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    Hate to be a stickler but your Bosnia map looks like Banovina Hrvatska.
    You labeled Bosnian Krajina and Posavina as Croatian even though Croatians are not in the majority there, it's Bosniaks and Serbs. And you labeled the western part of Bosnia Bugojno/Kupres/Drvar area as Serbs and they're not the majority there, they are in Banja Luka and all through eastern Bosnia which you labeled as Bosnian?
    Labels are not actually at the exact places which map software uses because their position controls the software, not me.
    It is not possible to place every label at the exact spot without overlapping.
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    Kashubian compared to Slovincian when using my 10,000 Years Ago calculator - there is a rather big 5% difference in ENF admixture:

    Target: Polish_Kashubian
    Distance: 3.3087% / 0.03308736
    43.0 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
    27.2 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
    13.6 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA
    12.6 Central_Europe_10KYA
    3.6 Pontic_Caspian_Steppe(west)_10KYA

    Target: Slovincian
    Distance: 3.3685% / 0.03368523
    42.8 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
    31.8 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
    19.0 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA
    6.4 Central_Europe_10KYA

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    And Sorb Niederlausitz for comparison:

    Target: Sorb_Niederlausitz
    Distance: 1.7756% / 0.01775596
    40.8 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
    34.0 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
    20.4 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA
    4.8 Central_Europe_10KYA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Kashubian compared to Slovincian when using my 10,000 Years Ago calculator - there is a rather big 5% difference in ENF admixture:

    Target: Polish_Kashubian
    Distance: 3.3087% / 0.03308736
    43.0 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
    27.2 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
    13.6 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA
    12.6 Central_Europe_10KYA
    3.6 Pontic_Caspian_Steppe(west)_10KYA

    Target: Slovincian
    Distance: 3.3685% / 0.03368523
    42.8 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
    31.8 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
    19.0 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA
    6.4 Central_Europe_10KYA

    =====

    And Sorb Niederlausitz for comparison:

    Target: Sorb_Niederlausitz
    Distance: 1.7756% / 0.01775596
    40.8 Steppe_Proto_Yamnaya
    34.0 Anatolia_Greece_10KYA
    20.4 South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA
    4.8 Central_Europe_10KYA
    Interesting. So, the Slovincian is similar to the Sorb. Not surprising. The original land of Kashubia was likely populated by many Sorbs or Sorb like people. Maybe as Kashubia shifted east over the centuries the population combined with a slightly different group?

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    This article came across my computer tonight,
    https://www.academia.edu/38206032/A_...ard=view-paper

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonardo View Post
    This article came across my computer tonight,
    https://www.academia.edu/38206032/A_...ard=view-paper
    Here is a map showing the progress of Germanisation in this region (dates when Slavic sermons were abolished in each parish):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashub...cal_population



    For comparison, Kashubians (including Slovincians) around year 1660:

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    Slavic-speaking areas as of year 1892 according to Stefan Ramułt:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Ramu%C5%82t







    For comparison, number of inhabitants in year 1925:

    http://kreis-stolp.de/

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