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    G-S10458 in North Africa

    My father was assigned G-S10458 by 23andme. There doesn't seem to be much info on how it got to North Africa. Anyone here know much about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZWQ View Post
    My father was assigned G-S10458 by 23andme. There doesn't seem to be much info on how it got to North Africa. Anyone here know much about it?
    Where in North Africa is he from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peloponnesian View Post
    Where in North Africa is he from?
    Algeria.

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    your father needs to test further for his subclade. 23 and me only gives our basic assignments for haplogroups

    Clearly in Algeria the women were much more open then Morocco considering the diverse parental haplogroups, I knew a Kabyle who had a ydna that was connected to Indians

    You have haplogroups that don’t even make sense in Algeria, at least in Morocco the majority are underneath E and the J assignments have an explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZWQ View Post
    Algeria.
    How common is it for North Africans to get haplogroups with a likely Euro origin? For example R-P312 or I2. Are they old splits or more likely of recent colonial origin?

    You should also run your dad's autosomal data through a tool like Cladefinder in order to check if there's the possibility of a misread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    your father needs to test further for his subclade. 23 and me only gives our basic assignments for haplogroups

    Clearly in Algeria the women were much more open then Morocco considering the diverse parental haplogroups, I knew a Kabyle who had a ydna that was connected to Indians

    You have haplogroups that don’t even make sense in Algeria, at least in Morocco the majority are underneath E and the J assignments have an explanation.
    This type of sexist nonsense is not tolerated here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXD View Post
    This type of sexist nonsense is not tolerated here.
    It’s not sexiest but factual. I don’t know where you got the idea that me saying Algeria has more diverse parental haplogroups is sexiest. If it was the other way around is it still sexist?

    Clearly in algeria the women were more open to marrying foreigners than Morocco back then and their ain’t anything wrong with that.

    Clearly you shout sexiest about anything, accusing people before knowing what they mean is not exactly smart my friend.

    That said in modern times all North African countries are open to marrying outside there country, with social media connections outside Morocco, Algeria or Tunisia are a lot more easier now


    Don’t mistaken emotion for genetics, if you want to discuss your personal feelings or politics you have forums for that
    Last edited by Gentica277282; 10-02-2022 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peloponnesian View Post
    How common is it for North Africans to get haplogroups with a likely Euro origin? For example R-P312 or I2. Are they old splits or more likely of recent colonial origin?

    You should also run your dad's autosomal data through a tool like Cladefinder in order to check if there's the possibility of a misread.

    Cladefinder gave me this:

    Most specific position on the YFull YTree is G-Z24311

    G-Z24311 S11858(?) Y19938(?) Y19944(?) Y19945/Z40136($) Z24311+ Z40134(?)
    ┗━G-Z24316 FGC31901(?) Y19942(?) Y19948($) Y19949($) Z24316(?) Z24319($) Z24321(?) Z24324($) Z24325($)

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXD View Post
    This type of sexist nonsense is not tolerated here.
    That is probably in your mind.His comment has nothing to do with sexism for gods shake!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    It’s not sexiest but factual. I don’t know where you got the idea that me saying Algeria has more diverse parental haplogroups is sexiest. If it was the other way around is it still sexist?

    Clearly in algeria the women were more open to marrying foreigners than Morocco back then and their ain’t anything wrong with that.
    Isn't there also the possibility that Algerian men were just more diverse in terms of haplogroups than Moroccans? Also, I'm not sure how much control women had in who they married back in the day.. Even in the EU arranged marriages used to be common a few decades back in rural areas.

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