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Thread: Ancestry Update + Ethnicity Inheritance (Apr 2022)

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    What I took away from the survey about the chromosome painter was that they are considering further phasing your maternal and paternal sides to identify contributions from all four of your grandparents. In regards to the questions about proceeding with this I voted hell yes.

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    3 Great GP 100% Ireland, 2 Great GP 100% Wales 7 GreatGreats 100% Ireland, 4 GreatGP 100% Wales ,3rdGreat GP Sweden,

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    Well BECAUSE they have indicated that ONLY my Parent #1 (DAD) is from Wales I know by their BETA Sample SO I can actually SEE WHICH Chromosomes my Welsh is on NOT Chromo # 2,4,7,12,13,14,16,20, 21 And since SOME of my Welsh share Considerable DNA ( the 1/2 First Cousin) I'll be able to extrapolate a conclusion or two.. and My Mother Has the only Sweden /Denmark Chromsome 11 & 19


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    Fantstown Castle 13C Limerick Ancestral

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    They still do a better job then 23andme in my opinion for north western Africans. I’ve noticed 23andme drag everything into the North African component making the user look 100 percent when they ain’t

    Ancestry dna does a good job showing all my sub Saharan dna while 23 and me does a terrible job at it they seem to absorb it into the North African component, I’ve seen users with higher sub Saharan then me scoring 100 percent North African on 23 and me
    23andMe is explicitly about recent ancestry and in the cases you mentioned its no recent, genealogically relevant Subsaharan admixture.

    Like I wrote before, all companies need to switch to different estimates for different time periods.

    Because even most North Africans with SSA an ancestry equating let's say 1/8 SSA don't have a Nigerian great grandfather.

    But that's what people are searching for if getting high numbers, like Germans searching for English, Scandinavian, Balkan or Italian great grandparents, which they usually don't have.

    It's more ancient similarity and admixture, sometimes just an insufficient reference or algorithm.

    SSA is more special though, because its always clearly recognisable, but I understand the thought process of 23andMe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceni View Post
    I'm not advocating getting rid of Scotland by any means, but I seriously doubt the amount of Northern England included in it makes any sense. It would be just as perverse to lump Scotland in with Northern English. Known history certainly wouldn't support either contention.
    I have a block on both sides of my Scottish line just before 1800.
    One side has a name so common as to be untraceable.
    And the other changed their surname from something else. But at least the latter has matches associated with Ayrshire, and some in Cumbria.
    But the biggest matches, there from my very first test results more than a decade ago, suggest a Common Ancestor from down in Durham.
    Still can't work out a connection, and I can't find historical movements that would support any general activity of this nature, but mine is there.
    Just maybe, somebody moved to Scotland with the 1745 retreat??? Or with cattle drovers?

    There are so many uncertainties evident in what we are seeing that the lower perimeter is probably just a glitch.
    On, on, on, to August 17th or whenever.
    New disappointments await!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    23andMe is explicitly about recent ancestry and in the cases you mentioned its no recent, genealogically relevant Subsaharan admixture.

    Like I wrote before, all companies need to switch to different estimates for different time periods.

    Because even most North Africans with SSA an ancestry equating let's say 1/8 SSA don't have a Nigerian great grandfather.

    But that's what people are searching for if getting high numbers, like Germans searching for English, Scandinavian, Balkan or Italian great grandparents, which they usually don't have.

    It's more ancient similarity and admixture, sometimes just an insufficient reference or algorithm.

    SSA is more special though, because its always clearly recognisable, but I understand the thought process of 23andMe.
    Yes.

    23andMe also smoothes the results by having 100-SNP blocks that are fully assigned to the majority ancestry component. Very old and scattered ancestries that are not big enough to form own majorities in such blocks are consumed. Which is suitable for their ancestry composition referreing to abt. 1500 AD.

    You likely know all this but I write it for common understanding.

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    From some posts here I DO See some changes between Scotland and Wales ..My Sister has 38% Welsh 2% Scot and stayed the same thru last update I was 34% Last update and 7% Scottish.. Currently I have 18% Scots and 27% Walesand The only Scots we have ( I've said this before) is North Irish who fairly recently settled there...
    Our Biological GrandFather ( recently discovered ) was 100% Welsh ( per cousin matches) I suspect the "Side View" calculated more of my close cousins as Scottish .. Several that I have noted.. I am looking forward to this whole update
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    3 Great GP 100% Ireland, 2 Great GP 100% Wales 7 GreatGreats 100% Ireland, 4 GreatGP 100% Wales ,3rdGreat GP Sweden,

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    I also thought my split was pretty accurate, it was easy to discern who was who.

    Parent 1 is mom and yields France, with French admix Ireland and Malta. This is my maternal grandma; the EE, Baltic and Finnish is NW Russian from grandpa.

    Parent 2 is dad - mostly Germanic and Swede/Dane with the direct y-line being Pomeranian (EE).

    I thought it was a good job for so many minor admixes from different populations, but I know my wife is like other testers - both parents are of English/Scottish descent - hard to tell what came from who.

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    Known Ancestry: NW Russian 25%, Central French 25%, North German 25%, Scandinavian 12.5%, mixed Polish/German (Pomerania) 12.5%

    Direct paternal: 2x great grandpa, born 1854, Danzig (Gdansk), Pomerania
    Direct maternal: 3x great grandma, born 1863, Bagneux, Indre, Centre-Val de Loire, France

    AncestryDNA (2022): Eastern Europe & Russia 24%, Sweden & Denmark 21%, Baltics 17%, Germanic Europe 17%, France 10%, England & NW Europe 4%, Ireland 4%, Finland 2%, Malta 1%

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    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uķ Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
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    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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