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  1. #31
    Registered Users
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    1,980
    Sex
    Location
    Brittany
    Nationality
    French
    aDNA Match (1st)
    England_MBA:I19857
    aDNA Match (2nd)
    England_MIA_LIA Wiltshire:I21314
    aDNA Match (3rd)
    VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA:VK369
    Y-DNA (P)
    R-U106>DF98>BY650
    mtDNA (M)
    K1a

    France Bretagne Trégor France Bretagne Kroaz Du
    Distance to: Trelvern_scaled

    0.02300166 England_MIA_LIA
    0.02360921 Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
    0.02366123 England_EIA
    0.02425069 England_MIA
    0.02466631 England_EBA_highEEF
    0.02471817 England_EastYorkshire_MIA
    0.02561909 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02615274 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
    0.02650181 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.02680815 England_LBA
    0.02692886 England_LBA_highEEF
    0.02699499 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02706818 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.02713104 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.02748787 England_Roman
    0.02753808 DEU_Singen_EBA
    0.02763812 VK2020_SWE_Karda_VA
    0.02782692 England_IA
    0.02802606 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
    0.02809029 CHE_EBA
    0.02832067 England_EastYorkshire_LIA
    0.02838465 England_LIA
    0.02861916 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
    0.02897084 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.02913304 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA

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  3. #32
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    551
    Sex
    Location
    NL
    Ethnicity
    European
    Nationality
    Dutch
    aDNA Match (1st)
    ENG IA I11991
    aDNA Match (2nd)
    SWE VA VK266
    aDNA Match (3rd)
    ENG IA I12412
    Y-DNA (P)
    R1b>U152>Z56>S1523*
    mtDNA (M)
    U5a1c
    mtDNA (P)
    H3g

    Netherlands France Belgium Germany
    Our results:

    Distance to: Kellebel_scaled
    0.02019710 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02147735 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02230932 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.02288633 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.02290297 England_MIA
    0.02303973 England_EIA
    0.02325903 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.02354151 England_MIA_LIA
    0.02359797 VK2020_SWE_Karda_VA
    0.02393056 England_EastYorkshire_MIA
    0.02399670 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
    0.02468572 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.02495266 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
    0.02500444 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
    0.02507042 England_LIA
    0.02508136 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.02538178 England_Roman
    0.02553628 England_IA
    0.02570345 Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
    0.02623503 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.02638755 England_LBA
    0.02646720 England_EastYorkshire_LIA
    0.02676371 England_EBA_highEEF
    0.02681281 DEU_Singen_EBA
    0.02711125 CHE_EBA

    Distance to: Kae_scaled (father)
    0.02094262 VK2020_Faroes_EM
    0.02149751 England_EastYorkshire_MIA
    0.02151804 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
    0.02168992 England_Roman
    0.02173364 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.02236649 DEU_MA_Baiuvaric
    0.02336117 Scotland_EIA
    0.02339699 England_MIA_LIA
    0.02456412 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
    0.02458438 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.02503446 England_IA
    0.02560573 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
    0.02567421 England_MIA
    0.02589004 VK2020_ISL_Hofstadir_VA
    0.02603928 VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA
    0.02652029 Scotland_MIA
    0.02665558 England_IA_EarlyMedieval
    0.02676655 England_LIA
    0.02690135 England_Saxon
    0.02704521 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
    0.02740568 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    0.02743997 VK2020_GreenlandE_VA
    0.02782152 England_EIA
    0.02817997 VK2020_ISL_Hringsdalur_VA
    0.02828260 NLD_MIA_LIA

    Distance to: Ella_scaled (mother)
    0.01898063 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.02094886 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02393762 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.02582321 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.02592761 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02741493 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.02769060 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02789698 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.02805899 England_LBA_highEEF
    0.02867892 VK2020_SWE_Karda_VA
    0.02949896 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.02996736 ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU_o
    0.03039654 ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_CEU_o
    0.03050516 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.03079270 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
    0.03101601 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.03103570 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.03115256 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.03123019 DEU_Lech_BBC
    0.03125125 CHE_EBA
    0.03133186 England_EIA
    0.03154120 DEU_Singen_EBA
    0.03170395 England_EBA_highEEF
    0.03213117 CZE_IA_La_Tene_low_res
    0.03255777 England_LIA_highEEF

