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    Seems the only thing I don't get in World9 is Australasian.

    Atlantic_Baltic 65.00%
    Southern 16.11%
    Caucasus_Gedrosia 14.71%
    Amerindian 2.59%
    Siberian 0.76%
    East_Asian 0.39%
    South_Asian 0.36%
    African 0.09%
    Australasian -

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungarians @ 4.631112
    2 French @ 6.825901
    3 French @ 8.061115
    4 Mixed_Germanic @ 9.993916
    5 Dutch @ 10.857161
    6 German @ 11.416921
    7 CEU30 @ 12.095622
    8 Cataluna @ 12.106492
    9 Ukranians @ 12.447129
    10 Cornwall @ 12.451158
    11 Kent @ 12.587245
    12 British @ 12.772575
    13 Spaniards @ 13.623009
    14 Valencia @ 13.714602
    15 British_Isles @ 13.831572
    16 N_Italian @ 13.890854
    17 Spanish @ 14.072803
    18 Baleares @ 14.096170
    19 Argyll @ 14.184237
    20 Bulgarians @ 14.220435

    Oracle-4

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +50% Orcadian @ 2.580411

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Russian_B +25% Sephardic_Jews @ 2.193259


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Bulgarian + Brazilian + Argyll + Ukranians @ 1.846041
    2 Greek + Brazilian + Belorussian + Lithuanians @ 1.867492
    3 Irish + Bulgarian + Brazilian + Ukranians @ 1.892255
    4 Greek + Brazilian + Lithuanian + Belorussian @ 1.901239
    5 Brazilian + Argyll + Bulgarians + Ukranians @ 1.925954
    6 Polish + Bulgarian + Brazilian + Ukranians @ 1.966817
    7 Bulgarian + Brazilian + Orcadian + Ukranians @ 1.971197
    8 Polish + Greek + Brazilian + Lithuanians @ 1.981836
    9 Polish + Greek + Brazilian + Lithuanian @ 1.994841
    10 Brazilian + S_Italian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 2.001447
    11 Greek + Swedish + Brazilian + Lithuanians @ 2.004811
    12 Bulgarian + Brazilian + Hungarians + Lithuanians @ 2.011123
    13 S_Italian_Sicilian + Brazilian + Lithuanians + Lithuanians @ 2.025416
    14 Irish + Brazilian + Bulgarians + Ukranians @ 2.027389
    15 Brazilian + S_Italian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 2.034088
    16 Bulgarian + Brazilian + Lithuanian + Hungarians @ 2.034647
    17 Greek + Swedish + Brazilian + Lithuanian @ 2.051590
    18 German + Brazilian + Bulgarians + Ukranians @ 2.052996
    19 S_Italian_Sicilian + Brazilian + Lithuanian + Lithuanians @ 2.060970
    20 Bulgarian + Brazilian + Orkney + Ukranians @ 2.062836

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    Known ancestry is (approximately) half German, a quarter British, an eighth Menorcan Spanish. The remaining eighth is difficult to precisely quantify, but it includes French, Irish, Dutch, Belgian, Swiss, and Native American (possibly Choctaw, but the only documented reference I'm aware of is to "une indienne").
    Besides British-German-Catalan, ancestry includes smaller amounts of French, Irish, Swiss, Choctaw & another NA tribe, possibly Catawba. Avatar picture is: my father, his father, & his father's father; baby is my eldest brother.

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    Apparently I've never posted my World9 results. These are Oracle4 run's (sorted by fit) for me and my closest relatives. Each kit has its own color to distinguish it from the others, and was used throughout the runs. The runs are for the Gaussian method, using defaults, and were generated by Admix4. [That Big Red 4 lies like a tantalizing cartouche begging to be read on my toolbar (thanks to khanabadoshi for renewing my interest into such utils)]
    World9_Gaussian_1Ancestor.pngWorld9_Gaussian_2Ancestor.pngWorld9_Gaussian_3Ancestor.pngWorld9_Gaussian_4Ancestor.png
    The Oracle runs seems to be a bit more realistic, or closer to my preconceived countries of origin, than the run on GEDmatch. I attribute this to the difference in thresholds.
    dp :-)
    PS: I was surprised at the relative clustering of results by kit when sorted by fit. The kits were from Ancestry, FamilyTreeDNA and 23andme. I do not notice any particular closeness by company to fit.
    PPS: check out: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...ll=1#post95003
    To compare with my Eurogenes K13 Oracles (generated as above) click here
    Last edited by dp; 08-31-2015 at 08:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Eh..

