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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Thank you. Would you mind posting World9 Oracle. Not the Oracle-4?
    I've got the World 9 Oracles (2-pop and 4-pop) in that last post... or did you mean a different calculator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    I've got the World 9 Oracles (2-pop and 4-pop) in that last post... or did you mean a different calculator?
    Sorry did just check fast. You really got high South European. Exactly how much Romani are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Sorry did just check fast. You really got high South European. Exactly how much Romani are you?
    yeah I saw that too. id say hes got enough southern European that his results look similar to mine. more middle eastern and less south Asia.

    JosephK, what does you Jtest oracle show 1-20?
    Last edited by JerryS.; 09-13-2018 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    yeah I saw that too. id say hes got enough southern European that his results look similar to mine. more middle eastern and less south Asia.

    JosephK, what does you Jtest oracle show 1-20?
    I'm guessing my JTest also looks similar to yours... My wife and I look really similar in everything, with her being 1/2 Slavic and 1/4 Southern Italian.
    It seems like I picked up more North African and less South Asian from the Romany Side, which seems to make calculators unreliable...

    Using 4 populations approximation:
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    1 Druze + EE + LIT + Scottish @ 7.278125
    2 Druze + EE + EE + Scottish @ 7.344797
    3 Druze + EE + EE + Orcadian @ 7.682416
    4 Druze + LIT + LIT + Scottish @ 7.688012
    5 Druze + EE + LIT + Orcadian @ 7.694670
    6 Cornish + Druze + EE + EE @ 7.750928
    7 Cornish + Druze + EE + LIT @ 7.781669
    8 Druze + LIT + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 7.783898
    9 Druze + EE + IE + LIT @ 7.839608
    10 Druze + EE + Northwest_Russian + Scottish @ 7.882059
    11 Druze + EE + EE + IE @ 7.891013
    12 DK + Druze + EE + EE @ 7.957469
    13 Belorussian + Druze + EE + Scottish @ 7.966549
    14 Druze + EE + EE + English @ 7.992622
    15 DK + Druze + EE + LIT @ 8.009912
    16 Druze + EE + English + LIT @ 8.017323
    17 EE + EE + Samaritan + Scottish @ 8.034405
    18 Druze + EE + EE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 8.046175
    19 Druze + EE + EE + NO @ 8.060645
    20 EE + LIT + Samaritan + Scottish @ 8.079000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Sorry did just check fast. You really got high South European. Exactly how much Romani are you?
    It's hard to say "exactly"; my grandmother was "Gypsy" but her parents were from Hungary, and it seems they may have been mixed more with Hungarian than, say, a "full-blooded" Balkan Romany, at least in terms of South Asian; but that seems to have been the case with the Hungarian-Slovak Gypsy community they were part of. Unfortunately, since my father was taken away by the state and raised in an orphanage, I never got to know her very well and don't have more detailed info other than tidbits from other family...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    I'm guessing my JTest also looks similar to yours... My wife and I look really similar in everything, with her being 1/2 Slavic and 1/4 Southern Italian.
    It seems like I picked up more North African and less South Asian from the Romany Side, which seems to make calculators unreliable...

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Druze + EE + LIT + Scottish @ 7.278125
    2 Druze + EE + EE + Scottish @ 7.344797
    3 Druze + EE + EE + Orcadian @ 7.682416
    4 Druze + LIT + LIT + Scottish @ 7.688012
    5 Druze + EE + LIT + Orcadian @ 7.694670
    6 Cornish + Druze + EE + EE @ 7.750928
    7 Cornish + Druze + EE + LIT @ 7.781669
    8 Druze + LIT + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 7.783898
    9 Druze + EE + IE + LIT @ 7.839608
    10 Druze + EE + Northwest_Russian + Scottish @ 7.882059
    11 Druze + EE + EE + IE @ 7.891013
    12 DK + Druze + EE + EE @ 7.957469
    13 Belorussian + Druze + EE + Scottish @ 7.966549
    14 Druze + EE + EE + English @ 7.992622
    15 DK + Druze + EE + LIT @ 8.009912
    16 Druze + EE + English + LIT @ 8.017323
    17 EE + EE + Samaritan + Scottish @ 8.034405
    18 Druze + EE + EE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 8.046175
    19 Druze + EE + EE + NO @ 8.060645
    20 EE + LIT + Samaritan + Scottish @ 8.079000
    what does the regular oracle show with the Jtest?

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    Here's the regular JTest--!

