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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengali View Post
    How do you think that the L56 branch went to Lanka? That's fascinating! My guess would be the Indo-Iranian migrations...
    We have to remember that perhaps by 12000ybp L56 was likely already in Chile (https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nyti...ogy-chile.html).
    The 12600 ybp Anzick-1 sample is a L56 descendant on the 12600 old FGC47595 branch [I use Ust Ishim to Anzick-1 block of SNPs for dating SNPs].
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-FGC47595*/
    So it possible that upstream branches reached South Asia quite early too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    And your question is?
    No question , just saw only 2 janjua results, both with same mt-dna.
    Last edited by Yamdut; 10-10-2022 at 06:46 PM.

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    Tamil Nadu macro level Y lines - Arunkumar et al. had a large sample-set of 1680

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamdut View Post
    No question , just saw only 2 janjua results, both with same mt-dna.
    Can you share that result, u can PM me. My dad is U9b1. I am R30b. I am sure there is rather more mitochondrial diversity than Y-Chromosomal, which is pretty much the norm.
    Last edited by Kapisa; 10-10-2022 at 08:39 PM.
    Sample: Kapisa ► Kapisa scaled
    Fit: 1.8505
    Results: CG IVCp 42
    Bustan BA 31
    Mys MLBA 17
    Bustan BA o1 7
    Chokhopani 2700BP 3

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    dont have breakdown on those arain ydna data


    but i saw another one shared somehwere and saved it, it was collected by someone from public and private data and compiled a list of ydna. it was shared privately so source is trust me bro


    Arain Y haplogroups

    n = 16

    7 R1a (43.75%)
    3 R2 (18.75%)
    2 G (12.5%)
    2 L (1 L1a1, 1 L3) (12.5%)
    1 J2 (6.25%)
    1 H (6.25%)

    Awan Y-Haplogroups

    n = 17

    8 R1a (47.05%)
    5 J2 (29.4%)
    2 R2 (11.7%)
    1 R1b (5.9%)
    1 L (5.9%)


    Punjabi Muslim Jatt (Majha)

    N = 27

    12 R1a (44.4%)
    7 L (25.9%)
    5 J2 (18.5%)
    2 R2 (7.4%)
    1 H (3.7%)


    Punjabi Muslim Jatt (Bar)

    N = 5

    3 R1a
    1 J2
    1 G

    Pahari Muslim Jatt

    N = 8

    5 R1a
    2 R2
    1 H

    Total paksitani muslim jatts

    N = 40

    20 R1A (50%)
    4 R2 (10%)
    6 J2 (15 %)
    7 L (17.5%)
    2 H (5%)
    1 G ...


    Jatt sikh Panjabi Y-Haplogroups

    n: 440

    38.64% R1a
    6.82% R2
    10.23% J2
    34.55% L
    5.45% H
    1.36% Q
    2.95% Others

    Jaat Haryana/Rajasthan/West UP Y-Haplogroups

    N = 13

    3 R1a (23%)
    6 L (46%)
    2 Q (15.3%)
    1 J2 (7.7%)
    1 R2 (7.7%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamdut View Post
    Why do some South Indians have z2123 ? It is being postulated that R1a-L657 population are comparatively heavier steppe than R1a-z2123 because R1a-z2123 took an Iranian route. Not very sure about credibility of this theory.
    No because both these sub-clades are present among both present day so called "high steppe" and "low steppe" populations. Present day distribution of haplogroups has been through various post Iron Age migrations (founder effect), and famines/earth quakes etc, creating population bottle necks. Oldest cities in south Asia: Peshawar, Textila, Delhi, Kannauj, Patna etc have been abandoned/destroyed and rebuilt many times over centuries, in some cases since Bronze Age, hence the famous syaing: 7 cities of Delhi.
    Sample: Kapisa ► Kapisa scaled
    Fit: 1.8505
    Results: CG IVCp 42
    Bustan BA 31
    Mys MLBA 17
    Bustan BA o1 7
    Chokhopani 2700BP 3

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    What Haplogroups are R-CTS1843 and R-P25_1? I have two kits with these paternal haplogroups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    What Haplogroups are R-CTS1843 and R-P25_1? I have two kits with these paternal haplogroups.
    CTS1843 is the Yamna/Afasenevo/Armenia related R1b line.
    We do not normally see P25* as that is a very basal R1b line - but we do have a few of those in South Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    CTS1843 is the Yamna/Afasenevo/Armenia related R1b line.
    We do not normally see P25* as that is a very basal R1b line - but we do have a few of those in South Asia.
    I have 1 tarkhan kit with P25, and another with cts1843. Probably just steppe lines as you stated

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    I have 1 tarkhan kit with P25, and another with cts1843. Probably just steppe lines as you stated
    If the sample is truly P25 (P25 is below M343) with main down stream SNPs negative then most likely not steppe but likely related to bhu-0984 (R1b-PH155) or Joshi (R1b-FTB1).
    I recall some P25* from Bali too.

    R1b-M343
    .R-L754
    .R-BY14355
    ..R-PH155 [bhu-0984 Bhutan, Tarim, ERS5240184-Singapore]
    ..R-FTB1 [Joshi] https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-FTB14/story

    Last edited by parasar; 10-12-2022 at 12:45 AM. Reason: link added

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