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  1. #31
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    Anyone know what West-South_Asian might be pointing to here?
    Compared to Reich 1240K....

    Code:
    Distance to:	West-South_Asian
    3.79637985	PJL.SG:HG03631.SG
    4.64145451	GujaratiB:NA20854
    4.70218035	GIH.SG:NA20900.SG
    4.91154762	ITU.SG:HG03714.SG
    4.94776717	STU_o2.SG:HG03746.SG
    4.99407649	ITU.SG:HG03875.SG
    5.11158488	GujaratiB:NA20882
    5.11634635	Brahmin.DG:S_Brahmin-1.DG
    5.20659198	GIH.SG:NA20891.SG
    5.29247579	GIH.SG:NA20852.SG
    5.31870285	PJL.SG:HG03649.SG
    5.65722547	Ignore_Balochi:HGDP00070
    5.69631460	PJL.SG:HG03488.SG
    5.71759565	Balochi_oEastAsian.SDG:HGDP00070.SDG
    5.79838771	PJL.SG:HG02657.SG
    5.79981034	GujaratiB:NA20873
    5.96528289	GIH.SG:NA20874.SG
    6.03520505	India_RoopkundA:I3352
    6.15843324	GIH.SG:NA20882.SG
    6.27084524	Punjabi:HG02491
    6.27442428	PJL.SG:HG03708.SG
    6.35709053	Brahmin.DG:S_Brahmin-2.DG
    6.61364499	PJL.SG:HG02651.SG
    6.71994792	GIH.SG:NA20886.SG
    6.72979197	GujaratiB:NA20885
    Target: West-South_Asian
    Distance: 42.4398% / 0.42439837 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    62.6 GIH.SG
    21.8 GujaratiB
    11.6 PJL.SG
    4.0 Pakistan_Loebanr_IA



    Compared to Population averages, I'd say they used the Gujarati sample as it has zero distance.

    Code:
    Distance to:	West-South_Asian
    0.00000000	Gujarati
    3.34445810	Kshatriya
    6.06248299	Brahmin_UP
    11.75765708	Dharkar
    12.46604588	Bangladeshi
    12.63574691	Kanjar
    15.49751270	Velamas
    16.37075747	Kurumba
    16.58625636	Uttar_Pradesh
    17.64096653	Punjabi_Jat
    18.00114719	Kol
    18.23315113	Sindhi
    18.56053879	Dusadh
    19.57158144	North_Kannadi
    21.45906102	Piramalai
    21.73899722	Chenchu
    22.21691698	Pathan
    24.52096246	Burusho
    25.35580013	Sakilli
    25.63984204	Chamar
    28.66906521	Kalash
    36.21419197	Afghan_Pashtun
    39.06671857	Balochi
    39.27220391	Austroasiatic_Ho
    39.35748468	Brahui

    Target: West-South_Asian

    Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    100.0 Gujarati

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    While I've got the data loaded... your South-South_Asian_(Kannada) is North_Kannadi with a zero distance.

    Code:
    Distance to:	South-South_Asian_(Kannada)
    0.00000000	North_Kannadi
    3.46550141	Kol
    4.70339239	Uttar_Pradesh
    4.76128134	Dusadh
    5.72731176	Piramalai
    6.46716321	Chenchu
    6.57004566	Chamar
    6.98560663	Kurumba
    7.07593810	Kanjar
    7.16321157	Sakilli
    8.38563653	Dharkar
    8.49818216	Velamas
    16.35042813	Bangladeshi
    17.25250127	Kshatriya
    19.57158144	Gujarati
    20.91977772	Brahmin_UP
    27.88613634	Austroasiatic_Ho
    36.83060005	Punjabi_Jat
    36.93602848	Sindhi
    40.86291228	Pathan
    42.53211257	Burusho
    47.95076120	Kalash
    54.62132093	Afghan_Pashtun
    57.46664511	Makrani
    57.86187778	Balochi

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    This thing is huge... but data dense.... I may later end up deleting this if the size becomes annoying to everyone.