    Distance to: Pao_scaled (maternal grandmother)
    0.01760918 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02014312 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.02056378 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02057986 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02361468 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.02428259 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.02440108 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.02532087 England_EBA_highEEF
    0.02554717 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.02555847 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.02578408 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
    0.02580896 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.02600769 England_EIA
    0.02605791 DEU_Singen_EBA
    0.02667916 England_MIA
    0.02671160 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.02741030 England_MIA_LIA
    0.02745858 VK2020_SWE_Karda_VA
    0.02783171 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
    0.02789465 DEU_Lech_EBA
    0.02798071 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.02799877 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
    0.02809519 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.02810126 FRA_Grand_Est_EBA
    0.02821897 CHE_EBA
    I seem to be the child of a Germanic father and a Celtic mother.

    @0.01670898
    ___________

    59.4% Germanic
    33.0% Gaulish
    7.6% Roman

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  5. #33
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    49% Nord France, 18% Bretagne/Basse Normandie, 16% Pologne, 9% Allemagne/Alsace, 7% Hte Normandie
    Ethnicity
    French, Polish and German
    aDNA Match (1st)
    ITA_Collegno_MA:CL63
    aDNA Match (2nd)
    VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA:VK363
    aDNA Match (3rd)
    VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA:VK329
    Y-DNA (P)
    I-M72
    mtDNA (M)
    H6a1a

    France Normandie France Bretagne Poland
    Distance to: Me
    0.03012400 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.03343388 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.03351660 ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU_o
    0.03417297 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.03439182 SVK_IA_Vekerzug
    0.03613554 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.03639722 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.03710960 HUN_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat
    0.03810062 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.03837401 England_LBA_highEEF
    0.03953089 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.03958680 DEU_Singen_EIA
    0.04024057 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.04055825 HUN_IA_La_Tene
    0.04056863 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.04066711 FRA_Grand_Est_IA2
    0.04107657 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.04177235 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.04198170 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    0.04218818 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.04331785 Scythian_HUN
    0.04388372 DEU_MA_Baiuvaric
    0.04392625 FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2
    0.04435305 CZE_IA_La_Tene_low_res
    0.04461464 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA

    Target: Me
    Distance: 1.8807% / 0.01880743 | R3P
    40.4 HUN_MA_Szolad_o1
    37.6 Scotland_LIA_low_res
    22.0 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res


    Distance to: Mymother
    0.02340869 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02507335 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.02577604 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02626750 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.02632212 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02646899 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.02692654 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.02829882 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.03017583 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.03019461 HUN_IA_La_Tene
    0.03153123 DEU_Lech_EBA_contam
    0.03169137 DEU_Lech_BBC
    0.03230969 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.03257314 CZE_IA_La_Tene_low_res
    0.03338216 SVN_LBA
    0.03338393 SVK_IA_Vekerzug
    0.03346365 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.03434976 DEU_Singen_EBA
    0.03444923 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.03449983 VK2020_SWE_Karda_VA
    0.03452538 Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
    0.03480527 England_LBA_highEEF
    0.03510055 HUN_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat
    0.03548851 HUN_LBA
    0.03555804 Scythian_HUN

    Target: Mymother
    Distance: 1.7068% / 0.01706834 | R3P
    58.2 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    31.6 Wales_IA
    10.2 NLD_EIA_low_res


    Distance to: Mysister
    0.02444191 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02491027 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02546813 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.02638682 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02884387 Scythian_HUN
    0.02910929 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.03036733 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.03083809 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.03153917 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
    0.03157698 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.03165353 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.03178909 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.03192011 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.03194899 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.03232374 CZE_IA_La_Tene_low_res
    0.03313827 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
    0.03319248 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
    0.03320450 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.03351529 FRA_Grand_Est_IA2
    0.03404187 HUN_LBA
    0.03438703 VK2020_DNK_Funen_VA
    0.03457440 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.03527429 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
    0.03539967 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
    0.03570077 HUN_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat

