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    Just messing around with P312, U106 and DF19 MDKA percentages in particular

    Data taken from FTDNA BlockTree. These are percentages of the haplogroup reporting MDKA from a particular country, not absolute numbers.

    Countries highest % in U106, then DF19, then P312 overall:
    Denmark, England, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden, United States

    Countries highest % in DF19, then U106, then P312:
    Belgium, Czech Republic, Germany, Luxembourg

    Countries highest % in P312(overall), then U106, then DF19:
    France, Italy, Mexico, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Spain(no DF19 MDKA in Spain)

    Countries highest % in U106, then P312, then DF19:
    Finland, Switzerland, United Kingdom

    Countries highest % in DF19, then P312, then U106:
    Australia, Canada, Scotland

    Countries highest % P312, then DF19, then U106:
    Ireland, Wales

    Data with absolute numbers - clearly Spain and Italy under-report at FTDNA but that shouldn't affect the percentage ratios:

    Code:
    DF19
    Germany	14	136	136	22.78%
    England	9	104	104	17.42%
    Scotland	3	92	92	15.41%
    United States	4	77	77	12.90%
    Ireland	4	38	38	6.37%
    United Kingdom	6	31	31	5.19%
    Belgium	2	17	17	2.85%
    Netherlands	2	16	16	2.68%
    France	5	14	14	2.35%
    Northern Ireland	0	9	9	1.51%
    Norway	2	8	8	1.34%
    Sweden	2	8	8	1.34%
    Wales	1	7	7	1.17%
    Canada	1	6	6	1.01%
    United States (Native American)	2	5	5	0.84%
    Czech Republic	0	5	5	0.84%
    Switzerland	2	4	4	0.67%
    Poland	1	4	4	0.67%
    Italy	1	3	3	0.50%
    Russian Federation	0	3	3	0.50%
    Denmark	0	3	3	0.50%
    Austria	1	2	2	0.34%
    Luxembourg	1	1	1	0.17%
    Portugal	0	1	1	0.17%
    Guyana	0	1	1	0.17%
    Isle of Man	0	1	1	0.17%
    Iceland	0	1	1	0.17%
    Unknown Origin	169	520	520	**
    Total	232	1,117	1,117	100.00%
    
