs
    P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243 >Z43162 five terminal SNP blocks (including mine) no matching surnames; TMRCA 1500+ ybp
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 08-09-2021 at 10:09 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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