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    23andMe "Relative Finder" Results

    A thread to discuss Relative Finder results. Please feel free to contribute with experiences, updates, etc.

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    First new RF match in a long while (ever since their price hike, it seems). Through both my father and mother's profile, so I presume this individual is at least part Assyrian. Here are the available details:

    Y-DNA: J1e (J1-P58) <-- Not often observed in E Assyrians
    mtDNA: J1b3

    With my mother
    3rd to 4th cousin
    .43% shared
    4 segments

    With my father
    3rd to distant cousin
    .18% shared
    2 segments

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    I've been checking out the map feature, and I feel torn about its usefulness. On one hand, the US locations seem to be pretty decent at indicating regional ancestry. On the other hand, though, the Europe and Asia features are useless. For example, I have a huge chunk of Iberian results all from 1 single relative, who has a ton of family locations listed in his profile.




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    My map lists, using the both sides/paternal side/not paternal side functions:

    Both sides:
    Top Locations

    England, UK (12)
    North Carolina, USA (12)
    Virginia, USA (12)
    New York, NY, USA (12)
    Germany (10)
    Ireland (10)
    California, USA (9)
    Kentucky, USA (9)

    Father's side
    Top Locations

    California, USA (6)
    Kentucky, USA (6)
    North Carolina, USA (5)
    Tennessee, USA (4)
    Virginia, USA (4)
    New York, NY, USA (4)
    Ireland (4)
    Ohio, USA (4)

    Mother's side
    Top Locations

    England, UK (11)
    Virginia, USA (8)
    Germany (8)
    New York, NY, USA (8)
    North Carolina, USA (7)
    Pennsylvania, USA (7)
    London, UK (6)
    Ireland (6)

    I suppose this, taking into account movement to population centers in the 20th century, is a reasonable picture (New York City has little to do with my own family history but is notable in both sides, for example). Interestingly, the UK distribution has some resonance on my mother's side. On her paternal branch there is a strong Quaker presence, and we pop up with lots of North Midlands relatives which is what the history books might suggest. On her mother's side we of course knew about likely Lowland Scots families, and they definitely show up, but there is also a noticeable tight cluster around Inverness which makes me think a bit. The presence of Pennsylvania on mom's list but not on dad's list does reflect the different starting point of their families in the American colonies.
    Last edited by History-of-Things; 09-03-2012 at 04:55 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet Ibis View Post
    I've been checking out the map feature, and I feel torn about its usefulness. On one hand, the US locations seem to be pretty decent at indicating regional ancestry.
    This is a good point and it even has me thinking that regional ancestry in the US can be a good indicator of Old World ancestry, if you look at settlement patterns, because there are so many more Americans testing.

    As an example, my Ashkenazi grandfather has his matches in New York City (66), Chicago (19), and L.A. (11); meanwhile, my mother has most of her matches in Texas (19), Virginia (17), North Carolina (16), and Georgia (14), consistent with her largely Scottish, Irish, and German genes.

    Now if only I can figure out how my mother got three different relatives in Colombia!
     

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    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    One of the problems I have with the feature is that people are obviously interpreting "family locations" to mean different things. To me, there should be some ancestral component. For example, if your ancestors have been living in a location for a certain amount of years, settled land there, etc.

    Others, however, are apparently listing places where they, or their family members have lived for a short amount of time. For example, the Japan hits I have are actually not from my Korean side. They are "white" American relatives from my father's side who listed US military bases in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJL View Post
    Now if only I can figure out how my mother got three different relatives in Colombia!
    Maybe from German immigrants to Latin america in the 19th and early 20th century?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC11 View Post
    Maybe from German immigrants to Latin america in the 19th and early 20th century?
    Yes, thanks, that does seem most likely.
     

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    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    With 2,000 Relative Finder cousins, almost all shared with my grandfather, I sometimes think I will never learn anything new from RF.

    Then, today, I noticed I have an 8.0-cM block shared with a Kazakh gentleman. His ancestry painting is very Central Asian. This block is not shared with my grandfather, nor his cousin. It's also not shared with my mother nor my maternal aunt. I can't help thinking this comes from my paternal grandmother's mother's family, more specifically the branch from Aleppo, Syria, then in the Ottoman Empire. This may wholly or partially tie in with the bits of North Asian/Siberian I get with various analyses, since there's a big spike of Northeast Asian (the green) exactly where we overlap, via Gedmatch's Dodecad.

    I suspect it's a legacy of the silk trade.
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    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    AJL, that is amazing! It is little finds like these that make genetic genealogy so fascinating and intriguing to me. Thanks for sharing.

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    My pleasure, Human!
     

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    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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