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 71.29
    2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 13.67
    3 Southern 12.49
    4 South_Asian 1.21


     
    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic @ 3.160672
    2 Dutch @ 3.524199
    3 Hungarians @ 3.989113
    4 German @ 4.192891
    5 CEU30 @ 4.890331
    6 Cornwall @ 5.542659
    7 Kent @ 5.635502
    8 British @ 5.684919
    9 Ukranians @ 6.382546
    10 British_Isles @ 6.791645
    11 Argyll @ 6.798609
    12 French @ 6.990695
    13 Irish @ 7.299996
    14 Orcadian @ 7.576499
    15 Orkney @ 8.103077
    16 French @ 8.331759
    17 Polish @ 8.519629
    18 Belorussian @ 10.401358
    19 Russian_B @ 11.291695
    20 Russian @ 11.705537

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch +50% Hungarians @ 1.362182


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Romanians +25% Orkney @ 0.957231


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 0.950413
    2 Irish + Irish + Romanians + Orkney @ 0.957231
    3 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Romanians @ 0.966993
    4 Romanians + Orkney + Orkney + Argyll @ 0.967199
    5 Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.002574
    6 Irish + Romanians + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.009770
    7 Irish + Irish + Irish + Romanians @ 1.009895
    8 Irish + Romanians + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.009929
    9 Irish + Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.010584
    10 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.011258
    11 Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.045244
    12 Irish + Orcadian + Romanians + Argyll @ 1.053937
    13 Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians + Argyll @ 1.060515
    14 Irish + Irish + Romanians + Argyll @ 1.070612
    15 Lithuanian + O_Italian + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.074461
    16 Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.096208
    17 Lithuanian + O_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.101063
    18 Lithuanian + O_Italian + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.101361
    19 Romanians + Orkney + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.110757
    20 Norwegian + Dutch + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.117835
    Again, with 23&me data..

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 71.87
    2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 13.32
    3 Southern 12.36
    4 South_Asian 1.41
    5 Australasian 0.61
    6 African 0.33
    7 Amerindian 0.09

    Oracle 4:

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic @ 2.557186
    2 Dutch @ 2.865338
    3 German @ 3.568160
    4 CEU30 @ 4.229627
    5 Hungarians @ 4.621575
    6 Cornwall @ 4.875033
    7 Kent @ 4.981346
    8 British @ 5.002409
    9 British_Isles @ 6.111881
    10 Argyll @ 6.178481
    11 Ukranians @ 6.226492
    12 Irish @ 6.650373
    13 Orcadian @ 6.911880
    14 French @ 7.155480
    15 Orkney @ 7.429033
    16 Polish @ 8.003447
    17 French @ 8.425679
    18 Belorussian @ 9.928993
    19 Russian_B @ 10.978725
    20 Norwegian @ 11.325512

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU30 +50% Hungarians @ 1.286792


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Romanians +25% Orkney @ 1.113048


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Romanians + Orkney + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.036004
    2 Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.051313
    3 Irish + Romanians + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.074053
    4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.113048
    5 Romanians + Orkney + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.131426
    6 Irish + Norwegian + British_Isles + Romanians @ 1.147835
    7 Irish + Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.148555
    8 British + Irish + Norwegian + Romanians @ 1.150843
    9 Irish + Norwegian + Romanians + Cornwall @ 1.167241
    10 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.170448
    11 Irish + Irish + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.173715
    12 Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians + Kent @ 1.174191
    13 Norwegian + British_Isles + Romanians + Argyll @ 1.174407
    14 Norwegian + Romanians + Orkney + Kent @ 1.175041
    15 Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians + Cornwall @ 1.176032
    16 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Romanians @ 1.178648
    17 Norwegian + British_Isles + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.180028
    18 British + Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.181905
    19 Lithuanian + Romanians + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.182225
    20 Irish + Norwegian + Romanians + Kent @ 1.183660
     
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    EEF 49.22068981
    WHG 35.89409732
    ANE 14.88521287


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    ENF 19.35%
    ANE 15.21%


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Again, with 23&me data..