    P312(all)				
    Ireland	97	6,738	6,738	25.04%
    England	158	3,783	3,783	14.06%
    Scotland	81	3,761	3,761	13.98%
    United States	29	3,099	3,099	11.52%
    United Kingdom	95	1,443	1,443	5.36%
    France	106	1,272	1,272	4.73%
    Germany	89	1,213	1,213	4.51%
    Spain	124	742	742	2.76%
    Northern Ireland	10	671	671	2.49%
    Wales	28	554	554	2.06%
    Italy	22	443	443	1.65%
    Switzerland	40	409	409	1.52%
    Sweden	7	331	331	1.23%
    Portugal	35	299	299	1.11%
    Norway	10	219	219	0.81%
    Netherlands	15	176	176	0.65%
    Canada	3	175	175	0.65%
    Mexico	10	149	149	0.55%
    Poland	6	139	139	0.52%
    Belgium	13	119	119	0.44%
    United States (Native American)	0	105	105	0.39%
    Czech Republic	1	89	89	0.33%
    Denmark	7	82	82	0.30%
    Finland	1	78	78	0.29%
    Hungary	6	61	61	0.23%
    Russian Federation	3	61	61	0.23%
    Austria	6	54	54	0.20%
    Brazil	3	50	50	0.19%
    Puerto Rico	3	49	49	0.18%
    Australia	0	46	46	0.17%
    Ukraine	4	40	40	0.15%
    Belarus	1	31	31	0.12%
    Lithuania	0	25	25	0.09%
    Romania	3	22	22	0.08%
    Greece	2	21	21	0.08%
    Isle of Man	0	17	17	0.06%
    Colombia	0	16	16	0.06%
    Cuba	0	16	16	0.06%
    Bulgaria	1	15	15	0.06%
    Serbia	1	15	15	0.06%
    Luxembourg	1	14	14	0.05%
    Slovakia	0	14	14	0.05%
    Barbados	1	13	13	0.05%
    New Zealand	0	13	13	0.05%
    Turkey	1	12	12	0.04%
    Chile	1	12	12	0.04%
    Slovenia	1	11	11	0.04%
    Latvia	0	11	11	0.04%
    Lebanon	0	11	11	0.04%
    Algeria	2	10	10	0.04%
    Armenia	1	10	10	0.04%
    South Africa	0	9	9	0.03%
    Argentina	0	9	9	0.03%
    El Salvador	0	9	9	0.03%
    Haiti	0	7	7	0.03%
    Malta	1	6	6	0.02%
    Peru	1	6	6	0.02%
    Costa Rica	0	6	6	0.02%
    Iceland	0	5	5	0.02%
    Guernsey	0	5	5	0.02%
    Croatia	1	4	4	0.01%
    Morocco	0	4	4	0.01%
    Jamaica	0	4	4	0.01%
    Venezuela	0	4	4	0.01%
    Estonia	0	4	4	0.01%
    Dominican Republic	0	4	4	0.01%
    Moldova	0	3	3	0.01%
    Iran	0	3	3	0.01%
    India	0	3	3	0.01%
    Nicaragua	0	3	3	0.01%
    Liechtenstein	0	3	3	0.01%
    Bosnia and Herzegovina	0	3	3	0.01%
    Iraq	0	2	2	0.01%
    United States (Kānaka Maoli)	0	2	2	0.01%
    Mongolia	0	2	2	0.01%
    Sri Lanka	0	2	2	0.01%
    Honduras	0	2	2	0.01%
    Montenegro	0	2	2	0.01%
    Egypt	0	2	2	0.01%
    Syrian Arab Republic	0	2	2	0.01%
    Philippines	0	2	2	0.01%
    Guyana	0	1	1	0.00%
    Faroe Islands	0	1	1	0.00%
    Ghana	0	1	1	0.00%
    Saint Kitts and Nevis	0	1	1	0.00%
    Antigua and Barbuda	0	1	1	0.00%
    Cayman Islands	0	1	1	0.00%
    Tajikistan	0	1	1	0.00%
    Trinidad and Tobago	0	1	1	0.00%
    Vietnam	0	1	1	0.00%
    Bahamas	0	1	1	0.00%
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines	0	1	1	0.00%
    Palestinian Territory	0	1	1	0.00%
    Belize	0	1	1	0.00%
    Kazakhstan	0	1	1	0.00%
    Mauritius	0	1	1	0.00%
    Saudi Arabia	0	1	1	0.00%
    Azerbaijan	0	1	1	0.00%
    Rapa Nui (Easter Island)	0	1	1	0.00%
    Mauritania	0	1	1	0.00%
    Qatar	0	1	1	0.00%
    Guatemala	0	1	1	0.00%
    Paraguay	0	1	1	0.00%
    Ecuador	0	1	1	0.00%
    Panama	0	1	1	0.00%
    Mozambique	0	1	1	0.00%
    Unknown Origin	587	21,458	21,458	**
    
