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Thread: Those with homogenous heritage, how do you feel about your heritage?

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    Those with homogenous heritage, how do you feel about your heritage?

    As someone from the island of Ireland, I hoped but knew in my heart of hearts that I had very limited diversity in my ancestry. As an individual I am almost entirely composed of Goidelic and Brittonic Celt ethnicity.

    Certainly after ordering the various Dna tests, I have come to the firm realisation that I only have Scottish and Irish ancestors. I have come to accept this as my reality, however, I don’t have much of a desire to embrace this. Infact, I feel disappointed that I do not have ancestry from another country or location that I could research or explore.

    I have always admired those with more diverse ancestry from far flung locations. To me it would be great to have ancestors from different countries.

    In many ways I feel insecure or a tad boring when I see so many people mixed with ancestries from across the globe. Living in England I now feel the odd one or the minority in being purely British Isles heritage. So many around me have a Jamaican grandmother, an Italian great grandfather or an Indian mother (all examples).

    I sit and think about my homeland, and the lives that my ancestors lived. At times I feel a sense of sadness knowing that many lived very poor, mundane and often difficult lives facing persecution and prejudice. To me this is something I feel a sense of sadness, not of pride. Particularly given the troubled history of my region.

    Nothing reinforced this than driving around looking at the stone cottages that some of my ancestors lived in.

    For those of you who are in a similar predicament what are your thoughts regarding your homogenous ancestry and ethnicity?

    *my feelings regarding my heritage do not infer that I believe that all Irish or Scottish individuals are of a boring or mundane disposition. You can feel a sense of pride for your Irish or Scottish heritage, I simply don’t due to the fractured history of my region.
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    It can become an addiction, trust me. Especially if you spend time on genealogy research.
    I have three main ethnicities (they also have some diversity inside of them regarding regions etc. but you've got it) in my ancestry, and honestly in a very short time they're suddenly not enough - and I haven't even finished exploring them yet. I want more
    I used to research my family tree hoping that something different would appear, or at least someone coming from the neighboring region/province. I remember freaking out when I found a distant sicilian ancestor in my calabrese tree. LOL
    When you realize, you're collecting nationalities and ethnicities in your tree as if you're catching pokemons. That's not a healthy approach imo
    Truth is, if we dig deeper enough, outsiders always pop up in our trees. I'm sure that will be your case too but that might take some time. Remember DNA tests don't go beyond 6 generations or so.
    Plus, if it doesn't, Irish & Scottish ancestry by itself is often seen as super cool and rare outside the anglosphere.
    Our ancestries seem boring to us cause we're hella used to them.
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    All my ancestry is from northwestern Europe, but I keep in mind that this is only my recent ancestry. Based on what I’ve learned about the movements of humans over the last 60,000 years and the populations that contributed to modern day northern and Western Europeans, I’m sure that ultimately I have very distant ancestry first from Africa, then Eurasia and the Middle East. So, I’m less curious about the Iron Age and what’s happened since then, and more interested in what proportions of my ancestry are from Western Hunter-Gatherers, Anatolian Farmers, and Steppe peoples.

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    I feel your pain. I, too, am boringly Northern European. The only real surprise I received after DNA testing was some significant Slavic ancestry, probably derived from Sorbians in Eastern Germany. But my boredom was alleviated when I started investigating the roots of my wife, and my children's spouses. My wife's Northern Mexican roots, my African-American son-in-law's roots, and my Native-American daughter-in-law's roots have blown my mind! My grandchildren genetically are a virtual history of the Americas. With all the stories I have dredged up, I could produce a whole season of the PBS show Finding Your Roots on my extended family alone. Move over, Dr. Henry Louis Gates, Jr.!

    With roots in Scotland & Ireland, I would encourage you to keep digging. There is plenty of diversity to be discovered considering past historical events on the Emerald Isle and in Scotland. Someone one like you is a perfect person to tease out some of the finer genetic implications of the long history of clashing cultures that have occurred in those two places.

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    Your origins and roots lived and travelled through many area's and countries before it got to where you are today. You yourself never lived in the earlier times, how do you know that what you read and believe today reflects how it really was. It could not of been all doom and gloom as you portray, as the monty python song goes 'always look on the bright side of life', might cheer you up.

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    Being Northern European comes with 'baggage'. I'd rather not have this 'baggage'.... but I am an Anglo. With a significant French ancestry that is generalized, and until more folks test, I find my story rather mysterious. Maybe its a French mystery, but its one that I would not trade. My rather flat homogenous Northwestern European ancestry was typically on the correct side of history and not always welcomed by the local populations. For this I am grateful, the future is no guarantee, but the future fosters hope for us all. I can only gaze upon the past and build upon the mistakes made to have a stronger foundation. I cannot look towards the past of my ancestry with either nostalgia or reverence but with a healthy dose of pragmatism. While my Father side forbearers were firebrands, mothers side were salt of the Earth types. Neither is "correct" but both are survivors. We are all survivors. Survivors of mass extinctions, massacres, floods, fire, famine and disease. It could be worse, as a species we've been through worse. I am not proud nor nostalgic but a sense of accomplishment that I and my ancestry made it to were we are now. I also am more interested in pre iron age (pre-Roman) populations that I connect to, 47% Western Hunter-Gatherers, 45% Farmers, and 7% Metal-steppe and my fathers Y-line came off the Metal-steppes. Therefore steppe is a small part of my total makeup but is essential because I know that's my y-line originates.... Keep the wonder, look up at the stars, maybe think how it came to be.

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    Here is how the groups break down:
    Scarcely half a million of us are very-diverse.
    1.14 billion of us are not-very-diverse.
    6.42 billion of us are very-not-diverse.
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    The very-diverse are hunter-gatherer populations who live in clusters scattered across Central and Southern Africa, in Namibia, Botswana, the Congo and a dozen other nations.
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    Save for that isolated half-million very-diverse hunter-gatherer minority, all Sub-Saharan Africans constitute the genetically in-between group of 1.14 billion not-very-diverse humans.
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    What about the millions of humans around the world, and especially in the Western Hemisphere who carry both African and non-African ancestry? Well, that’s our fourth, intermediate group. If you are among the 140 or so million humans who are, for example, African-American, Brazilian, Caribbean, etc., look at your Ancestry, 23andMe, FamilyTree etc. results. The proportions in which you are genetically Sub-Saharan African vs. absolutely anything else are your ratio of not-very-diverse to very-not-diverse human ancestry.
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    Many would be happy to change their ancestry with yours.
    There is absolutely no reason to be sad about Goidelic and Celtic ancestors.
    The life did not seem to them (your ancestors) as you are portraying it. They did not live only their poor, mundane and difficult lives, but they were immersed into their picture of the world which was maybe rude for today standards but also had its beauty and magic. The people living in those old times had very rich perception of existence which included complex religion and rituals (especially before Christianity).
    Remember Stonehenge and other Irish and British henges. Everything they did they were doing together as a community and they were mutually connected on a deeper level than we are today.
    Pretty much to explore about your ancestors...
     
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    @Nqp15hhu it is what it is.....the cards were already shaken before you came to the world/Ireland. So no reason to be sad about. Out of reach. And why should you?

    I agree with ph2ter even with "homogenous" roots (always relative) there is still much to wonder about!

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    Irish are not even homogenous at all look at the Y-chromosome they have both R1b and I these lines do not connect for many thousands of years and come from totally different people's. In addition they have many types of N mtdna that cross the entire spectrum of N and small percentages of other Y-chromosomes. I would be very happy to be a homogenous person because that would be very rare.
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