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 71.87
    2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 13.32
    3 Southern 12.36
    4 South_Asian 1.41
    5 Australasian 0.61
    6 African 0.33
    7 Amerindian 0.09

    Oracle 4:

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic @ 2.557186
    2 Dutch @ 2.865338
    3 German @ 3.568160
    4 CEU30 @ 4.229627
    5 Hungarians @ 4.621575
    6 Cornwall @ 4.875033
    7 Kent @ 4.981346
    8 British @ 5.002409
    9 British_Isles @ 6.111881
    10 Argyll @ 6.178481
    11 Ukranians @ 6.226492
    12 Irish @ 6.650373
    13 Orcadian @ 6.911880
    14 French @ 7.155480
    15 Orkney @ 7.429033
    16 Polish @ 8.003447
    17 French @ 8.425679
    18 Belorussian @ 9.928993
    19 Russian_B @ 10.978725
    20 Norwegian @ 11.325512

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU30 +50% Hungarians @ 1.286792


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Romanians +25% Orkney @ 1.113048


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Romanians + Orkney + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.036004
    2 Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.051313
    3 Irish + Romanians + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.074053
    4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.113048
    5 Romanians + Orkney + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.131426
    6 Irish + Norwegian + British_Isles + Romanians @ 1.147835
    7 Irish + Orcadian + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.148555
    8 British + Irish + Norwegian + Romanians @ 1.150843
    9 Irish + Norwegian + Romanians + Cornwall @ 1.167241
    10 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.170448
    11 Irish + Irish + Romanians + Orkney @ 1.173715
    12 Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians + Kent @ 1.174191
    13 Norwegian + British_Isles + Romanians + Argyll @ 1.174407
    14 Norwegian + Romanians + Orkney + Kent @ 1.175041
    15 Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians + Cornwall @ 1.176032
    16 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Romanians @ 1.178648
    17 Norwegian + British_Isles + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.180028
    18 British + Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.181905
    19 Lithuanian + Romanians + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.182225
    20 Irish + Norwegian + Romanians + Kent @ 1.183660
    It's neat to compare companies. I haven't tested the same person with different companies. Thought about maybe trying Ancestry around Christmas, but am working on finding out Y-DNA results of my collateral family.
    You have something pulling your results eastwards of mine. My dad's side picks up some Lithuanian. I think MDLP pulls my results to look similar to your World9's. I'll run some Eurogenes K13 Oracle's tonight and post them on the appropriate thread. (Got to get component breakdown for my crew before I can run K15 Oracle's)
    French seemed to be a halfway point between North Italian and Spanish in my (World9) Oracles (with maybe French Basque as an intermediary). France seems to be more admixed than I thought. Any studies done on it specifically for autosomal DNA?
    dp

    Edit: In addition to the Eurogenes K13 run linked in my World9 post I have added a Eurogenes EUtest (V2) K15 run
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Powell View Post
    It's neat to compare companies. I haven't tested the same person with different companies. Thought about maybe trying Ancestry around Christmas, but am working on finding out Y-DNA results of my collateral family.
    You have something pulling your results eastwards of mine. My dad's side picks up some Lithuanian. I think MDLP pulls my results to look similar to your World9's. I'll run some Eurogenes K13 Oracle's tonight and post them on the appropriate thread. (Got to get component breakdown for my crew before I can run K15 Oracle's)
    French seemed to be a halfway point between North Italian and Spanish in my (World9) Oracles (with maybe French Basque as an intermediary). France seems to be more admixed than I thought. Any studies done on it specifically for autosomal DNA?
    dp
    Autosomal is out of my realm of familiarity! I'm not sure what Ancestry's test would cost, but 23&me is around $99. Which isn't bad considering what you get.
     
