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Thread: Big Y results for N-L1025

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    Z16981 is now available for order from FTDNA.
    Interestingly, Yseq declined to offer a test for this SNP:
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    Z16981: 97.6% similar to ChrY:9049903..9050903
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    Instead, they offer a test for Z16980 (= Y4755), which so far is equivalent to Z16981 (= Y4756).

    Besides Z16981, FTDNA offers a SNP test for CTS8173, which so far is also equivalent to Z16980 and Z16981.
    Last edited by lgmayka; 08-11-2014 at 03:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    Moreover, N6569 and B2967 share these novel variants. Others do not list them.

    7411987 - Z17078
    17299529 - Z17079, requested from FTDNA, should be able to use primers for L1189
    17882269- Z17080
    21312826 - Z17081

    According to a post in another forum, kit 149750 (to which I do not have access) also has these five.
    Yseq already offers a test for Z17079.

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    Kit 305722, who previously tested L1027+ , received his Big Y results recently. He shows one of the SNPs previously shared only by the two N-L591 Big Y customers:

    22689012 A > G

    The implication is that L591 and L1027 are more closely related to each other than to other branches of L1025. I suspected this based on Y-STR haplotypes.

    YFull still has to run its complete professional analysis; but in the meantime, I have named this SNP Z17902. Yseq already offers a test for it. I have asked FTDNA to offer a similar test.

    The purpose of the test is not so much for those who are already L591+ or L1027+ , but rather for any man who has already tested L591- L1027- but whose haplotype is close to those subclades.
    Last edited by lgmayka; 08-26-2014 at 07:32 PM.

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    FTDNA is apparently in the middle of migrating LGM2 to its correct public name, Z16975. Existing test orders and results already have the new name; but we still need the new name added to the Advanced menu for new orders. (At this moment, this SNP test cannot be ordered under either its old or its new name. I have reminded FTDNA to correct this.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    FTDNA is apparently in the middle of migrating LGM2 to its correct public name, Z16975. Existing test orders and results already have the new name; but we still need the new name added to the Advanced menu for new orders.
    Z16975 is now orderable.

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    My L1025 YFULL based tree suggests that the tree divides into two parts immediately below L1025. The larger group is identified by SNP's M2782,M2783,M2784. It includes N6569,175141,N81921,133144,N58382. The remaining kits have Y4706 as their first SNP. It includes:
    Y4706* =174607
    Y4706>Y4702= 149374
    Y4706>Y4702>Y4703= 113355,102351,262236?

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    FTDNA now offers individual SNP tests for the two known branches of N-L1025:

    M2783 - South Baltic
    Y4706 - Fennoscandian

    FTDNA also now offers a test for Z16980, equivalent (so far) to Z16981 and CTS8173.

    Consult YFull's haplotree for N-L1025.

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    I am Y4706+, Y4702-. I have also asked YSEQ to prepare primers for 12 novel variant SNP's below Y4706 and had Arne Larsson f312481, who tested GD=1 from me at 37 STR., also tested positive for 10 of these. They are:
    A703 7411305-
    A704 9420993+
    A705 14640101+
    A706 15979950+
    A707 17705095+
    A708 18073057+
    A709 23767071+
    A710 7354602+
    A711 8464879+
    A916 16349446-
    A917 17570438+
    A918 22091940+

    Others who also test Y4706+, Y4702- or are Y4706* on the Big Y might be interested in testing some of these.
    Last edited by Lamborn; 11-29-2014 at 10:53 PM.

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