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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    What’s your thoughts on the ancient Bedouins having whg

    The two historic Syrian samples derive the majority of their ancestry from Neolithic Levantine populations (Levant_N, 91.3%) as well as minor proportions from Neolithic Iran (Iran_N, 4.1%) and European hunter-gatherers (WHG, 4.6%)
    That sounds very weird on multiple levels. Are they really low coverage or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    That sounds very weird on multiple levels. Are they really low coverage or something?
    Not low coverage was just interested. I found it weird as well they had whg ancestry they have significantly
    less Iranian Neolithic ancestry then Saudi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    It seems retrospectively intuitive to me that the authors have associated Anatolian ancestry with higher levels of "anxiety, guilty feelings, and irritability".
    Out of the 4 ancestral streams, that's the one that would have had the longest exposure to high population density, where conformity to social norms (especially self-motivated) would probably be more important.
    Guilt and anxiety fueling conformity.

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    With Dzudzuana carrying the U6 mtdna is a direct link for taforalt it’s a direct link for us. It seems more likely for North Africans to carry actual Dzudzuana ancestry then Dzudzuana like ancestry that the paper describes for populations like Iran N

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    With Dzudzuana carrying the U6 mtdna is a direct link for taforalt it’s a direct link for us. It seems more likely for North Africans to carry actual Dzudzuana ancestry then Dzudzuana like ancestry that the paper describes for populations like Iran N
    I m also interested in that U4'9 in Kotias individual. Since U9b later shows up in Bronze Age Turkey as well at Oylum Huyuk.
    It could be also a marker for spread of Basal ancestry (Kale mentioned spread of R2 in South/Central Asia).
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    Sample: Kapisa ► Oylum Huyuk s2000-1500BC
    Fit: 2.877
    Results: Caucasus lowlands LN • Average 67
    BedouinB • Average 19
    Tepecik Ciftlik N • Average 14
    Sample: Kapisa ► Kapisa scaled
    Fit: 1.8505
    Results: CG IVCp 42
    Bustan BA 31
    Mys MLBA 17
    Bustan BA o1 7
    Chokhopani 2700BP 3

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