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    WHG 35.89409732
    ANE 14.88521287


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    ENF 19.35%
    ANE 15.21%


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    my maternal grandfather's dodecad results
    mix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 36.92
    2 Amerindian 25.41
    3 Southern 21.69
    4 Caucasus_Gedrosia 10.15
    5 African 2.81
    6 Siberian 1.53
    7 East_Asian 1.31


    Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
    9 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 CLM30 @ 8.818590
    2 Colombian @ 13.767543
    3 PUR30 @ 18.767370
    4 AthabaskHD4 @ 21.460558
    5 MEX30 @ 21.709045
    6 Puerto_Rican @ 22.618067
    7 Brazilian @ 27.343479
    8 O_Italian @ 30.687140
    9 Tuscan @ 31.062521
    10 C_Italian @ 31.191273
    11 TSI30 @ 31.298344
    12 Romanians @ 31.480215
    13 Ecuadorian @ 31.528811
    14 Bulgarian @ 32.206577
    15 Greek @ 32.530315
    16 Bulgarians @ 32.721649
    17 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 32.796242
    18 Sicilian @ 33.217941
    19 N_Italian @ 33.355206
    20 North_Italian @ 33.396896

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% TSI30 +50% Ecuadorian @ 1.819690


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% TSI30 +25% Ecuadorian +25% Ecuadorian @ 1.819690


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 MEX30 + Morocco_Jews + AthabaskHD4 + CLM30 @ 1.474386
    2 MEX30 + Sephardic_Jews + AthabaskHD4 + CLM30 @ 1.483988
    3 Finnish + Bedouin + Karitiana + Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.542032
    4 Finnish + Bedouin + Surui + Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.542032
    5 Bedouin + Karitiana + FIN30 + Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.550431
    6 Bedouin + Surui + FIN30 + Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.550431
    7 Finnish + Bedouin + Karitiana + Spaniards @ 1.561427
    8 Finnish + Bedouin + Surui + Spaniards @ 1.561427
    9 Finnish + Portuguese + Bedouin + Karitiana @ 1.564928
    10 Finnish + Portuguese + Bedouin + Surui @ 1.564928
    11 Finnish + Bedouin + Karitiana + Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.571181
    12 Finnish + Bedouin + Surui + Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.571181
    13 Spanish + Bedouin + Karitiana + FIN30 @ 1.574522
    14 Spanish + Bedouin + Surui + FIN30 @ 1.574522
    15 Bedouin + Karitiana + FIN30 + Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.580616
    16 Bedouin + Surui + FIN30 + Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.580616
    17 Greek + Ecuadorian + Ecuadorian + Baleares @ 1.582749
    18 Bedouin + Karitiana + Spaniards + FIN30 @ 1.586876
    19 Bedouin + Surui + Spaniards + FIN30 @ 1.586876
    20 Finnish + Bedouin + Karitiana + Galicia @ 1.588328

    Done.

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    Here's mine and I'm Irish but get German and the Germanics get Irish from looking at some previous results. Irish down at No 10.

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 74.81
    2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 12.2
    3 Southern 11.16
    4 Amerindian 1.17
    5 South_Asian 0.45
    6 Siberian 0.21

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 German (Dodecad) 0.87
    2 Dutch (Dodecad) 1.34
    3 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 1.52
    4 Kent (1000 Genomes) 1.98
    5 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 2.12
    6 British (Dodecad) 2.14
    7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.37
    8 British_Isles (Dodecad) 2.74
    9 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 2.75
    10 Irish (Dodecad) 2.97
    11 Orcadian (HGDP) 3.22
    12 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 3.72
    13 Polish (Dodecad) 5.05
    14 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.41
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 6.97
    16 Belorussian (Behar) 7.01
    17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 7.36
    18 Swedish (Dodecad) 7.69
    19 French (HGDP) 8.66
    20 Russian_B (Behar) 8.82