    Target: Mysister
    Distance: 1.6160% / 0.01615954 | R3P
    65.0 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    25.8 NLD_EBA
    9.2 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res


    Distance to: Myhalfsister
    0.01493802 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.01588227 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.01941421 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.02083238 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.02105953 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.02119476 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02138465 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.02183010 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
    0.02269071 England_MIA_LIA
    0.02287232 England_EIA
    0.02306256 England_MIA
    0.02385821 England_LIA
    0.02386272 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02416289 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
    0.02419371 Bell_Beaker_CZE
    0.02420675 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
    0.02470946 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.02474432 FRA_Grand_Est_EBA
    0.02476448 VK2020_DNK_Funen_VA
    0.02528351 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
    0.02529260 England_EBA_highEEF
    0.02546440 Wales_MIA
    0.02575605 England_Roman
    0.02600710 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
    0.02607510 England_IA

    Target: Myhalfsister
    Distance: 1.1221% / 0.01122067 | R3P
    42.8 Scythian_HUN
    34.2 England_MIA_LIA_o
    23.0 FRA_Medieval

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  7. #34
    Registered Users
    Posts
    572
    Sex
    Location
    Andalusia
    Ethnicity
    Andalusian (Spain)
    Nationality
    Espańola
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-V22--E-BY7449
    mtDNA (M)
    J1c5c1
    mtDNA (P)
    U6a3b1

    Spain Andalucia
    Target: hantro_scaled
    Distance: 1.0640% / 0.01063994 | R5P
    33.8 DEU_Anselfingen_FN
    26.8 ESP_Menorca_LBA_new
    24.6 ESP_EIA_Tartessian
    8.6 TUR_Barcin_C
    6.2 ITA_Sardinia_C_o


    Target: hantro_scaled
    Distance: 0.8786% / 0.00878576 | R7P
    22.6 ITA_Etruscan_Magliano
    19.6 ESP_LIA
    18.8 ESP_EIA_Tartessian
    17.2 DEU_Anselfingen_FN
    8.4 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
    8.2 England_LBA_lowEEF
    5.2 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res

    Distance to: hantro_scaled
    0.02822339 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.03426806 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.03490586 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
    0.03557673 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_o
    0.03685931 DEU_Roman
    0.03845262 ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA
    0.03938081 FRA_SouthEast_IA2
    0.03946826 SVN_EIA
    0.04008978 Bell_Beaker_CHE
    0.04065076 Iberia_North_IA
    0.04118790 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    0.04204547 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole
    0.04242186 Iberia_East_IA
    0.04259206 ESP_LIA
    0.04292270 CHE_IA
    0.04292878 HRV_EIA
    0.04298962 CZE_LBA_Knoviz_o3
    0.04300351 DEU_Lech_EBA_contam
    0.04337958 SRB_BA_Maros
    0.04343600 FRA_LN_EBA
    0.04372622 HRV_MBA
    0.04379100 HUN_IA_La_Tene
    0.04399849 ESP_Menorca_LBA_new
    0.04402403 England_MBA_highEEF
    0.04433392 HUN_La_Tene


    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 1.3010% / 0.01300971 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    33.8 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
    17.8 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_o
    9.4 SWE_BA
    9.2 ESP_LIA
    8.0 CHE_FN_steppe_contam
    8.0 DEU_Lech_MBA
    7.6 Channel_Islands_LN_low_res
    5.8 Scotland_C_EBA_highEEF_low_res
    0.4 CZE_Early_Slav


    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.5091% / 0.02509077 | ADC: 2x RC
    44.0 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_o
    31.4 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    24.6 DEU_Roman