    # Population Percent
    1 SOUTH_BALTIC 22.7
    2 ATLANTIC 19.48
    3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.57
    4 EAST_EURO 13.63
    5 EAST_MED 11.91
    6 ASHKENAZI 4.68
    7 WEST_MED 4.01
    8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.57
    9 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.05

    1 AT @ 11.098427
    2 HU @ 11.196002
    3 Serbian @ 13.607108
    4 PL @ 14.977449
    5 UA @ 16.461407
    6 RO @ 16.609343
    7 West_&_Central_German @ 16.823982
    8 West_Russian @ 18.043774
    9 Ukrainian-Russian @ 18.385784
    10 South_Finnish @ 18.406603
    11 North_Swedish @ 18.459585
    12 NL @ 18.579590
    13 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 18.807232
    14 Belorussian @ 19.008530
    15 EE @ 19.753153
    16 NO @ 19.825268
    17 DK @ 20.015921
    18 English @ 20.829914
    19 Cornish @ 20.881264
    20 Orcadian @ 21.204689

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 62.40% EE + 37.60% Tuscan @ 7.67
    2 66.50% EE + 33.50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 7.75
    3 67.30% EE + 32.70% GR @ 8.25
    4 77.20% AT + 22.80% LIT @ 8.27
    5 58.60% EE + 41.40% North_Italian @ 8.28
    6 73.10% AT + 26.90% EE @ 8.3
    7 72.20% AT + 27.80% Belorussian @ 8.3
    8 76.20% AT + 23.80% Northwest_Russian @ 8.4
    9 63% Serbian + 37% EE @ 8.4
    10 64.90% AT + 35.10% PL @ 8.41
    11 69.90% AT + 30.10% UA @ 8.66
    12 76.50% EE + 23.50% Druze @ 8.68
    13 72.20% PL + 27.80% Tuscan @ 8.68
    14 73.80% AT + 26.20% Ukrainian-Russian @ 8.76
    15 73.20% AT + 26.80% West_Russian @ 8.77
    16 64.10% Belorussian + 35.90% Tuscan @ 8.83
    17 83.50% PL + 16.50% Druze @ 8.87
    18 57.50% LIT + 42.50% Tuscan @ 8.88
    19 76.10% PL + 23.90% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.91
    20 53.40% Serbian + 46.60% PL @ 8.93

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    Here's the regular JTest--!

    # Population Percent
    1 SOUTH_BALTIC 22.7
    2 ATLANTIC 19.48
    3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.57
    4 EAST_EURO 13.63
    5 EAST_MED 11.91
    6 ASHKENAZI 4.68
    7 WEST_MED 4.01
    8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.57
    9 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.05

    1 AT @ 11.098427
    2 HU @ 11.196002
    3 Serbian @ 13.607108
    4 PL @ 14.977449
    5 UA @ 16.461407
    6 RO @ 16.609343
    7 West_&_Central_German @ 16.823982
    8 West_Russian @ 18.043774
    9 Ukrainian-Russian @ 18.385784
    10 South_Finnish @ 18.406603
    11 North_Swedish @ 18.459585
    12 NL @ 18.579590
    13 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 18.807232
    14 Belorussian @ 19.008530
    15 EE @ 19.753153
    16 NO @ 19.825268
    17 DK @ 20.015921
    18 English @ 20.829914
    19 Cornish @ 20.881264
    20 Orcadian @ 21.204689

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 62.40% EE + 37.60% Tuscan @ 7.67
    2 66.50% EE + 33.50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 7.75
    3 67.30% EE + 32.70% GR @ 8.25
    4 77.20% AT + 22.80% LIT @ 8.27
    5 58.60% EE + 41.40% North_Italian @ 8.28
    6 73.10% AT + 26.90% EE @ 8.3
    7 72.20% AT + 27.80% Belorussian @ 8.3
    8 76.20% AT + 23.80% Northwest_Russian @ 8.4
    9 63% Serbian + 37% EE @ 8.4
    10 64.90% AT + 35.10% PL @ 8.41
    11 69.90% AT + 30.10% UA @ 8.66
    12 76.50% EE + 23.50% Druze @ 8.68
    13 72.20% PL + 27.80% Tuscan @ 8.68
    14 73.80% AT + 26.20% Ukrainian-Russian @ 8.76
    15 73.20% AT + 26.80% West_Russian @ 8.77
    16 64.10% Belorussian + 35.90% Tuscan @ 8.83
    17 83.50% PL + 16.50% Druze @ 8.87
    18 57.50% LIT + 42.50% Tuscan @ 8.88
    19 76.10% PL + 23.90% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.91
    20 53.40% Serbian + 46.60% PL @ 8.93
    im no expert, not by far, but it looks to me like you should reconsider your romany ancestry and look to something else which explains such readings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    im no expert, not by far, but it looks to me like you should reconsider your romany ancestry and look to something else which explains such readings.
    Agree. Maybe jewish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Agree. Maybe jewish.
    Yeah I have to admit my DNA results were a little confusing, and that's why I ended up on these boards... Although my dad was raised in an orphanage, his mother and family is no 'mystery' to me, we are well aware of the family, there are no real 'gaps' in my family history or knowledge. I started digging into possible Jewish ancestry, and no, it doesn't pan out, at least in a recent enough generation to have affected my DNA so much. (Nor could I imagine someone lying about being a Gypsy to hide being Jewish!). I suppose that's why I started hanging out on the board and trying to help people who were similarly confused.

    Other members of my family the Romany is much more noticeable genetically, but for some reason I got stuck with this North African that usually shows up around 3% in most GEDMatch calculators, that really throws things off (or, due to the nature of these tests, it's mistakenly read as North African). It does make me curious about where it may have come from, perhaps it's something I don't know about another grandparent.

    But if I've learned anything from these calculators, it's not to put much faith into them. The fact that almost no calculator (without phasing) can recognize the Italian in my wife is a good indicator...believe me, she's a quarter Italian...

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