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Karitiana @ 0.6
    2 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Surui @ 0.6
    3 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Colombians @ 0.6
    4 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Pima @ 0.61
    5 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Maya @ 0.61
    6 99.4% German (Dodecad) + 0.6% PEL30 @ 0.63
    7 99.2% German (Dodecad) + 0.8% Ecuadorian @ 0.68
    8 96.1% Irish (Dodecad) + 3.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.69
    9 95.8% Orcadian (HGDP) + 4.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.69
    10 95.5% Irish (Dodecad) + 4.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.69
    11 99.4% German (Dodecad) + 0.6% Athabask @ 0.7
    12 99.2% German (Dodecad) + 0.8% MEX30 @ 0.7
    13 89.2% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.7
    14 96.5% Irish (Dodecad) + 3.5% Samaritians (Behar) @ 0.71
    15 96.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 3.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.71
    16 93.3% Irish (Dodecad) + 6.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 0.72
    17 95.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 4.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.72
    18 96% Irish (Dodecad) + 4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.72
    19 96.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 3.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.73
    20 88.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.73

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German +50% German @ 0.737632


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% German +25% German +25% German @ 0.737632


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 0.675051
    2 Irish + German + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 0.720972
    3 German + German + German + German @ 0.737632
    4 Orcadian + Hungarians + Kent + Argyll @ 0.742685
    5 Irish + Irish + Hungarians + Cornwall @ 0.752953
    6 German + Orcadian + Hungarians + Orkney @ 0.755176
    7 Orcadian + Hungarians + Cornwall + Argyll @ 0.762616
    8 Irish + Hungarians + Cornwall + Argyll @ 0.764567
    9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians + Cornwall @ 0.773423
    10 Irish + Irish + Hungarians + Kent @ 0.776573
    11 Irish + Orcadian + Hungarians + Kent @ 0.781464
    12 Irish + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 0.781622
    13 Irish + Orcadian + Hungarians + Cornwall @ 0.782011
    14 Irish + Hungarians + Kent + Argyll @ 0.789422
    15 German + German + Mixed_Germanic + Argyll @ 0.791309
    16 Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians + Kent @ 0.796848
    17 Irish + German + Hungarians + Orkney @ 0.802747
    18 British_Isles + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 0.804505
    19 Irish + Irish + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 0.816631
    20 Irish + Irish + German + Hungarians @ 0.817185

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    Here's mine and I'm Irish but get German and the Germanics get Irish from looking at some previous results. Irish down at No 10.

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 74.81
    2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 12.2
    3 Southern 11.16
    4 Amerindian 1.17
    5 South_Asian 0.45
    6 Siberian 0.21

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 German (Dodecad) 0.87
    2 Dutch (Dodecad) 1.34
    3 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 1.52
    4 Kent (1000 Genomes) 1.98
    5 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 2.12
    6 British (Dodecad) 2.14
    7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.37
    8 British_Isles (Dodecad) 2.74
    9 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 2.75
    10 Irish (Dodecad) 2.97
    11 Orcadian (HGDP) 3.22
    12 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 3.72
    13 Polish (Dodecad) 5.05
    14 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.41
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 6.97
    16 Belorussian (Behar) 7.01
    17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 7.36
    18 Swedish (Dodecad) 7.69
    19 French (HGDP) 8.66
    20 Russian_B (Behar) 8.82

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Karitiana @ 0.6
    2 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Surui @ 0.6
    3 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Colombians @ 0.6
    4 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Pima @ 0.61
    5 99.5% German (Dodecad) + 0.5% Maya @ 0.61
    6 99.4% German (Dodecad) + 0.6% PEL30 @ 0.63
    7 99.2% German (Dodecad) + 0.8% Ecuadorian @ 0.68
    8 96.1% Irish (Dodecad) + 3.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.69
    9 95.8% Orcadian (HGDP) + 4.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.69
    10 95.5% Irish (Dodecad) + 4.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.69
    11 99.4% German (Dodecad) + 0.6% Athabask @ 0.7
    12 99.2% German (Dodecad) + 0.8% MEX30 @ 0.7
    13 89.2% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.7
    14 96.5% Irish (Dodecad) + 3.5% Samaritians (Behar) @ 0.71
    15 96.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 3.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.71
    16 93.3% Irish (Dodecad) + 6.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 0.72
    17 95.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 4.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.72
    18 96% Irish (Dodecad) + 4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.72
    19 96.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 3.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.73
    20 88.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.73

