Y-DNA in South Asia

[parasar]

How do you think that the L56 branch went to Lanka? That's fascinating! My guess would be the Indo-Iranian migrations...

We have to remember that perhaps by 12000ybp L56 was likely already in Chile (https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nyti...ogy-chile.html).
The 12600 ybp Anzick-1 sample is a L56 descendant on the 12600 old FGC47595 branch [I use Ust Ishim to Anzick-1 block of SNPs for dating SNPs].
https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-FGC47595*/
So it possible that upstream branches reached South Asia quite early too.

[Yamdut]

And your question is?

No question , just saw only 2 janjua results, both with same mt-dna.

[parasar]

Tamil Nadu macro level Y lines - Arunkumar et al. had a large sample-set of 1680

[Kapisa]

No question , just saw only 2 janjua results, both with same mt-dna.

Can you share that result, u can PM me. My dad is U9b1. I am R30b. I am sure there is rather more mitochondrial diversity than Y-Chromosomal, which is pretty much the norm.

[sudodudo]

dont have breakdown on those arain ydna data


but i saw another one shared somehwere and saved it, it was collected by someone from public and private data and compiled a list of ydna. it was shared privately so source is trust me bro


Arain Y haplogroups

n = 16

7 R1a (43.75%)
3 R2 (18.75%)
2 G (12.5%)
2 L (1 L1a1, 1 L3) (12.5%)
1 J2 (6.25%)
1 H (6.25%)

Awan Y-Haplogroups

n = 17

8 R1a (47.05%)
5 J2 (29.4%)
2 R2 (11.7%)
1 R1b (5.9%)
1 L (5.9%)


Punjabi Muslim Jatt (Majha)

N = 27

12 R1a (44.4%)
7 L (25.9%)
5 J2 (18.5%)
2 R2 (7.4%)
1 H (3.7%)


Punjabi Muslim Jatt (Bar)

N = 5

3 R1a
1 J2
1 G

Pahari Muslim Jatt

N = 8

5 R1a
2 R2
1 H

Total paksitani muslim jatts

N = 40

20 R1A (50%)
4 R2 (10%)
6 J2 (15 %)
7 L (17.5%)
2 H (5%)
1 G ...


Jatt sikh Panjabi Y-Haplogroups

n: 440

38.64% R1a
6.82% R2
10.23% J2
34.55% L
5.45% H
1.36% Q
2.95% Others

Jaat Haryana/Rajasthan/West UP Y-Haplogroups

N = 13

3 R1a (23%)
6 L (46%)
2 Q (15.3%)
1 J2 (7.7%)
1 R2 (7.7%)

[Kapisa]

Why do some South Indians have z2123 ? It is being postulated that R1a-L657 population are comparatively heavier steppe than R1a-z2123 because R1a-z2123 took an Iranian route. Not very sure about credibility of this theory.

No because both these sub-clades are present among both present day so called "high steppe" and "low steppe" populations. Present day distribution of haplogroups has been through various post Iron Age migrations (founder effect), and famines/earth quakes etc, creating population bottle necks. Oldest cities in south Asia: Peshawar, Textila, Delhi, Kannauj, Patna etc have been abandoned/destroyed and rebuilt many times over centuries, in some cases since Bronze Age, hence the famous syaing: 7 cities of Delhi.

[MonkeyDLuffy]

What Haplogroups are R-CTS1843 and R-P25_1? I have two kits with these paternal haplogroups.

[parasar]

What Haplogroups are R-CTS1843 and R-P25_1? I have two kits with these paternal haplogroups.

CTS1843 is the Yamna/Afasenevo/Armenia related R1b line.
We do not normally see P25* as that is a very basal R1b line - but we do have a few of those in South Asia.

[MonkeyDLuffy]

CTS1843 is the Yamna/Afasenevo/Armenia related R1b line.
We do not normally see P25* as that is a very basal R1b line - but we do have a few of those in South Asia.

I have 1 tarkhan kit with P25, and another with cts1843. Probably just steppe lines as you stated

[parasar]

I have 1 tarkhan kit with P25, and another with cts1843. Probably just steppe lines as you stated

If the sample is truly P25 (P25 is below M343) with main down stream SNPs negative then most likely not steppe but likely related to bhu-0984 (R1b-PH155) or Joshi (R1b-FTB1).
I recall some P25* from Bali too.

R1b-M343
.R-L754
.R-BY14355
..R-PH155 [bhu-0984 Bhutan, Tarim, ERS5240184-Singapore]
..R-FTB1 [Joshi] https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-FTB14/story