    Distance to: Father_scaled
    0.03192814 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_o
    0.03281357 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.03411026 DEU_Roman
    0.03706859 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
    0.04143091 ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA
    0.04150030 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.04156246 CHE_IA
    0.04200051 SVN_EIA
    0.04201983 FRA_SouthEast_IA2
    0.04289526 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    0.04320562 SRB_BA_Maros
    0.04393197 DEU_Lech_EBA_contam
    0.04410858 Iberia_North_IA
    0.04432784 CZE_LBA_Knoviz_o3
    0.04454367 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole
    0.04457880 HUN_IA_La_Tene
    0.04503982 Iberia_East_IA
    0.04505014 HUN_La_Tene
    0.04509725 HRV_MBA
    0.04536428 HRV_EIA
    0.04595973 SRB_Mokrin_EBA_Maros
    0.04608734 ESP_LIA
    0.04623530 ESP_IA
    0.04634881 FRA_LN_EBA
    0.04647532 DEU_Lech_MBA
    Last edited by hantrolugharsts; 01-17-2022 at 04:45 PM.
    E-BY7449 E-BY7566 E-FT155550 YF87731 YF66572
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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  9. #35
    Registered Users
    Posts
    608
    Sex
    Location
    49% Nord France, 18% Bretagne/Basse Normandie, 16% Pologne, 9% Allemagne/Alsace, 7% Hte Normandie
    Ethnicity
    French, Polish and German
    aDNA Match (1st)
    ITA_Collegno_MA:CL63
    aDNA Match (2nd)
    VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA:VK363
    aDNA Match (3rd)
    VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA:VK329
    Y-DNA (P)
    I-M72
    mtDNA (M)
    H6a1a

    France Normandie France Bretagne Poland
    Quote Originally Posted by xerxez View Post
    Distance to: Me
    0.03012400 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.03343388 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.03351660 ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU_o
    0.03417297 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.03439182 SVK_IA_Vekerzug
    0.03613554 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.03639722 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.03710960 HUN_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat
    0.03810062 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.03837401 England_LBA_highEEF
    0.03953089 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.03958680 DEU_Singen_EIA
    0.04024057 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.04055825 HUN_IA_La_Tene
    0.04056863 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.04066711 FRA_Grand_Est_IA2
    0.04107657 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.04177235 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.04198170 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    0.04218818 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.04331785 Scythian_HUN
    0.04388372 DEU_MA_Baiuvaric
    0.04392625 FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2
    0.04435305 CZE_IA_La_Tene_low_res
    0.04461464 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA

    Target: Me
    Distance: 1.8807% / 0.01880743 | R3P
    40.4 HUN_MA_Szolad_o1
    37.6 Scotland_LIA_low_res
    22.0 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res


    Distance to: Mymother
    0.02340869 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02507335 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.02577604 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02626750 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.02632212 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02646899 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.02692654 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.02829882 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.03017583 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.03019461 HUN_IA_La_Tene
    0.03153123 DEU_Lech_EBA_contam
    0.03169137 DEU_Lech_BBC
    0.03230969 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.03257314 CZE_IA_La_Tene_low_res
    0.03338216 SVN_LBA
    0.03338393 SVK_IA_Vekerzug
    0.03346365 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.03434976 DEU_Singen_EBA
    0.03444923 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.03449983 VK2020_SWE_Karda_VA
    0.03452538 Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
    0.03480527 England_LBA_highEEF
    0.03510055 HUN_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat
    0.03548851 HUN_LBA
    0.03555804 Scythian_HUN

    Target: Mymother
    Distance: 1.7068% / 0.01706834 | R3P
    58.2 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    31.6 Wales_IA
    10.2 NLD_EIA_low_res


    Distance to: Mysister
    0.02444191 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02491027 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02546813 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.02638682 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.02884387 Scythian_HUN
    0.02910929 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.03036733 SVK_LIA_La_Tene
    0.03083809 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.03153917 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
    0.03157698 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.03165353 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.03178909 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.03192011 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.03194899 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.03232374 CZE_IA_La_Tene_low_res
    0.03313827 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
    0.03319248 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
    0.03320450 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.03351529 FRA_Grand_Est_IA2
    0.03404187 HUN_LBA
    0.03438703 VK2020_DNK_Funen_VA
    0.03457440 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.03527429 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
    0.03539967 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
    0.03570077 HUN_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat

    Target: Mysister
    Distance: 1.6160% / 0.01615954 | R3P
    65.0 AUT_IA_La_Tene
    25.8 NLD_EBA
    9.2 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res


    Distance to: Myhalfsister
    0.01493802 CZE_IA_La_Tene
    0.01588227 CZE_LBA_Knoviz
    0.01941421 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_VA
    0.02083238 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.02105953 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA
    0.02119476 CZE_IA_Hallstatt
    0.02138465 FRA_GrandEst_IA2
    0.02183010 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
    0.02269071 England_MIA_LIA
    0.02287232 England_EIA
    0.02306256 England_MIA
    0.02385821 England_LIA
    0.02386272 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.02416289 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_VA
    0.02419371 Bell_Beaker_CZE
    0.02420675 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
    0.02470946 CZE_MBA_Tumulus
    0.02474432 FRA_Grand_Est_EBA
    0.02476448 VK2020_DNK_Funen_VA
    0.02528351 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
    0.02529260 England_EBA_highEEF
    0.02546440 Wales_MIA
    0.02575605 England_Roman
    0.02600710 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
    0.02607510 England_IA

    Target: Myhalfsister
    Distance: 1.1221% / 0.01122067 | R3P
    42.8 Scythian_HUN
    34.2 England_MIA_LIA_o
    23.0 FRA_Medieval
    HUN_MA_Szolad is one of the closest ancients for my mother and I.

    HUN_MA_Szolad is close to French_Nord, French_Alsace and Belgian so that's logical


    What do we know about HUN_MA_Szolad ?

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    HUN_MA_Szolad is a Germanic Lombard tribe cemetery
    This Longobard-associated/period cemetery is located above the modern village of Szólád in the Somogy County in present day Hungary, about 5 km south of Lake Balaton (latitude 46o17 ', Longitude 17o51') in a 30 km long and at this point about 400-600 m wide valley of the Transdanubian hills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    HUN_MA_Szolad is a Germanic Lombard tribe cemetery


    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...1/268250-1.pdf


    how much difference are the lombards that stayed at Szolad and the lombards that left Szolad and went to Collegno Italy ?

    Have they been compared.


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    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtDna
    Son's mtDna = K1a4p

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    how much difference are the lombards that stayed at Szolad and the lombards that left Szolad and went to Collegno Italy ?

    Have they been compared.
    I haven't looked into it.

    Below is just a comparison between the Global 25 North Europe plot and where they are ranked in distance from me (as seen in post #1).
    9th & 10th closest distances plot much closer than 1st & 2nd closest.


    I'm assuming the plot is just using 2 of the 25 PCs, while the distance is using all 25. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Distance to: AndreiKharchenko_scaled
    0.04253275 DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA
    0.04312483 VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA
    0.04428472 RUS_Sunghir_MA
    0.04567544 VK2020_POL_Bodzia_VA
    0.04711950 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.04751315 VK2020_RUS_Kurevanikha_VA
    0.04807359 Baltic_EST_IA
    0.04878921 VK2020_UKR_Lutsk_MA
    0.05062427 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA
    0.05065386 KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro
    0.05098154 CZE_Early_Slav
    0.05118624 Baltic_EST_MA
    0.05254612 VK2020_RUS_Pskov_VA
    0.05366467 VK2020_SWE_Uppsala_VA
    0.05682845 POL_EBA
    0.05690318 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    0.05714199 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA_o
    0.05728147 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine
    0.05729563 HUN_MBA_Fuzesabony
    0.05776378 VK2020_RUS_Ladoga_VA
    0.05823385 Corded_Ware_Baltic
    0.06106665 VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
    0.06136422 VK2020_UKR_Chernigov_VA_o
    0.06137191 HUN_Fuzesabony_MBA
    0.06164729 VK2020_POL_Sandomierz_VA
    Target: Andrei
    Distance: 0.2501% / 0.25007947
    55.7 Corded_Ware
    33.4 Bell_Beaker_LN
    10.0 Karasuk
    0.9 Yukagir

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    I've got a relatively high distance from population averages.