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German +50% German @ 0.737632


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% German +25% German +25% German @ 0.737632


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 0.675051
    2 Irish + German + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 0.720972
    3 German + German + German + German @ 0.737632
    4 Orcadian + Hungarians + Kent + Argyll @ 0.742685
    5 Irish + Irish + Hungarians + Cornwall @ 0.752953
    6 German + Orcadian + Hungarians + Orkney @ 0.755176
    7 Orcadian + Hungarians + Cornwall + Argyll @ 0.762616
    8 Irish + Hungarians + Cornwall + Argyll @ 0.764567
    9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians + Cornwall @ 0.773423
    10 Irish + Irish + Hungarians + Kent @ 0.776573
    11 Irish + Orcadian + Hungarians + Kent @ 0.781464
    12 Irish + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 0.781622
    13 Irish + Orcadian + Hungarians + Cornwall @ 0.782011
    14 Irish + Hungarians + Kent + Argyll @ 0.789422
    15 German + German + Mixed_Germanic + Argyll @ 0.791309
    16 Orcadian + Orcadian + Hungarians + Kent @ 0.796848
    17 Irish + German + Hungarians + Orkney @ 0.802747
    18 British_Isles + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 0.804505
    19 Irish + Irish + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 0.816631
    20 Irish + Irish + German + Hungarians @ 0.817185
    I don't really understand how these calculators work but why is your Irish for single population sharing down at number 10? One of these days I will splash the cash on some DNA testing for myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by avalon View Post
    I don't really understand how these calculators work but why is your Irish for single population sharing down at number 10? One of these days I will splash the cash on some DNA testing for myself!
    If you notice CelticGermanic who is German has the opposite. He has Irish at no 1 and German at No 10. Something odd there. Here is my mother's and she gets Irish at No 10 as well. I find Dodecad not very accurate for me but the Dodecad V3 has Orcadian as No 1 for me so a bit better. Can anyone explain the odd results?

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 73.5
    2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 12.54
    3 Southern 11.39
    4 Amerindian 1.31
    5 South_Asian 1.26

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Dutch (Dodecad) 1.57
    2 German (Dodecad) 1.78
    3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.19
    4 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 2.32
    5 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 2.99
    6 Kent (1000 Genomes) 3.03
    7 British (Dodecad) 3.11
    8 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 3.82
    9 British_Isles (Dodecad) 3.86
    10 Irish (Dodecad) 4.17
    11 Orcadian (HGDP) 4.4
    12 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 4.91
    13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.39
    14 Polish (Dodecad) 5.9
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 5.95
    16 Belorussian (Behar) 7.79
    17 French (HGDP) 7.99
    18 Norwegian (Dodecad) 8.55
    19 Swedish (Dodecad) 8.79
    20 French (Dodecad) 8.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 98.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.1% Karitiana @ 0.63
    2 98.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.1% Surui @ 0.63
    3 98.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.2% Colombians @ 0.63
    4 98.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.2% Pima @ 0.64
    5 98.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.2% Maya @ 0.64
    6 98.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.4% PEL30 @ 0.66
    7 98.1% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.9% Ecuadorian @ 0.75
    8 97.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.2% MEX30 @ 0.78
    9 98.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.5% Athabask @ 0.81
    10 94.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.8% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.88
    11 94.7% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.89
    12 94.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.6% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.9
    13 84.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 15.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.9
    14 94.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
    15 97.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.4% Colombian @ 0.92
    16 94.3% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.92
    17 94.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.92
    18 85.1% Irish (Dodecad) + 14.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.96
    19 94.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.97
    20 92.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 7.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.97

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% Hungarians @ 1.479715


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU30 +25% Hungarians +25% Argyll @ 1.248026