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  9. #35
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    Once I eliminated all irrelevant populations this is what I got. This is why I don't bother with gedmatch it's absolutely obsolete, they have limited modern samples, and the general categories make absolutely no sense; East med? Red Sea? West Med? Atlantic? what do these equate to.? Plus the component populations have nothing to do with my ancestry. It's really off for me. The only thing that makes any sense is the distance segment and it's super limited. South Greek (which region in South Greece?), etc.

    Target: tonyc
    Distance: 153.6734% / 1.53673409
    60.6 South_Italian
    16.4 Eastcentral_European
    15.4 South_Balkanic
    7.6 South_Greek



    Distance to: tonyc
    3.88450769 South_Greek
    5.14816472 South_Balkanic
    8.28362240 Central_Italian
    9.82411319 South_Italian
    12.12738636 East_Balkanic
    12.28205602 North_Italian
    12.52286309 East_Mediterranean_(Crete)
    Last edited by TonyC; 08-11-2022 at 12:32 AM.
    88.0 Greek_Peloponnese + 12.0 Swiss_French Distance: 1.4582% / 0.01458192 | R2P

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
    Once I eliminated all irrelevant populations this is what I got. This is why I don't bother with gedmatch it's absolutely obsolete, they have limited modern samples, and the general categories make absolutely no sense; East med? Red Sea? West Med? Atlantic? what do these equate to.? Plus the component populations have nothing to do with my ancestry. It's really off for me. The only thing that makes any sense is the distance segment and it's super limited. South Greek (which region in South Greece?), etc.

    Target: tonyc
    Distance: 153.6734% / 1.53673409
    60.6 South_Italian
    16.4 Eastcentral_European
    15.4 South_Balkanic
    7.6 South_Greek



    Distance to: tonyc
    3.88450769 South_Greek
    5.14816472 South_Balkanic
    8.28362240 Central_Italian
    9.82411319 South_Italian
    12.12738636 East_Balkanic
    12.28205602 North_Italian
    12.52286309 East_Mediterranean_(Crete)
    It's not that bad as you imply. As I said in my OP, this won't give you precise ancestry but will model your likeliest populations, often neighboring ones to your real one. South Italian isn't super far off from South Greek, plus it sees other Greek-like regions as South Balkans and South Greek in you. It's also possible you are somewhat an outlier for a typical South Greek, so that's why you score different than an average South Greek.
    Last edited by Mythbuster General; 08-11-2022 at 12:41 AM.
    Modern Ancestry
    1. East Alpine 52%
    2. Pannonian 25.2%
    3. Northeast German 15.8%
    4. Volga-Uralic (Bashkir) 7%
    Ancient Ancestry
    1. Yamnaya 47.2%
    2. Anatolia 39.0%
    3. WHG 11.6%
    4. Han 2.2%

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  13. #37
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    United States of America Franco-Ontarian Denmark Switzerland France Norfolk
    Target: b
    Distance: 113.1974% / 1.13197376
    47.4 Scandinavian
    28.0 Southwest_French
    12.8 Central_Baltic
    6.6 Northeast_German
    5.0 Arabic
    0.2 East_Maghrebian


    Distance to: b
    7.81344994 Northwest_German
    8.07712201 West_Alpine
    9.36136208 East_Alpine
    10.54066412 Central_French
    10.67470843 Scandinavian
    10.96136397 British_Isles
    14.57317055 Northeast_German
    16.68435195 Pannonian
    17.51237277 Eastcentral_European
    19.13346022 East_Iberian
    20.38805533 West_Iberian
    20.67576359 North_Iberian
    21.08558038 South_Alpine
    23.06017996 West_Balkanic
    24.55600538 South_Iberian
    24.57234828 Polish
    25.73535312 Southwest_French
    27.06663259 Ukrainian
    27.75867432 Finnish
    27.91491716 North_Italian
    27.91937678 East_Balkanic
    29.23024290 North_Baltic
    31.58964704 Central_Russian
    31.92902285 South_Balkanic
    32.57137547 North_Russian