     
    Distance to: atvred_scaled
    0.04014114 CZE_Early_Slav
    0.04116038 DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric
    0.04179343 VK2020_UKR_Chernigov_VA_o
    0.04219594 HUN_IA_La_Tene_o
    0.04361850 VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA
    0.04528344 VK2020_UKR_Lutsk_MA
    0.04566719 Scythian_UKR
    0.04667168 DEU_MA_ACD_Ostrogothic
    0.04870091 RUS_Sunghir_MA
    0.05095835 HRV_Pop_RomanP
    0.05126807 Scythian_HUN
    0.05212429 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2
    0.05300304 HRV_MBA_LBA
    0.05320388 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
    0.05353874 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    0.05359936 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
    0.05591128 HUN_Fuzesabony_MBA
    0.05708150 HUN_MBA_Fuzesabony
    0.05711451 HUN_MA
    0.05865129 SVK_IA_Vekerzug
    0.05880738 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.05935327 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
    0.05964742 SVK_LIA
    0.05975143 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine
    0.06016839 DEU_Alberstedt_LN


    In terms of individual samples, though, I've noticed one Viking Age individual from Gnezdovo, VK254, that was surprisingly close.

     
    Distance to: atvred_scaled
    0.03117475 VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK254
    0.04014114 CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569
    0.04179343 VK2020_UKR_Chernigov_VA_o:VK542
    0.04343726 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA:VK274
    0.04360487 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK476
    0.04410400 SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I5288
    0.04440629 VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK272
    0.04528344 VK2020_UKR_Lutsk_MA:VK541
    0.04632051 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA:VK362
    0.04635792 VK2020_RUS_Ladoga_VA:VK19
    0.04656705 SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I12107
    0.04678155 CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I16089
    0.04705148 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
    0.04870091 RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
    0.04974008 DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_228
    0.05095835 HRV_Pop_RomanP:POP23
    0.05147125 Scythian_UKR:MJ34
    0.05212429 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2:SZ25
    0.05285169 HUN_IA_La_Tene_o:I18182
    0.05299753 DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:AED_1135
    0.05300304 HRV_MBA_LBA:I18719
    0.05320388 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37
    0.05345324 Scythian_HUN:DA197
    0.05354726 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12031
    0.05363330 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK454


    I've taken a closer look, and VK254 looks like a mix of Slavic, East-Med/Balkan (Byzantine?), and something from the Steppes.

     
    Target: VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK254
    Distance: 2.7772% / 0.02777151
    50.4 Avar_Szolad
    27.0 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    20.4 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    2.2 Levant_Beirut_IAII


    qpAdm models

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    p	Hungary_AvarSzolad	Mongolia_EIA_SlabGrave_1	Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean	feasible	target
    0.10836017622577451	0.5359471724706005	0.11892348792419236	0.3451293396052071	TRUE	VK254
    regular

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    Code:
    Hungary_AvarSzolad     1.732     0.000     0.000 
    Mongolia_EIA_SlabGrave_1     0.000     1.732     0.000 
    Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean     0.000     0.000     1.732 
     
     
    best coefficients:     0.564     0.122     0.313 
    totmean:      0.564     0.122     0.313 
    boot mean:     0.567     0.123     0.310 
          std. errors:     0.075     0.017     0.081

    Not too far off myself

     
    Target: atvred_scaled
    Distance: 2.3902% / 0.02390169
    59.0 Avar_Szolad
    19.6 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals
    12.4 Levant_Beirut_IAII
    9.0 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2


    An exotic sample; surprised it wasn't labeled an outlier.

    Although, to be fair, these Gnezdovo individuals are far from homogenous.


     

    Target: VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK273
    Distance: 2.6910% / 0.02691004
    51.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    42.8 Avar_Szolad
    4.4 Levant_Beirut_IAII
    1.4 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals


     


    Target: VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK224
    Distance: 3.3600% / 0.03360006
    85.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    13.0 Avar_Szolad
    1.2 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals



     
    Target: VK2020_RUS_Gnezdovo_VA:VK223
    Distance: 3.7779% / 0.03777893
    94.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    6.0 Sarmatian_RUS_Urals

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