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Dutch + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.205421
    2 Lithuanian + N_Italian + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.209829
    3 CEU30 + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.248026
    4 German + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.249890
    5 Dutch + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.252796
    6 Lithuanian + N_Italian + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.269905
    7 German + German + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.284085
    8 Dutch + Dutch + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.287781
    9 Mixed_Germanic + Hungarians + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.291163
    10 Irish + Dutch + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.294770
    11 German + Dutch + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.294773
    12 Mixed_Germanic + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.303576
    13 Irish + German + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.305232
    14 German + German + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.306141
    15 German + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.306640
    16 German + Dutch + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.309793
    17 Irish + Lithuanian + N_Italian + Argyll @ 1.310758
    18 Dutch + Hungarians + Cornwall + Argyll @ 1.312385
    19 Mixed_Germanic + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.323994
    20 Lithuanian + North_Italian + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.329566

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    If you notice CelticGermanic who is German has the opposite. He has Irish at no 1 and German at No 10. Something odd there. Here is my mother's and she gets Irish at No 10 as well. I find Dodecad not very accurate for me but the Dodecad V3 has Orcadian as No 1 for me so a bit better. Can anyone explain the odd results?

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 73.5
    2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 12.54
    3 Southern 11.39
    4 Amerindian 1.31
    5 South_Asian 1.26

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Dutch (Dodecad) 1.57
    2 German (Dodecad) 1.78
    3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.19
    4 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 2.32
    5 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 2.99
    6 Kent (1000 Genomes) 3.03
    7 British (Dodecad) 3.11
    8 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 3.82
    9 British_Isles (Dodecad) 3.86
    10 Irish (Dodecad) 4.17
    11 Orcadian (HGDP) 4.4
    12 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 4.91
    13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.39
    14 Polish (Dodecad) 5.9
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 5.95
    16 Belorussian (Behar) 7.79
    17 French (HGDP) 7.99
    18 Norwegian (Dodecad) 8.55
    19 Swedish (Dodecad) 8.79
    20 French (Dodecad) 8.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 98.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.1% Karitiana @ 0.63
    2 98.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.1% Surui @ 0.63
    3 98.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.2% Colombians @ 0.63
    4 98.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.2% Pima @ 0.64
    5 98.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.2% Maya @ 0.64
    6 98.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.4% PEL30 @ 0.66
    7 98.1% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.9% Ecuadorian @ 0.75
    8 97.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.2% MEX30 @ 0.78
    9 98.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.5% Athabask @ 0.81
    10 94.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.8% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.88
    11 94.7% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.89
    12 94.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.6% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.9
    13 84.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 15.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.9
    14 94.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
    15 97.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.4% Colombian @ 0.92
    16 94.3% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.92
    17 94.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.92
    18 85.1% Irish (Dodecad) + 14.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 0.96
    19 94.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 5.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.97
    20 92.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 7.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.97

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% Hungarians @ 1.479715


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU30 +25% Hungarians +25% Argyll @ 1.248026


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Dutch + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.205421
    2 Lithuanian + N_Italian + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.209829
    3 CEU30 + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.248026
    4 German + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.249890
    5 Dutch + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.252796
    6 Lithuanian + N_Italian + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.269905
    7 German + German + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.284085
    8 Dutch + Dutch + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.287781
    9 Mixed_Germanic + Hungarians + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.291163
    10 Irish + Dutch + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.294770
    11 German + Dutch + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.294773
    12 Mixed_Germanic + CEU30 + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.303576
    13 Irish + German + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.305232
    14 German + German + Orcadian + Hungarians @ 1.306141
    15 German + Orcadian + CEU30 + Hungarians @ 1.306640
    16 German + Dutch + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.309793
    17 Irish + Lithuanian + N_Italian + Argyll @ 1.310758
    18 Dutch + Hungarians + Cornwall + Argyll @ 1.312385
    19 Mixed_Germanic + Orcadian + Hungarians + Argyll @ 1.323994
    20 Lithuanian + North_Italian + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.329566
    what is ceu30 and argyll

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