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    Q-M25 has 117 valid private SNPs, according to YFull

    Kit 53601 is a Q-M25 of Irish patrilineage who submitted his Big Y results to YFull for evaluation. The count: 117 best-and acceptable-quality private SNPs (not including SNPs previously named). According to Michał's rule of thumb (150 years per YFull-validated SNP), that indicates an age of divergence (from the "usual" Q-M25) of 17,500 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    Kit 53601 is a Q-M25 of Irish patrilineage who submitted his Big Y results to YFull for evaluation. The count: 117 best-and acceptable-quality private SNPs (not including SNPs previously named). According to Michał's rule of thumb (150 years per YFull-validated SNP), that indicates an age of divergence (from the "usual" Q-M25) of 17,500 years.
    Does this individual have Viking ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    Does this individual have Viking ancestry?
    There is now a second individual on this tree branch, although the second man's BAM file analysis has just begun. One man's patrilineage is from Northern Ireland, the other from Sweden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    There is now a second individual on this tree branch, although the second man's BAM file analysis has just begun. One man's patrilineage is from Northern Ireland, the other from Sweden.
    Is there any comparison data between these individuals and central asian m25? Doesnt 17500 years seem a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    Is there any comparison data between these individuals and central asian m25? Doesnt 17500 years seem a lot
    17,500 years is indeed a long time--that's why this is so notable. Comparison data--shared vs. unshared SNPs--are precisely what was used to construct the Q-M25 haplotree. The mysterious Q-YP1669 diverged from the more common Central Asian (and Eastern European) Q-L712 a long time ago.

    YFull has removed all dates from large portions of its haplotree. Let's hope that this is temporary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    There is now a second individual on this tree branch, although the second man's BAM file analysis has just begun. One man's patrilineage is from Northern Ireland, the other from Sweden.
    YFull's latest Q-M25 haplotree reflects the complete analysis. The rare European Q-YP1669 clade diverged from the rest of Q-M25 almost 17,000 years ago. The two European patrilineages themselves have a TMRCA of 13,600 ybp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    YFull's latest Q-M25 haplotree reflects the complete analysis. The rare European Q-YP1669 clade diverged from the rest of Q-M25 almost 17,000 years ago. The two European patrilineages themselves have a TMRCA of 13,600 ybp.
    A pity that there is not much "Asian" data on Yfull, there are some Arabs on the Q project which would be interesting for Qm25 .
    Ordered a L712 yesterday, but what I see is almost all M25 score positive for this SNP, is there also a SNP that differs between "European" and "Asian" individuals?
    Seems to me that L713, L715 do not succeed in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    A pity that there is not much "Asian" data on Yfull, there are some Arabs on the Q project which would be interesting for Qm25 .
    Yes, we need more Asian Q-M25 to take the Big Y test.

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    Got my L715 today, returned in a week!!. Seems I am l712*.

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