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    Unofficial results from the Arabian Peninsula in the Bronze and Iron Ages

    According to the news published on Twitter
    Based on a study that will be released in the future by Harvard.
    A ancient sample from the Bronze Age in Khaybar (saudi arabia) >> Y haplogroup T
    And a ancient sample from Yemen from the Iron Age has >>Y haplogroup J1
    And two ancient samples from Socotra Island in Yemen >> Y haplogroup J1 and J2

    53025619-10410873-The_tombs_span_large_distances_in_the_northwestern_Saudi_Arabian-a-9_164243499.jpg

    Ancient report

    Vast 4,500-year-old highway network of 'funerary avenues' stretching for thousands of miles and lined with Bronze Age tombs is uncovered in Saudi Arabia

    53024115-10410873-A_dense_funerary_avenue_with_wedge_tailed_pendants_and_infilled_-a-1_164243405.jpg
    53024109-10410873-The_tombs_as_described_as_pendant_because_they_resemble_circular-a-3_164243405.jpg
    53024107-10410873-Small_piles_of_stone_arranged_in_elaborate_shapes_mark_the_spot_-a-2_164243405.jpg
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    Good news
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    Neat! Wonder what the subclade of that J2 is. I feel it's likely J-M205. The typical stuff. Rather odd seeing it in Socotra, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freb View Post
    Neat! Wonder what the subclade of that J2 is. I feel it's likely J-M205. The typical stuff. Rather odd seeing it in Socotra, though.
    16 out of 19 Soqotris on YFull are J2, all of which are J-Y45546 which is a subclade of J-M205. This branch also includes 25 out of 30 J2 Dhofaris, 2 out of 2 J2 Mahras and 11 out of 26 J2 Hadhramis with another 12 in sister branch J-Y128176.

    Anyway this study along with the Qatar study should give us a pretty good idea of the genetics of ancient Arabia soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudeTheDud View Post
    16 out of 19 Soqotris on YFull are J2, all of which are J-Y45546 which is a subclade of J-M205. This branch also includes 25 out of 30 J2 Dhofaris, 2 out of 2 J2 Mahras and 11 out of 26 J2 Hadhramis with another 12 in sister branch J-Y128176.

    Anyway this study along with the Qatar study should give us a pretty good idea of the genetics of ancient Arabia soon enough.
    Interesting, that's news to me.

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    What day are the samples released ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudeTheDud View Post
    16 out of 19 Soqotris on YFull are J2, all of which are J-Y45546 which is a subclade of J-M205. This branch also includes 25 out of 30 J2 Dhofaris, 2 out of 2 J2 Mahras and 11 out of 26 J2 Hadhramis with another 12 in sister branch J-Y128176.

    Anyway this study along with the Qatar study should give us a pretty good idea of the genetics of ancient Arabia soon enough.
    Qatar study? When is that getting released
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    10.0 COG_Kindoki_230BP

    Itrane model

    Target: _Arab
    Distance: 1.2836% / 0.01283568
    60.0 Berber
    11.2 Sub_saharan
    10.8 Levantine
    10.4 Arabian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    Qatar study? When is that getting released
    See here: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....-ONLY)/page577

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudeTheDud View Post
    16 out of 19 Soqotris on YFull are J2, all of which are J-Y45546 which is a subclade of J-M205. This branch also includes 25 out of 30 J2 Dhofaris, 2 out of 2 J2 Mahras and 11 out of 26 J2 Hadhramis with another 12 in sister branch J-Y128176.

    Anyway this study along with the Qatar study should give us a pretty good idea of the genetics of ancient Arabia soon enough.
    There are a few Soqotri J-P58 samples as well, I know this cause a Somali from a clan of Mahra origin falls under the same medieval subclade as them.I think the Soqotris are predominantly J-P58
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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    There are a few Soqotri J-P58 samples as well, I know this cause a Somali from a clan of Mahra origin falls under the same medieval subclade as them.I think the Soqotris are predominantly J-P58
    Looks like they have a Neolithic arab sample if I'm reading it correctly should be interesting
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    Itrane model

    Target: _Arab
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    60.0 Berber
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