    U106				
    England	155	2,173	2,173	24.60%
    United States	26	1,178	1,178	13.34%
    Germany	117	1,061	1,061	12.01%
    Scotland	57	814	814	9.22%
    United Kingdom	66	608	608	6.88%
    Ireland	49	550	550	6.23%
    Sweden	20	381	381	4.31%
    Netherlands	29	264	264	2.99%
    France	32	243	243	2.75%
    Norway	18	196	196	2.22%
    Switzerland	27	140	140	1.59%
    Northern Ireland	6	140	140	1.59%
    Poland	17	127	127	1.44%
    Finland	2	107	107	1.21%
    Denmark	15	89	89	1.01%
    Wales	8	86	86	0.97%
    Belgium	7	67	67	0.76%
    Czech Republic	6	63	63	0.71%
    Italy	15	61	61	0.69%
    Russian Federation	7	47	47	0.53%
    Canada	1	44	44	0.50%
    Austria	3	43	43	0.49%
    Hungary	8	42	42	0.48%
    Spain	4	42	42	0.48%
    United States (Native American)	1	37	37	0.42%
    Ukraine	3	30	30	0.34%
    Portugal	5	24	24	0.27%
    Lithuania	1	17	17	0.19%
    Slovakia	1	15	15	0.17%
    Luxembourg	1	12	12	0.14%
    Belarus	1	11	11	0.12%
    Estonia	0	11	11	0.12%
    Australia	0	9	9	0.10%
    Mexico	0	7	7	0.08%
    Latvia	0	7	7	0.08%
    Romania	3	6	6	0.07%
    Barbados	1	6	6	0.07%
    Bulgaria	1	6	6	0.07%
    New Zealand	0	6	6	0.07%
    Slovenia	0	6	6	0.07%
    Jamaica	1	4	4	0.05%
    Brazil	0	4	4	0.05%
    South Africa	0	4	4	0.05%
    Greece	1	3	3	0.03%
    Serbia	1	3	3	0.03%
    Guernsey	0	3	3	0.03%
    Macedonia	0	2	2	0.02%
    Turkey	0	2	2	0.02%
    Croatia	0	2	2	0.02%
    Saint Kitts and Nevis	0	2	2	0.02%
    Isle of Man	0	2	2	0.02%
    India	0	2	2	0.02%
    Malta	0	2	2	0.02%
    Oman	1	1	1	0.01%
    Peru	1	1	1	0.01%
    Venezuela	1	1	1	0.01%
    Cyprus	1	1	1	0.01%
    Cuba	0	1	1	0.01%
    Israel	0	1	1	0.01%
    Antigua and Barbuda	0	1	1	0.01%
    Faroe Islands	0	1	1	0.01%
    Iran	0	1	1	0.01%
    Yemen	0	1	1	0.01%
    Bosnia and Herzegovina	0	1	1	0.01%
    Honduras	0	1	1	0.01%
    Indonesia	0	1	1	0.01%
    Chile	0	1	1	0.01%
    Colombia	0	1	1	0.01%
    Puerto Rico	0	1	1	0.01%
    Kazakhstan	0	1	1	0.01%
    Guyana	0	1	1	0.01%
    Belize	0	1	1	0.01%
    Jersey	0	1	1	0.01%
    Bahamas	0	1	1	0.01%
    Unknown Origin	656	8,580	8,580	**
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Not sure what to make of this:

    Countries highest % in DF19, then U106, then P312:
    Belgium, Czech Republic, Germany, Luxembourg

    1. It is a contiguous belt.
    2. The three oldest samples of DF19 are not in this belt, they are to the north in the U106>DF19>P312 Netherlands (Saxon migration? general drift?)
    3. The fourth oldest DF19 sample is from Bohemia (Hallstatt era), and/but autosomally looks like the older NLD samples.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    United States of America Lebanon Germany United Kingdom Belgium Switzerland
    Countries highest % in U106, then DF19, then P312 overall:
    Denmark, England, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden, United States

    Countries highest % in DF19, then U106, then P312:
    Belgium, Czech Republic, Germany, Luxembourg
    Two of the larger subclades of P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112 which are BY44243/R-FT354149 and S17075 have nearly all of the above countries covered.

    Z17112>FT354149 has all of the above (except Luxembourg and Czech Rep.) plus Ireland, Scotland, Austria and France (but the French one is actually German). It also includes VK333 (and me)

    Z17112>S17075 has all of the above (except Lux., Czech Rep., Denmark and Poland) plus Ireland, Scotland, Switzerland, Wales, Russia and France (and Guyana). It also includes 6DRIF23 and Phillip Calvert (Gov. of Maryland ~1660 and son of 1st Baron Baltimore)

    Another son of Z17112, Z17112>Z27257 includes England, Netherlands and Sweden from the top group, and includes Germany, Belgium and Czech Rep from the second, plus Scotland, Ireland, France and Wales.

    Still another, Z17112>Z21380 has just Germany from the second group, but has England, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands plus Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Russia.

    How does a minor P312 descendant have their subclades become distributed like that?
    Other than places like Germany, Scotland and England, the raw numbers aren't that high, yet the coverage is still there across the subclades.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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