Y-DNA in South Asia

[parasar]

Y2568 looks to be pretty widespread.
...
I would not be surprised if the L657+ Jews turn out to be Y2568+ too.

This one clearly is:
https://www.theytree.com/sample/0e6e...a203b526e.html
Country
Iraq
Native place
Bagdad
Ethnicgroup
Iraqi-Jews

[subzero85]

Do you have deeper resolution for the Q-L275 sample here?

Nope, unfortunately.

[pegasus]

Yea we are adventurous folks.

There is a new study for Central Asian samples a good chunk are L657 , Y928

https://www.mdpi.com/genes/genes-13-...01776-g003.png

[Kaazi]

That is the case for much of eastern India too - L is present but sporadic. Considering the strong presence of L in Swat valley - quite surprising.

"The near absence of L lineages within the IE speakers from Bihar (0%), Orissa (0%), and West Bengal (1.5%) ..."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1347984/

Seems so but Chhetris also brought the L1a2-M357 around current proportions of 7-8% (2 out of 28). Another Thakuri Kshatriya (Singh) also had it. So, the L1a2-M357 proportions is likely to increase even more in the Himalayas if more Chhetris/Thakuris are tested.

 

 

[parasar]

There is a new study for Central Asian samples a good chunk are L657 , Y928

https://www.mdpi.com/genes/genes-13-...01776-g003.png

Y928 is a Y6 line.
The three sampes include two Hazara and one Tajik.
Pretty close distrubution to Y7 (which looks to be a liitle more widespread). Y6 too is pan South Asian (Bangal, Punjab, Brahui, Baloch, Bihar, Nepal, Lanka, Andhra, etc.), plus Arabia (USE, Saudi, Yemen) , Iraq, Iran, and Thailand.
https://www.theytree.com/?snp=y928

[parasar]

Seems so but Chhetris also brought the L1a2-M357 around current proportions of 7-8% (2 out of 28). Another Thakuri Kshatriya (Singh) also had it. So, the L1a2-M357 proportions is likely to increase even more in the Himalayas if more Chhetris/Thakuris are tested.

 

 

We would need to check their downstream SNPs to be sure.
But I too think the Chhetti may be more Rajput and Jat like.
The Rajput, Chechen, Jat, Iyer, Pathan, M357 seem related (based on their STRs).

On the other hand we have very deep basal lines too in South Asia. Eg. in Andhra HG03790 (shared with a Kazakh sample), Tamil Nadu, etc.
Also Arlus' (Chattisgarh) line splits very early. YF086028 https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-Y46452*/

[Kapisa]

Yes, thanks.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...?download=true
L1a L1a2 H14

Thats the oldest one so far in the region isn't it? What is the dating for Areni-C?

[Kaazi]

We would need to check their downstream SNPs to be sure.
But I too think the Chhetti may be more Rajput and Jat like.
The Rajput, Chechen, Jat, Iyer, Pathan, M357 seem related (based on their STRs).

On the other hand we have very deep basal lines too in South Asia. Eg. in Andhra HG03790 (shared with a Kazakh sample), Tamil Nadu, etc.
Also Arlus' (Chattisgarh) line splits very early. YF086028 https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-Y46452*/

One of the L-M357 guy's a Dangi, an Ekthariya Chhetri (single clan); they claim Rajput origin and patrilineal difference from the mainstream Bahuthariyas (multiple clan); Chauhan and Dikshit are also Ekthariyas. This Dangi clan is also shared with Pahadi Rajputs from Indian Himalayas. I thnk the Chhetri L-M357 came from the West Himalayas imo.


Sarla Dangi is a prominent Pahadi singer from Shimla, Himachal. One of her hit song. Pahadis in this video also look like us in terms of phenotypes.

 

[tipirneni]

Andhra Pradesh

Kamma look heavy H clades

Major localized clades like H3-Z586[1-8] connecting to the ancient Anatolia forming close to 10%

H-M2914 4%
H-Z5873, H-Z5875, H-Z5877, H-Z5883, H-Z5885, H-Z4507 2%
H-Z5890 4%
H-Z13871 1%
H-Z14258 1%
H-M52 3%


L1c-M357 BY198125
L1a-M27 Z5929

R1a-L657 Y924
R1a-L657 R-Y6/5 Y28659
R2a-L295 Y1300
R2a-L295 V2947
R2a-L295 Y1328

[Bengali]

For GBR , for Bengali you have to add 4061/3977, the more IVC (3785/4025) is too Zagros rich for them alone.

sample::Aba scaled
distance: 1.8462
Telugu_GBR: 78.5
Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA: 8.5
Chokhopani_2700BP: 7.5
Gonur1_BA: 4
Kinh_Vietnam: 1.5


sample: :Aba scaled
distance: 1.9153
Telugu_GBR: 78
IndoAryan_ghost: 13
Chokhopani_2700BP: 6.5
Kinh_Vietnam: 2.5

How did you get this? I tried running with these coordinates:
Telugu_GBR,0.0425185,-0.080325,-0.1707871,0.1127069,-0.0775331,0.0641717,-0.0007656,0.0132203,0.0417492,0.0271473,-0.0039811,0.0015565,-0.0004844,0.0032718,-0.0063745,-0.0042814,0.0040671,0.000282,-9.72e-05,0.0017952,0.003196,-0.0006662,-0.00033,0.0008201,-0.0030477
Kinh_Vietnam,0.017785,-0.4347735,-0.0384192,-0.057817,0.1141366,0.056371,-0.0013806,-0.0092881,-0.0165409,-0.0097496,0.0022124,-0.0012176,0.0021555,-0.0063478,-0.0015436,-0.0001989,0.000212,0.0008235,-0.0041323,-0.0082854,0.0089529,0.0064918,0.0120935,9.02e-05,0.003353
IndoAryan_ghost,0.118193471513985,0.09100574089942 5,-0.0034991396500859994,0.06282065038460098,-0.03814214618578499,0.031170950216238,0.0059213227 412010004,0.00011332665533399996,-0.03141273019206,-0.03846757281990899,-0.009436955722971,-0.007704135896253,0.007007519299248,-0.021374461195886995,0.020955494571116996,0.021997 001133633,-0.0051021161564549986,-0.00022746331058699998,-0.00040837995916199993,-0.001574553175878,-0.005934452739888,-0.0017091431624190001,0.007894845877182,0.00577273 2756059999,0.006476006019066
NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP,0.012521,-0.410274,-0.011691,-0.031331,0.017542,0.011435,0.00658,0.011999,0.0100 22,0.021139,-0.081194,-0.006444,0.010109,-0.004679,-0.011401,0,0.011213,-0.001267,-0.009302,0.009379,0.004991,0.029306,0.004314,0.003 615,0.031734


I got:
Target: Ammu_scaled
Distance: 2.0950% / 0.02095008 | R4P
90.0 Telugu_GBR
6.0 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP
4.0 Kinh_Vietnam


Target: Aba_scaled
Distance: 3.0103% / 0.03010267 | R4P
90.4 Telugu_GBR
7.8 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP
1.8 Kinh_Vietnam


Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 2.9479% / 0.02947852 | R4P
90.0 Telugu_GBR
6.4 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP
3.6 Kinh_Vietnam

Not sure what I'm doing wrong here...