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    United States of America England Northern Ireland Scotland Normandie
    Target: Garimund
    Distance: 252.5816% / 2.52581648 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    45.2 British_Isles
    31.4 Scandinavian
    15.8 Southwest_French
    5.4 West_Iberian
    2.2 East_African_(Somali)

    Distance to: Garimund
    5.84660585 British_Isles
    7.57072652 Northwest_German
    9.97791060 Scandinavian
    12.06254948 Central_French
    12.41884053 West_Alpine
    16.47887739 East_Alpine
    19.32385572 East_Iberian
    20.46990230 North_Iberian
    21.14655055 Northeast_German
    21.19916744 West_Iberian
    23.02177882 Southwest_French
    24.42194095 South_Alpine
    24.47084592 Pannonian
    24.58554657 South_Iberian
    25.38251170 Eastcentral_European
    AncestryDNA(Aug 2022): England & NW Europe 45%, Scotland 22%, Ireland 19%, Wales 9%, Sweden & Denmark 2%, Germanic Europe 2%, Cameron, Congo 1%

    Living DNA:
    Great Britain and Ireland 100%
    N. Ireland and SW Scotland 26.2%, SC England 17.7%, Central England 17.3%, S Wales Border 8%, East Anglia 7.6%, NW Scotland 6%, Ireland 5.8%, NW England 5%, N Wales 3.2%, Aberdeenshire 1.8%, SE England 1.3%

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    Target: timberwolf
    Distance: 379.9408% / 3.79940832 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    87.6 British_Isles
    12.4 Southwest_French


    Target: timberwolf
    Distance: 379.0519% / 3.79051897
    81.0 British_Isles
    13.4 Southwest_French
    5.6 Scandinavian

    Distance to: timberwolf
    5.05762790 British_Isles
    8.72936997 Northwest_German
    9.92203104 Scandinavian
    15.24523860 Central_French
    15.65642999 West_Alpine
    19.91132341 East_Alpine
    21.72139498 East_Iberian
    22.87481803 North_Iberian
    23.22968790 Northeast_German
    23.89218491 Southwest_French
    24.26949320 West_Iberian
    27.01671890 South_Iberian
    27.62965798 South_Alpine
    27.80388642 Pannonian
    28.29194762 Eastcentral_European
    33.68369635 West_Balkanic
    33.95763390 North_Italian
    34.60810599 Polish
    35.81227024 Finnish
    37.55504627 East_Balkanic
    37.59826725 Ukrainian
    37.73570193 North_Baltic
    39.36184955 Central_Mediterranean_(Corsican)
    40.15051681 South_Balkanic
    40.21585757 Central_Italian

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  19. #40
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    Byzantine Empire Greece Cyprus Greek Macedonia Empire of Trebizond
    Target: Christos
    Distance: 244.5904% / 2.44590362
    39.8 South_Balkanic
    22.8 East_Mediterranean_(Cypriot)
    13.8 Central_Mediterranean_(Sardinian)
    10.4 Central_Baltic
    10.0 Jew_(Ashkenazi)
    3.2 Northeast_Turkish

    Distance to: Christos
    3.92056118 South_Greek
    6.44786786 South_Balkanic
    10.43092517 South_Italian
    10.49908567 Central_Italian
    11.29147909 East_Mediterranean_(Crete)
    13.03682477 Jew_(Ashkenazi)
    13.95026523 East_Balkanic
    14.01928672 Central_Mediterranean_(Corsican)
    14.17529188 Northwest_Turkish
    14.78461024 North_Italian
    18.45364734 Jew_(Sephardi)
    19.69058150 South_Alpine
    20.73829308 West_Balkanic
    24.53008153 East_Mediterranean_(Cypriot)
    26.45960695 Central_Maghrebian
    26.72494902 South_Turkish
    27.46067188 West_Iberian
    27.87074093 North_Levantine_(Alawite)
    27.98321819 North_Maghrebian
    28.43061554 South_Iberian
    29.50323203 Pannonian
    29.61388357 North_Levantine_(Syrian)
    29.73015641 East_Iberian
    30.40032401 West_Maghrebian
    30.68019231 East_Alpine

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